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Post by wrongguyguv on Aug 24, 2015 20:42:39 GMT
HUISA disbanded at a time when there was an awful lots of things happening at once so my memory of the exact details are very sketchy. I seem to remember that the meeting where it was decided to close got very heated. After all that has gone on this week I'm sat here now asking the following Whilst I agree HUISA had lost the independent part of their name (it became little more than a fundraising arm of the club) was pressure put on to disband HUISA because it cleared the way for HUST to be the main focal point for fans? Thus removing any rallying point for people in the future? Secondly had HUISA remained in existence how would that have fitted into the current share issue and board places? I might be way wide of the mark here and all of the controversy this week has got my mind spinning to much..... But it would fit the power and control model that now seems to be emerging. HUISA had vacancies on their board due to resignations. At the meeting, no one wanted to take over the vacant roles, therefore HUISA had no option but to fold. |
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Post by bringbackelmo on Aug 24, 2015 20:43:25 GMT
Scenario - Chris Williams Chair HUST and Martin Watson Vice Chair HUST stand down at forthcoming AGM citing workload whilst performing roles with HFC. Lack of nominees for vacancies in HUST. Demise of HUST due to members' apathy and deemed nothing to do with HFC Board of Directors. Result HFC ownership lies fully with benefactors and task is complete. A likely scenario? Discuss urgently! I imagine this may well happen now. There seems to be a lot of apathy surrounding the Trust now and given the amount of stick some its members got it would be no surprise if people don't want to step up to the plate. It looks like membership will dwindle and it'll turn into HUISA mark two, at best. It's a real shame as it could be such a positive force but I imagine it'll slide into insignificance now. |
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Post by wrongguyguv on Aug 24, 2015 20:45:11 GMT
HUST folds but Williams and Watson get asked to personally stay on Board of Directors of HFC due to their unstinting efforts to date. "Thanks for your help" message sent out to all previous HUST members.
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Post by bringbackelmo on Aug 24, 2015 20:47:29 GMT
HUST folds but Williams and Watson get asked to personally stay on Board of Directors of HFC due to their unstinting efforts to date. "Thanks for your help" message sent out to all previous HUST members. I wouldn't have thought that could happen under the terms of the constitution? |
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Post by oldmeadowender on Aug 24, 2015 20:48:57 GMT
Not unlikely...
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Post by Skomer on Aug 24, 2015 20:59:14 GMT
But unlike HUISA, HUST has a constitutional role to play for Hereford FC. It (or whoever controls it) gets to appoint 3 board members. So I return to my question on another thread, what are the best tactics for us to ensure that HUST works in the interests of its members?
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Post by oldmeadowender on Aug 24, 2015 21:01:10 GMT
It has no power for its members.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 21:02:45 GMT
But unlike HUISA, HUST has a constitutional role to play for Hereford FC. It (or whoever controls it) gets to appoint 3 board members. So I return to my question on another thread, what are the best tactics for us to ensure that HUST works in the interests of its members? I suggest a politely worded, reasonable list of questions, designed to address the many concerns raised on the forum over the last few days is submitted to the HUST board as soon as possible, signed or in some way endorsed by as many paid up HUST members as possible. I suggest as many members attend the forthcoming AGM as possible and I suggest that anyone with the time, energy and motivation offers to stand for the vacant HUST board positions. * * Easy for me to say, as I have neither the time or the energy and my levels of motivation diminish each day. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 21:03:41 GMT
It has no power for its members. A rejuvenated HUST could force the issue with the limited clout it has, however, I agree to an extent. |
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Post by sillymeadows on Aug 24, 2015 21:04:16 GMT
Scenario - Chris Williams Chair HUST and Martin Watson Vice Chair HUST stand down at forthcoming AGM citing workload whilst performing roles with HFC. Lack of nominees for vacancies in HUST. Demise of HUST due to members' apathy and deemed nothing to do with HFC Board of Directors. Result HFC ownership lies fully with benefactors and task is complete. A likely scenario? Discuss urgently! Just about right |
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Post by oldmeadowender on Aug 24, 2015 21:06:29 GMT
