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Post by sortitoutwebbbull on Sept 8, 2015 20:28:05 GMT
I'm sure you will join me in congratulating Sir Wayne............ An excellent achievement I'm sure you will agree.
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Post by Wet Owl on Sept 8, 2015 20:32:31 GMT
Give me strength. I don't know what's more exciting watching England play or Glen Hoddle's commentary
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Post by castlebull on Sept 8, 2015 20:35:59 GMT
Cricket was good.
Football was decent from about when the cricket stopped.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 20:53:47 GMT
My highlight from the evening was Rooney on scoring the historic goal running full speed to the corner flag whilst lifting his top to reveal a T-shirt stating "I'm Andy Munsley".
I adore that famous scouse wit.
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Post by Armchairfan on Sept 8, 2015 20:55:39 GMT
I'm sure you will join me in congratulating Sir Wayne............ An excellent achievement I'm sure you will agree. Like him or loathe him. He has still scored more than anyone else in English National football history regardless of perceived quality of opposition. I don't like him but tonight I have some respect for him. Well done and congratulations. Now score a bloody great hat full and bring home the silverware in the finals !!!!!! |
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Post by sortitoutwebbbull on Sept 8, 2015 21:04:07 GMT
My highlight from the evening was Rooney on scoring the historic goal running full speed to the corner flag whilst lifting his top to reveal a T-shirt stating "I'm Andy Munsley". I adore that famous scouse wit. Ha! I clearly misread that - I thought it said "sign the Spaniard Pete".............. |
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Post by bigglesbull on Sept 8, 2015 21:37:32 GMT
might be because most were penalties.
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Post by oldmeadowender on Sept 8, 2015 21:39:39 GMT
I'm sure you will join me in congratulating Sir Wayne............ An excellent achievement I'm sure you will agree. Alright I'm not going to be bitter and twisted tonight, well done Wayne. But it is still a sad day for...no, I'll stop. |
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Post by bullinkiddy on Sept 8, 2015 21:43:03 GMT
Jimmy greaves, enough said.
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Post by oldmeadowender on Sept 8, 2015 22:07:24 GMT
Let's compromise and divide the number of goals Rooney has scored by the number of major tournaments where he didn't turn up. So he has in reality scored ten goals. There. I feel better now.
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Post by colebridgebull on Sept 8, 2015 23:32:08 GMT
Might be because he has played more games. I think he's played the same number (106) as Sir Bobby. somehow Sir Wayne doesn't have quite the same ring edit-Rooney won his 107th cap tonight, Charlton got 106. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 8:01:18 GMT
Might be because he has played more games. I think he's played the same number (106) as Sir Bobby. somehow Sir Wayne doesn't have quite the same ring edit-Rooney won his 107th cap tonight, Charlton got 106. After 106 games they were both on 49 goals, so equal in all respects. Any comments about the poor opposition Rooney has scored against are surely negated by the fact that there are a lot more stronger teams in the world today than there were in Charlton's day, and England used to consistently put shedloads of goals past lesser teams in those days. Charlton also played in the best international side in the world. Rooney definitely hasn't had that luxury. |
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Post by somnambulist on Sept 9, 2015 8:22:18 GMT
Might be because he has played more games. I think he's played the same number (106) as Sir Bobby. somehow Sir Wayne doesn't have quite the same ring edit-Rooney won his 107th cap tonight, Charlton got 106. Nat Lofthouse got thirty in thirty-three games if I remember rightly (when I say remember, I mean remember reading somewhere!) Still, good on Rooney. Seems a decent bloke to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 8:27:04 GMT
Rooney is a forward. Charlton was a midfielder. So although Rooney has more goals, you would sort of expect that to be the case. Best really to compare Rooney against Jimmy Greaves or Gary Lineker. Goals per games ratio of those 2 was far superior to Rooneys. Positional play is very different to 10 years ago, never mind 50 years ago, but yeah, fair points. It's a huge pity that Rooney hasn't scored many in tournament football though, which is something Lineker was excellent in. |
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Post by Incognito on Sept 9, 2015 8:40:04 GMT
Seems to be a huge difference in his goals scored in qualifiers compared to those scored in actual tournaments.
Also noteworthy that Charlton only got three from the spot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 9:00:09 GMT
This sort of debate could be settled far sooner if we all just accepted that everything and everyone pre-1980 is/was a hell of a lot better than everything and everyone since.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 10:55:22 GMT
This sort of debate could be settled far sooner if we all just accepted that everything and everyone pre-1980 is/was a hell of a lot better than everything and everyone since. Well that's me screwed then  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 11:31:23 GMT
The thing is, modern day footballers have everything on a plate. Special diets, special training The opposition have all all that too, in the same way that the opposition didn't in the days of Charlton. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 12:33:53 GMT
This sort of debate could be settled far sooner if we all just accepted that everything and everyone pre-1980 is/was a hell of a lot better than everything and everyone since. Think you've won the thread there,Glos. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 12:43:54 GMT
This sort of debate could be settled far sooner if we all just accepted that everything and everyone pre-1980 is/was a hell of a lot better than everything and everyone since. Think you've won the thread there,Glos. All those away days to Kazakhstan in the 80's took their toll on the standard of football as a whole. |
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