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Post by Fownhope Bull on Aug 19, 2015 9:36:36 GMT
Who is Admin/Munsley? Ok I'll go first. Coup de Hancockt says "Turner was right". Turner wanted to ban him from the Club in 2008/2009? ex-landlord say "look inside the Boardroom" Munsley has access to Bulls News as a "Guest writer". i put put it to you my lud that BB Admin/Munsley is none other than our own Club Secretary. Got himself into a bit of a pickle on BB with Differs and Wainwrong etc. and bailed out. Computer literate and able to swiftly assist to get alternatives up and running overnight. All previous entries relating to mw; Bobo deleted prior to pulling the plug - strange or what? Club closes ranks to protect one of its own and all is forgotten. Now all open for discussion on this new independent forum cos it has no links to the Club. We know that because they made a statement. Who cares anyway so long as Beadle has a winning team. I so don't want this to be true, but it does have an awful ring of plausibility about it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 10:11:31 GMT
Frankly, it's the only obvious conclusion one would draw. If Newboy or one of our 'guests' has some info to disprove it, it'd probably be a good moment to share it, as otherwise most of us on here (of course, we are but a small minority of 'cockwombles') are going to walk away with the conclusion that the people running our club have some fairly sinister hobbies, and are, once again, not very interested in hearing the voice of the fans.
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Post by bringbackelmo on Aug 19, 2015 10:16:39 GMT
Who is Admin/Munsley? Ok I'll go first. Coup de Hancockt says "Turner was right". Turner wanted to ban him from the Club in 2008/2009? ex-landlord say "look inside the Boardroom" Munsley has access to Bulls News as a "Guest writer". i put put it to you my lud that BB Admin/Munsley is none other than our own Club Secretary. Got himself into a bit of a pickle on BB with Differs and Wainwrong etc. and bailed out. Computer literate and able to swiftly assist to get alternatives up and running overnight. All previous entries relating to mw; Bobo deleted prior to pulling the plug - strange or what? Club closes ranks to protect one of its own and all is forgotten. Now all open for discussion on this new independent forum cos it has no links to the Club. We know that because they made a statement. Who cares anyway so long as Beadle has a winning team. I so don't want this to be true, but it does have an awful ring of plausibility about it. Same here, doesn't look good at all. What a bungle.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 11:01:45 GMT
Innocent until proven guilty or guilty until proven innocent?
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Post by welshbull on Aug 19, 2015 11:05:04 GMT
Innocent until proven guilty or guilty until proven innocent? Part of the issue is that we're yet to even hear the plea...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 11:09:59 GMT
Innocent until proven guilty or guilty until proven innocent? Imagine one of your pals at nursery (just joshing) stole your birthday cake, left a note clearly in his handwriting saying "the Cake Monster ate your cake!", then left a trail of crumbs all the way to their door. What would you think if their reaction was neither: a) to say "sorry fatty, i ate your cake!" b) to say, "it really wasn't me" and help you investigate the whereabouts of the cake monster but c) to burn down the nursery and the note within it and disappear off into the woods
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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Aug 19, 2015 12:34:35 GMT
I'm sure the illuminati at ES keep an eye on social media and message-boards, they can see what a shit-storm this is, and they can see where the fingers are pointing. For the sake of harmony amongst the fan-base, to let us move on and concentrate on the football, they could have persuaded the only person who appears to know Andy Munsley to reveal him. This then all immediately goes away. Instead they issue a statement closing ranks, and decree that there will be no further comment. That leaves us with three possible paths of truth.
- That they know Munsley is real. - That they know he is a figment of someone's imagination, and that that someone is being protected. - That they believe the person at the centre of this clusterfeck is telling the truth, and that despite some pretty compelling evidence, half of the fan-base, their constituents ffs, are deluded conspiracy theorists out to cause mayhem at their club.
This isn't going away, and when it is proven that Munsley doesn't exist, you're going to look at best pretty foolish. Worst case scenario? Work that one out yourselves.
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Post by eggchaserbull on Aug 19, 2015 15:57:47 GMT
In the main, ignoring the Guest WUMs, the writing style on this forum is so much better than the old BB.
I'm glad I wasn't reading this thread close to bedtime: It's one of those tales where I can't put the book down, and get any sleep, until I've finished the last page.
Personally, I hope there is plenty more mileage in this thread.