Needs a THIRD fans organisation...I know incredibly tedious feel free to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 21:06:08 GMT
If you are a HUST member unhappy at the way things are going then you have to go to the meeting and say so. If you are a HUST member and want to make changes to the constitution you have to go to the meeting and propose them. If you are a HUST member and want more say in leading HUST you have to download an application form and become a board member. In other words, HUST can be what you want it to be, not what Chris or Martin want it to be, as they have to abide by the views of it's members. And the only way is to go to the AGM. Even a stopped clock, as they say...  |
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Post by sillymeadows on Aug 24, 2015 21:08:41 GMT
If you are a HUST member unhappy at the way things are going then you have to go to the meeting and say so. If you are a HUST member and want to make changes to the constitution you have to go to the meeting and propose them. If you are a HUST member and want more say in leading HUST you have to download an application form and become a board member. In other words, HUST can be what you want it to be, not what Chris or Martin want it to be, as they have to abide by the views of it's members. And the only way is to go to the AGM. Are you still going to stand for election Graham ? |
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Post by 2kilts28 on Aug 24, 2015 21:09:56 GMT
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Post by oldmeadowender on Aug 24, 2015 21:13:19 GMT
The club won't be interested. They don't want good players....(OK that was facetious)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 21:18:06 GMT
In other words, HUST can be what you want it to be, not what Chris or Martin want it to be, as they have to abide by the views of it's members. And the only way is to go to the AGM. But that is evidently not true considering at least one of the HUST board has recently resigned as Chris and Martin took no notice of their concerns. HUST members do not even have the power to remove their representatives from the HFC board. This is why people wanted to read a draft of the A of As before they were put in place, but some fools like you hounded them down. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 21:20:28 GMT
In other words, HUST can be what you want it to be, not what Chris or Martin want it to be, as they have to abide by the views of it's members. And the only way is to go to the AGM. But that is evidently not true considering at least one of the HUST board has recently resigned as Chris and Martin took no notice of their concerns. HUST members do not even have the power to remove their representatives from the HFC board. This is why people wanted to read a draft of the A of As before they were put in place, but some fools like you hounded them down. Missed you. |
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Post by Skomer on Aug 24, 2015 21:21:59 GMT
It has no power for its members. I have never read the HUST constitution before, so I thought I would skim read it to see if this is true. As members elect the HUST board and can (if sufficient numbers vote for it) require a director to resign, I am not sure why the members have no power. The challenge would be to organise sufficient members to vote as a caucus. Unless you mean that HUST has no power over HFC - any entity with 50% of the shares and 3 directors should be able to wield some power - whether in the interest of its members or not is rather up to us. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 21:22:14 GMT
But that is evidently not true considering at least one of the HUST board has recently resigned as Chris and Martin took no notice of their concerns. HUST members do not even have the power to remove their representatives from the HFC board. This is why people wanted to read a draft of the A of As before they were put in place, but some fools like you hounded them down. 1. I am not a fool. 2. We were given the reasons why we could not read them. 3. You haven't seen the proposals I'll be putting at the meeting. 1. OK, thick. 2. No we weren't. 3. I couldn't give a shit what you think as you are easy to manipulate. |
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Post by 2kilts28 on Aug 24, 2015 21:23:55 GMT
In other words, HUST can be what you want it to be, not what Chris or Martin want it to be, as they have to abide by the views of it's members. And the only way is to go to the AGM. But that is evidently not true considering at least one of the HUST board has recently resigned as Chris and Martin took no notice of their concerns. HUST members do not even have the power to remove their representatives from the HFC board. This is why people wanted to read a draft of the A of As before they were put in place, but some fools like you hounded them down. Murray, whats the ideal end game for you personally, for Hereford United? (Serious question). |
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