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Post by White Lightning on Jun 2, 2024 15:02:35 GMT
Can't see any reason why the new pylons and lights can go up while the old towers remain until the telecoms contracts expire. In the same footprint? |
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Post by Gulliver on Jun 2, 2024 15:18:14 GMT
Am I right in thinking Telecom has equipment on only one pylon? If so, why not remove the other three or at least the two at the meadow end?
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Post by White Lightning on Jun 2, 2024 15:43:50 GMT
Cost.
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Post by tigerfeet on Jun 2, 2024 16:05:13 GMT
Why not bring Saturday kick off times forward to 2pm? Then we'd only need floodlights for night games, which would be much more eco-friendly.
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Post by jimcarrey on Jun 2, 2024 18:04:50 GMT
Am I right in thinking Telecom has equipment on only one pylon? If so, why not remove the other three or at least the two at the meadow end? Good grief man. Taking three of the floodlight pylons down would be akin to removing a leg off a three legged stool! The Blackfriars end would sink into oblivion. *Although that would reduce the money required for its demolition so it could be a valid idea after all. |
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Post by Gulliver on Jun 2, 2024 18:39:00 GMT
😃 Obviously I meant only until the contract issue had been settled, then complete the removal and installation of the fourth.
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Post by Incognito on Jun 2, 2024 18:49:50 GMT
Can't see any reason why the new pylons and lights can go up while the old towers remain until the telecoms contracts expire. In the same footprint? Not nessy celery. New pylons should only need a square metre? |
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Post by White Lightning on Jun 2, 2024 19:45:32 GMT
Not nessy celery. New pylons should only need a square metre? I think the pad foundation that they would sit in would be at least 1.5m x 1.5m. It would be a pig to dig that with the existing looming over you, plus it would probably complicate the cabling as you have that in the way. Surely the best way of doing it would be to have a clear picture of what stands/other structures are going to be built in future then locate these in the optimum place to avoid them and ensure that all the future access points are smack on. I would guess the time to do all that based on the 18 months would be the close season in two years time. Summer 2026? I might be talking out of my arse though as it has been sunny. Making things harder than they need to be for builders either makes them loads of dough or bankrupts them depending on how well the contract is written. |
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Post by White Lightning on Jun 2, 2024 19:53:18 GMT
Here is a half arsed quiz question. If you did have two sets of floodlights, old in front of new, that would be quirky even for Edgar Street.
At what ground in the football league did they during redevelopment build a new stand in front of the original, and rather than knock down the original did they just leave it? I believe it is still there.
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Post by Gresty on Jun 2, 2024 20:02:13 GMT
Not nessy celery. New pylons should only need a square metre? I think the pad foundation that they would sit in would be at least 1.5m x 1.5m. It would be a pig to dig that with the existing looming over you, plus it would probably complicate the cabling as you have that in the way. Surely the best way of doing it would be to have a clear picture of what stands/other structures are going to be built in future then locate these in the optimum place to avoid them and ensure that all the future access points are smack on. I would guess the time to do all that would be the close season in two years time. Summer 2026? I might be talking out of my arse though as it has been sunny. Making things harder than they need to be for builders either makes them loads of dough or bankrupts them depending on how well the contract is written. Loving that last paragraph. The voice of experience? 😃 |
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Post by White Lightning on Jun 2, 2024 20:04:40 GMT
I think the pad foundation that they would sit in would be at least 1.5m x 1.5m. It would be a pig to dig that with the existing looming over you, plus it would probably complicate the cabling as you have that in the way. Surely the best way of doing it would be to have a clear picture of what stands/other structures are going to be built in future then locate these in the optimum place to avoid them and ensure that all the future access points are smack on. I would guess the time to do all that would be the close season in two years time. Summer 2026? I might be talking out of my arse though as it has been sunny. Making things harder than they need to be for builders either makes them loads of dough or bankrupts them depending on how well the contract is written. Loving that last paragraph. The voice of experience? 😃 Ask Laing how they fared with building the Millennium. The bit of the industry that I am in we make money out of awkward. Right ambulance chasers. Keep things simple and they don't cost as much, anything awkward and the contractor will just price in a bit of risk if they have any brains. |
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Post by White Lightning on Jun 2, 2024 20:10:22 GMT
Am I right in thinking Telecom has equipment on only one pylon? If so, why not remove the other three or at least the two at the meadow end? Good grief man. Taking three of the floodlight pylons down would be akin to removing a leg off a three legged stool! The Blackfriars end would sink into oblivion. *Although that would reduce the money required for its demolition so it could be a valid idea after all. I took my lad to the bus replacement service station this afternoon, he will be back for the summer. As we were waiting at the lights where Blackfriars Street is I pointed at the Blackfriars End and said that it might be the last glimpse he has of that intact. Not sure when they are starting (it is on BN somewhere), but they won't hang about once they start. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2024 20:33:09 GMT
Here is a half arsed quiz question. If you did have two sets of floodlights, old in front of new, that would be quirky even for Edgar Street. At what ground in the football league did they during redevelopment build a new stand in front of the original, and rather than knock down the original did they just leave it? I believe it is still there. Home Park? I might be wrong. Remember the John Ireland stand at Wolves? Built behind the existing Molineux Street stand which, when the old stand was knocked down, left them with a shiny new job set miles back from the pitch and no more money to do anything about it. Jesus wept. |
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Post by White Lightning on Jun 2, 2024 20:35:58 GMT
Just checked out BN and I think the Blackriars Street demolition starts tomorrow. They will probably take a week establishing the site then they will crack on.
I think that is a big deal. First significant change to the ground since Block A was built over 30 years ago.
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Post by White Lightning on Jun 2, 2024 20:37:36 GMT
Here is a half arsed quiz question. If you did have two sets of floodlights, old in front of new, that would be quirky even for Edgar Street. At what ground in the football league did they during redevelopment build a new stand in front of the original, and rather than knock down the original did they just leave it? I believe it is still there. Home Park? I might be wrong. Remember the John Ireland stand at Wolves? Built behind the existing Molineux Street stand which, when the old stand was knocked down, left them with a shiny new job set miles back from the pitch and no more money to do anything about it. Jesus wept. No. Not Home Park. There are some fantastic photos of the John Ireland stand being built I will try and find a link. |
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Post by White Lightning on Jun 2, 2024 20:42:01 GMT
Naturally it is on a Burnley forum. Some bugger has put dirty great big watermarks on the photos at the bottom. They never used to be on there. EDIT. If you Google John Ireland Stand Construction and click on images there are some nutty photos on there. www.uptheclarets.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=23861 |
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Post by glossybull on Jun 3, 2024 11:34:43 GMT
Do the council own the floodlights or the club? I ask this, as they must be worth a few quid when they come to be reclaimed? I would say, enough of an amount that we should be asking for clarity on how much they stand to make and how that money plans to be used.
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Post by greekgod on Jun 3, 2024 11:48:14 GMT
If council do own them, surely they could leave the pylons there and place one of their moss things on top or those lovely planters which would then be out of harms way of the vandals and the fair.
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Post by White Lightning on Jun 3, 2024 13:17:47 GMT
Quiz question clue. Hereford United never played them in the football league. Possibly never at all. But deffo not in the league.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2024 15:58:01 GMT
From that additional bit of information (and with the aid of my good friend Google Earth), I believe the answer may be Highbury Stadium, Fleetwood?
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