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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Nov 17, 2024 16:24:55 GMT
I wasn’t the one suggesting that such votes are once only. Personally am all for revisiting decisions if new facts emerge. Or the electorate are misled in some way. Misled you say? Barney and 7 others know about that. I’d go with deceived Andrew. |
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Post by ST Andrew on Nov 17, 2024 21:38:56 GMT
Misled you say? Barney and 7 others know about that. I’d go with deceived Andrew. Deception is correct |
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Post by Differentiabull on Nov 18, 2024 21:30:31 GMT
I don't know any detail here and what has gone on, nor am I going to hunt around for a Twitter thread. But remember, we all support the same club here. The outcome we all want is a successful football club, in Hereford, playing at Edgar Street. If your main reason for objecting so strongly to this process is because you don't like what some people have said, rather than the outcome itself, I'd perhaps cautiously suggest that we should all look for bigger picture rather than bigger fracture. Maybe they could have done it your way. They haven't - but they're still Hereford fans who want the best for the club, just like you, and me, and the bennys, and Stig, and whoever. What needs to happen is everyone gets round the table and discusses it. We saw what happened in 2013 when some Hereford fans refused to talk to some Hereford fans. Please let's be grown ups this time. You accused me of being "schismatic" yesterday. Never mind the details about this proposed abomination, please try to grasp the immorality of a reversion to the name Hereford United. When "supporters" sought relentlessly and meretriciously to hound out a chairman and colleague who had put over one million pounds into that club in the period leading up to 2014 - with no alternative plan - that some people, like me, aren't going to forget. There was plenty of "schism" going on there. It's Hereford FC, ok? I am a season ticket holder. I've been going, pretty much non-stop since 1962. Who the hell are you? I can relate to your position. I held it myself for the first couple of years of Hereford FC for reasons similar to yours. It's perfectly reasonable. I've mellowed since, if you will, but I don't blame anyone for still feeling resentful. My schism point was that we're all on the same side here - none of the positions (keep FC, change back to United, don't care) are existential to the club in the way the topics we argued about in 2014 potentially were, where divisions were ugly and deep. And however strongly we feel, I don't think we have a right to disparage and denigrate each other for genuinely held views on this. Argue against it, sure, but those with different views aren't 'thick Hereford United supporters'. Playing the man is fairly meretricious too, no? |
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Post by GRL on Nov 19, 2024 11:14:48 GMT
You accused me of being "schismatic" yesterday. Never mind the details about this proposed abomination, please try to grasp the immorality of a reversion to the name Hereford United. When "supporters" sought relentlessly and meretriciously to hound out a chairman and colleague who had put over one million pounds into that club in the period leading up to 2014 - with no alternative plan - that some people, like me, aren't going to forget. There was plenty of "schism" going on there. It's Hereford FC, ok? I am a season ticket holder. I've been going, pretty much non-stop since 1962. Who the hell are you? I can relate to your position. I held it myself for the first couple of years of Hereford FC for reasons similar to yours. It's perfectly reasonable. I've mellowed since, if you will, but I don't blame anyone for still feeling resentful. My schism point was that we're all on the same side here - none of the positions (keep FC, change back to United, don't care) are existential to the club in the way the topics we argued about in 2014 potentially were, where divisions were ugly and deep. And however strongly we feel, I don't think we have a right to disparage and denigrate each other for genuinely held views on this. Argue against it, sure, but those with different views aren't 'thick Hereford United supporters'. Playing the man is fairly meretricious too, no? Yes, fair comment; your posts have always been very well argued and reasonable. It probably reads a bit more aggressive than intended but I regret saying "who the hell are you?". Not good. Apologies. |
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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Nov 19, 2024 12:20:33 GMT
I can relate to your position. I held it myself for the first couple of years of Hereford FC for reasons similar to yours. It's perfectly reasonable. I've mellowed since, if you will, but I don't blame anyone for still feeling resentful. My schism point was that we're all on the same side here - none of the positions (keep FC, change back to United, don't care) are existential to the club in the way the topics we argued about in 2014 potentially were, where divisions were ugly and deep. And however strongly we feel, I don't think we have a right to disparage and denigrate each other for genuinely held views on this. Argue against it, sure, but those with different views aren't 'thick Hereford United supporters'. Playing the man is fairly meretricious too, no? Yes, fair comment; your posts have always been very well argued and reasonable. It probably reads a bit more aggressive than intended but I regret saying "who the hell are you?". Not good. Apologies. Bravo. Might I ask if you also regret calling supporters thick? |
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Post by Peroni on Nov 19, 2024 12:29:46 GMT
That might cause a bit of radio silence.
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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Nov 19, 2024 12:38:01 GMT
That might cause a bit of radio silence. Sort of what I was hoping for. 😉 |
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Post by GRL on Nov 19, 2024 12:56:41 GMT
Yes, fair comment; your posts have always been very well argued and reasonable. It probably reads a bit more aggressive than intended but I regret saying "who the hell are you?". Not good. Apologies. Bravo. Might I ask if you also regret calling supporters thick? If they have joined "HUST" - no. If, for example, they allowed me to join I would be very concerned about the robustness of such a group.  (I see Wes Streeting took on my productivity sentiments.) |
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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Nov 19, 2024 12:59:12 GMT
Bravo. Might I ask if you also regret calling supporters thick? If they have joined "HUST" - no. If, for example, they allowed me to join I would be very concerned about the robustness of such a group. (I see Wes Streeting took on my productivity sentiments.) You had every chance wain… |
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Post by sortitoutwebbbull on Nov 19, 2024 14:14:31 GMT
If they have joined "HUST" - no. If, for example, they allowed me to join I would be very concerned about the robustness of such a group. (I see Wes Streeting took on my productivity sentiments.) You had every chance wain… So now what?............. |
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