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Post by ledbully on Mar 22, 2024 13:01:18 GMT
Think we will need under soil heating pitch will not see any sun in winter
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2024 20:54:44 GMT
Surely the view from Waitrose will be of 3/4 storey flats? A single tier tin can the width of the Len Weston will probably be the away end. What do I win?
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Post by White Lightning on Mar 22, 2024 21:12:47 GMT
Surely the view from Waitrose will be of 3/4 storey flats? A single tier tin can the width of the Len Weston will probably be the away end. What do I win? I did drawings and showed my workings and I won nothing. Looks like they are squeezing in facilities in the corners which will be grim/congested. They are creating some much needed external space on the Edgar Street corner. The devil will be in the detail.
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Post by sevenoaksbull on Mar 22, 2024 21:56:35 GMT
I did drawings and showed my workings and I won nothing. Looks like they are squeezing in facilities in the corners which will be grim/congested. They are creating some much needed external space on the Edgar Street corner. The devil will be in the detail. The renderings shown on Bulls News look like nothing more than impressionitic illustrations and note no images of the pitch side elevation. They are basically not much better than a CAD student’s homework assignment. As Lightning says, the devil is in the detail and for that we need some 1:100 scale plans with the spec set out. We won’t see that until they go for Planning.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2024 7:05:50 GMT
I did drawings and showed my workings and I won nothing. Looks like they are squeezing in facilities in the corners which will be grim/congested. They are creating some much needed external space on the Edgar Street corner. The devil will be in the detail. The renderings shown on Bulls News look like nothing more than impressionitic illustrations and note no images of the pitch side elevation. They are basically not much better than a CAD student’s homework assignment. As Lightning says, the devil is in the detail and for that we need some 1:100 scale plans with the spec set out. We won’t see that until they go for Planning. Both the illustration and the idea itself look shit to me. These style of cheap, shit apartment blocks are going to look dated very quickly, IMO. In twenty years' time we'll all wonder why we let them fill city centres with these tragic generic student blocks.
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Post by White Lightning on Mar 23, 2024 7:32:14 GMT
The renderings shown on Bulls News look like nothing more than impressionitic illustrations and note no images of the pitch side elevation. They are basically not much better than a CAD student’s homework assignment. As Lightning says, the devil is in the detail and for that we need some 1:100 scale plans with the spec set out. We won’t see that until they go for Planning. Both the illustration and the idea itself look shit to me. These style of cheap, shit apartment blocks are going to look dated very quickly, IMO. In twenty years' time we'll all wonder why we let them fill city centres with these tragic generic student blocks. You say that but the Premier Inn is an architectural masterpiece. At least they tend to use brick cladding which ages better.
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Post by Monkey Tennis on Mar 23, 2024 7:48:00 GMT
The renderings shown on Bulls News look like nothing more than impressionitic illustrations and note no images of the pitch side elevation. They are basically not much better than a CAD student’s homework assignment. As Lightning says, the devil is in the detail and for that we need some 1:100 scale plans with the spec set out. We won’t see that until they go for Planning. Both the illustration and the idea itself look shit to me. These style of cheap, shit apartment blocks are going to look dated very quickly, IMO. In twenty years' time we'll all wonder why we let them fill city centres with these tragic generic student blocks. To add to the shitiness of the illustration, there are no little people wandering about. What's the point of an illustration of this type if you don't get little people wandering around? It's just lazy, in my opinion.
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Post by White Lightning on Mar 23, 2024 7:53:19 GMT
Both the illustration and the idea itself look shit to me. These style of cheap, shit apartment blocks are going to look dated very quickly, IMO. In twenty years' time we'll all wonder why we let them fill city centres with these tragic generic student blocks. To add to the shitiness of the illustration, there are no little people wandering about. What's the point of an illustration of this type if you don't get little people wandering around? It's just lazy, in my opinion. Or trees, they always add a few trees to sell the dream. That big open space beyond the development is crying out for some trees.
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Post by Andrew on Mar 23, 2024 8:08:27 GMT
Imagine if HUFC still existed with a 200 year lease.
