But them's the breaks

[ST Andrew]

171 in favour, hardly a massive mandate.

[MAXBULL]

41 against is even less by my maths.
Every poll I’ve seen where up to a thousand have voted has been for United by some margin.
So I’d say the result is a true reflection of what the fans want.

[colebridgebull]

I’m not sure that’s the case. Given the average home gate is in the region of 2500, 171 is significantly less than 10%. The Bring Back United Group have done a decent job in getting this far, but it’s only a small percentage of the fan base who have been bothered enough to sign up to HUST and vote. I’d be more worried about the not insignificant number of existing HUST members who either voted against or abstained. To be honest, the numbers are pretty poor either way.

If 171 is a true reflection of the power of the movement, then it strikes me as being more a gentle fart of indifference. Which (to me at least) reflects the view that the whole thing is a monumental waste of time and money.

I’ve got a monorail going cheap if anyone’s interested

[bringbackelmo]

You guys are incredibly tedious. The vote was well-advertised and open to anyone that wanted to participate. The mandate is crushing - 80% in favour. "Boohoo something is happening that I don't like but because I think I'm an intellectual I know better than everyone else".

[colebridgebull]

I’m simply commenting that to suggest the vote “represents the views of the fans” when less than 10% of the average home gate (let alone exiles) actually bothered to get involved one way or another is patently bollocks. 

I could have written that it actually suggests that less than 10% want the change. That’s also patently bollocks. Realistically it’s probably 50/50.

It’s not particularly tricky to work out

I might add that while the vote is an instruction to the Trust to vote in a certain way, it’s hardly the ringing endorsement that will persuade the shareholders one way or the other. I’ve read the business case. Have the club commented on it? The full of assumptions, presumptions and back of fag packet calculations one.

Also to add that I’m pretty indifferent one way or the other. Just think it’s all a bit pointless

[MAXBULL]

So we’re saying 41 people out of 2500ish are bothered enough to vote to stay as Hereford FC?
United it is then.😎

[bringbackelmo]

Yes it's clear that it's probably 50/50 despite the fan vote demonstrating a clear majority.

Well done on totally proving my point in the previous post.

[bringbackelmo]

Fundamentally HUST is the vehicle for fan representation on the board and has passed a resolution with a significant majority.

Anything else, including your opinion, is irrelevant 👍🏻

[MAXBULL]

Nov 15, 2024 9:02:03 GMT bringbackelmo said:

Yes it's clear that it's probably 50/50 despite the fan vote demonstrating a clear majority.

Well done on totally proving my point in the previous post.

😆

[MAXBULL]

Nov 15, 2024 8:32:14 GMT colebridgebull said:

I’m simply commenting that to suggest the vote “represents the views of the fans” when less than 10% of the average home gate (let alone exiles) actually bothered to get involved one way or another is patently bollocks. 

I could have written that it actually suggests that less than 10% want the change. That’s also patently bollocks. Realistically it’s probably 50/50.

It’s not particularly tricky to work out

I might add that while the vote is an instruction to the Trust to vote in a certain way, it’s hardly the ringing endorsement that will persuade the shareholders one way or the other. I’ve read the business case. Have the club commented on it? The full of assumptions, presumptions and back of fag packet calculations one.

Also to add that I’m pretty indifferent one way or the other. Just think it’s all a bit pointless

Don’t worry I’m not very good at maths either.

saveedgarstreetforum.proboards.com/thread/1360/new-old

You can find similar results elsewhere with a much larger vote.

[colebridgebull]

Wow. Tag teamed by Elmo and Max. Well done you two.

However you want to paint it, it is not a big number. It’s startlingly poor. But you go, you.

[GRL]

74.35% of the people present voted for United. Not 80%.
(Didn't see this thread until after the other one. Sorry about that.)

[sortitoutwebbbull]

Nov 15, 2024 8:32:14 GMT colebridgebull said:

I’m simply commenting that to suggest the vote “represents the views of the fans” when less than 10% of the average home gate (let alone exiles) actually bothered to get involved one way or another is patently bollocks. 

I could have written that it actually suggests that less than 10% want the change. That’s also patently bollocks. Realistically it’s probably 50/50.