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Post by White Lightning on Mar 23, 2024 8:13:38 GMT
Imagine if HUFC still existed with a 200 year lease. And deliveries to all the stuff that is going to be put in there. Not sure how they are going to get round that?
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Post by tigerfeet on Mar 23, 2024 10:18:29 GMT
Imagine if HUFC still existed with a 200 year lease. It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion, too
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Post by amiabull on Mar 23, 2024 11:35:11 GMT
Those computer generated pictures look horrendous. As I suspected from the wording of the council’s earlier statements, consideration of the football clubs requirements takes a very poor second place to what they have in mind for students. The new stand is totally dominated by the student building. For decades that patch of land has been dedicated to the support of football. That should continue to be their major consideration. At the very least, the new stand needs to be as high as the main stand if the ground is to look anything like a properly integrated whole (subject of course to future development of the Meadow end). I hope the board will take a very firm stand on this with the council. Tell them to go back to the drawing board and come up with something that better reflects the importance of the football club to this city! How many voters will be supporters of the football club, how many transient students?
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Post by francobull on Mar 23, 2024 12:13:22 GMT
Spot on. But I fear that we will get little cosideration from the council.
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Post by Incognito on Mar 23, 2024 12:31:37 GMT
The Council should remember why the land was originally donated to the City and who it was that settled the lease to the Richardsons.
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Post by White Lightning on Mar 23, 2024 12:41:20 GMT
Those computer generated pictures look horrendous. As I suspected from the wording of the council’s earlier statements, consideration of the football clubs requirements takes a very poor second place to what they have in mind for students. The new stand is totally dominated by the student building. For decades that patch of land has been dedicated to the support of football. That should continue to be their major consideration. At the very least, the new stand needs to be as high as the main stand if the ground is to look anything like a properly integrated whole (subject of course to future development of the Meadow end). I hope the board will take a very firm stand on this with the council. Tell them to go back to the drawing board and come up with something that better reflects the importance of the football club to this city! How many voters will be supporters of the football club, how many transient students? I think the width of the spectator element looks reasonably generous. I don't think capacity won't be an issue, it will be the facilities. Whatever facilities go up that end will have to serve blocks CDEF, the new stand and the existing away terrace. So half the ground.
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Post by greekgod on Mar 23, 2024 13:13:12 GMT
The Council should remember why the land was originally donated to the City and who it was that settled the lease to the Richardsons. You have a strange perception of the morals and honour of the council.
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Post by sortitoutwebbbull on Mar 23, 2024 13:30:30 GMT
The Council should remember why the land was originally donated to the City and who it was that settled the lease to the Richardsons. You have a strange perception of the morals and honour of the council. "Negotiations were successful and in mid-1931 the Council paid £3,000 for the ground, after the Hereford Athletic Ground Ltd had passed a motion to sell the land at a price which would yield at least par value to the shareholders, on condition that the ground should be reserved for sport" Page 15 "Silver Jubilee Souvenir" Hereford United FC 1924-1949
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Post by Andrew on Mar 23, 2024 13:30:51 GMT
The Council should remember why the land was originally donated to the City and who it was that settled the lease to the Richardsons. Why?
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Post by Andrew on Mar 23, 2024 13:32:59 GMT
You have a strange perception of the morals and honour of the council. "Negotiations were successful and in mid-1931 the Council paid £3,000 for the ground, after the Hereford Athletic Ground Ltd had passed a motion to sell the land at a price which would yield at least par value to the shareholders, on condition that the ground should be reserved for sport" Page 15 "Silver Jubilee Souvenir" Hereford United FC 1924-1949 That was to an old District Council that no longer exists and legislation has surpassed those conditions.
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Post by sortitoutwebbbull on Mar 23, 2024 13:35:19 GMT
"Negotiations were successful and in mid-1931 the Council paid £3,000 for the ground, after the Hereford Athletic Ground Ltd had passed a motion to sell the land at a price which would yield at least par value to the shareholders, on condition that the ground should be reserved for sport" Page 15 "Silver Jubilee Souvenir" Hereford United FC 1924-1949 That was to an old District Council that no longer exists and legislation has surpassed those conditions. Prove it
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