It’s not particularly tricky to work out

I might add that while the vote is an instruction to the Trust to vote in a certain way, it’s hardly the ringing endorsement that will persuade the shareholders one way or the other. I’ve read the business case. Have the club commented on it? The full of assumptions, presumptions and back of fag packet calculations one.

Also to add that I’m pretty indifferent one way or the other. Just think it’s all a bit pointless

Just wondered how you view paragraph 16 of the A of A's ................. could this actually hold the key to this?

[Peroni]

Nov 15, 2024 9:39:59 GMT GRL said:

74.35% of the people present voted for United. Not 80%.
(Didn't see this thread until after the other one. Sorry about that.)

of those who had a yes/no opinion, 80% want to be United
Just under 8% of people who bothered to vote actually don't want HUFC nor HFC. Did they abstain on every vote ?
only 58% of those present want to be United

[MAXBULL]

Nov 15, 2024 9:39:59 GMT GRL said:

74.35% of the people present voted for United. Not 80%.
(Didn't see this thread until after the other one. Sorry about that.)

Not only good at writing but maths as well.

Still a lot more than 2 thirds I think.
I’m no better at fractions than I am in percentages. ☹️

[Peroni]

Nov 15, 2024 9:51:23 GMT sortitoutwebbbull said:

Nov 15, 2024 8:32:14 GMT colebridgebull said:

I’m simply commenting that to suggest the vote “represents the views of the fans” when less than 10% of the average home gate (let alone exiles) actually bothered to get involved one way or another is patently bollocks. 

I could have written that it actually suggests that less than 10% want the change. That’s also patently bollocks. Realistically it’s probably 50/50.

It’s not particularly tricky to work out

I might add that while the vote is an instruction to the Trust to vote in a certain way, it’s hardly the ringing endorsement that will persuade the shareholders one way or the other. I’ve read the business case. Have the club commented on it? The full of assumptions, presumptions and back of fag packet calculations one.

Also to add that I’m pretty indifferent one way or the other. Just think it’s all a bit pointless

Just wondered how you view paragraph 16 of the A of A's ................. could this actually hold the key to this?

Do we ask them first then?

[MAXBULL]

Nov 15, 2024 9:53:07 GMT Peroni said:

Nov 15, 2024 9:39:59 GMT GRL said:

74.35% of the people present voted for United. Not 80%.
(Didn't see this thread until after the other one. Sorry about that.)

of those who had a yes/no opinion, 80% want to be United
Just under 8% of people who bothered to vote actually don't want HUFC nor HFC. Did they abstain on every vote ?
only 58% of those present want to be United

🥴

[White Lightning]

I am surprised how low the take up within the HUST membership was rather than the fan base as a whole.

Only 45% of the membership voted?

[colebridgebull]

Nov 15, 2024 9:51:23 GMT sortitoutwebbbull said:

Nov 15, 2024 8:32:14 GMT colebridgebull said:

I’m simply commenting that to suggest the vote “represents the views of the fans” when less than 10% of the average home gate (let alone exiles) actually bothered to get involved one way or another is patently bollocks. 

I could have written that it actually suggests that less than 10% want the change. That’s also patently bollocks. Realistically it’s probably 50/50.

It’s not particularly tricky to work out

I might add that while the vote is an instruction to the Trust to vote in a certain way, it’s hardly the ringing endorsement that will persuade the shareholders one way or the other. I’ve read the business case. Have the club commented on it? The full of assumptions, presumptions and back of fag packet calculations one.

Also to add that I’m pretty indifferent one way or the other. Just think it’s all a bit pointless

Just wondered how you view paragraph 16 of the A of A's ................. could this actually hold the key to this?

Can you give me a link? 

[Peroni]

Nov 15, 2024 9:53:59 GMT MAXBULL said:

Nov 15, 2024 9:39:59 GMT GRL said:

74.35% of the people present voted for United. Not 80%.
(Didn't see this thread until after the other one. Sorry about that.)

Not only good at writing but maths as well.

Still a lot more than 2 thirds I think.
I’m no better at fractions than I am in percentages. ☹️

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