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Post by Nomad on Aug 19, 2015 18:39:36 GMT
Understood. But what is the reason for the suspicion? It was learnt from a horse's mouth, so to speak (and posited by former HUST board member 'bgbull'), that the new 'absent' Admin, who had been banning people without explanation and refusing to acknowledge the growing frustration at his actions was someone by the name of Andrew Munsley, posting on bullsbanter with the name 'Muno' - it turned out that one of his ban victims had been banned for terming him a 'hypocritical fekker' in an otherwise extremely level-headed post. This Munsley turned out to have been a guest contributor to BullsNews who wrote a number of exceedingly 'Party Line' articles at times when perhaps it was felt that HUST couldn't play their cards straight (back in the days when most of us agreed with each other), then later in support of the HALE/Benefactor Plan and against the idea of 'Fan Ownership' (they can still be seen, for example: bullsnews.blogspot.com/2014/12/pay-to-play.html , bullsnews.blogspot.com/2015/01/wasnt-me-guv.html ) This Munsley character also turned out to have a Twitter account, which is/was a bit odd to say the least, with a blurry photo and references to globe trotting work commitments, collaborations with S Club 7 and a fondness for Dean Martin. Then some clever Andy Woolmer reverse image searched his profile picture, and found that his face belonged to an accountant from Manchester. It wasn't me who found this out, but here's my post from bullsbanter which explained it before the purge: View AttachmentSo, as this info began to leach out, we were left with the situation where a man unknown to ANYONE but 'BOBO' of bullsnews, with a borrowed face, had assumed control of the forum, appeared to ban people who posted controversial opinions about HFC, and then finally after some time offline, was observed to log back into bulls banter at the exact moment the thread bearing most of the revelations was locked, subsequently deleted, which was soon followed by the forum being locked and then shut down (maintenance ....), whilst HFC boisterously denied any involvement - which I'm sure they honestly believe, but probably haven't any means of proving (unless the party in question comes clean...) I've left a few blanks for you to fill in, but it should be obvious enough. The question is, where do we go from here? Are there any more stings in the tail? We're dealing with slippery fish here. Who's playing who, and WHY? What the hell?
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Post by oldmeadowender on Aug 19, 2015 20:30:42 GMT
Scary stuff but we must surely be in safe hands now, since saveedgardstreet.com IMHO did most to expose and see off the horrible Agomdale era. I can't think of another group who have the future of our club closer to their heatrs.
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Post by Foulcow on Aug 19, 2015 21:04:50 GMT
This ^^^^
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Post by bsm on Aug 20, 2015 22:43:00 GMT
So after a day of debate the verdict on Martin Watson is?
All leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. Can this board be trusted?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 23:43:56 GMT
No man can be trusted!
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Post by bsm on Aug 21, 2015 15:05:02 GMT
Sadly the last 48 hours has brought quite a few unanswered questions home to roost. A lot has been unspoken in and around Hereford, Edgar Street and elsewhere over the past couple of years. A lot of head-scratching as to what had gone on at the club. Why did David Keyte, a decent local bloke who had supported Hereford United for 40yrs+ suddenly become a crook, someone trying to kill the club, trying to get it relegated. I now believe he wasn't, he didn't. I now believe he was bright enough to accept he couldn't beat this carefully constructed assassination via social media. I am sure he has a lot he could say on the subject but, I have to say to his credit, he has never, to my knowledge, said anything.
He has always said that HUST never went back in and therefore I guess Agombar would have to do.
I will now follow the results from afar. Sad as it is 51 years since I first went to Edgar Street with my Dad. I wish the football club of Hereford and its supporters well but I'm afraid have no respect for those who have manufactured this situation, from benefactors to Chairman.
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Post by wrongguyguv on Aug 21, 2015 15:12:30 GMT
What a sad situation this is. I can share BSM's sentiments. It is not satisfactory at all. I think he is right to make a move now if he has such strong feelings, before the "new" club takes hold. Interesting to read Bobo (Watson's) article on BN about Farnborough Farce. Will that be HFC in 7 or 8 years I wonder.
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Post by bsm on Aug 23, 2015 8:52:30 GMT
Thanks Wrongguy I'll listen on the Keith Hall radio thing. He needs a few more elastic bands though! Wonderful time to drop the line yesterday wasn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 10:52:17 GMT
Sadly the last 48 hours has brought quite a few unanswered questions home to roost. A lot has been unspoken in and around Hereford, Edgar Street and elsewhere over the past couple of years. A lot of head-scratching as to what had gone on at the club. Why did David Keyte, a decent local bloke who had supported Hereford United for 40yrs+ suddenly become a crook, someone trying to kill the club, trying to get it relegated. I now believe he wasn't, he didn't. I now believe he was bright enough to accept he couldn't beat this carefully constructed assassination via social media. I am sure he has a lot he could say on the subject but, I have to say to his credit, he has never, to my knowledge, said anything. He has always said that HUST never went back in and therefore I guess Agombar would have to do. I will now follow the results from afar. Sad as it is 51 years since I first went to Edgar Street with my Dad. I wish the football club of Hereford and its supporters well but I'm afraid have no respect for those who have manufactured this situation, from benefactors to Chairman. BSM, calm down mate. Don't take anything posted on these bulletin boards too seriously. Your 51 years of support is much more valuable that the nonsense coming from a few vocal sh1te stirrers and WUM's.
The facts are that there is zero evidence that the Chairman or benefactors manufactured such a situation. MW may or may not have done something silly. All unsubstantiated but IF he has then you know what, life will go on and more importantly HFC will go on.
Your much better off not coming on here, and continuing to attend ES IMHO.
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Post by Incognito on Aug 24, 2015 12:36:44 GMT
Sadly the last 48 hours has brought quite a few unanswered questions home to roost. A lot has been unspoken in and around Hereford, Edgar Street and elsewhere over the past couple of years. A lot of head-scratching as to what had gone on at the club. Why did David Keyte, a decent local bloke who had supported Hereford United for 40yrs+ suddenly become a crook, someone trying to kill the club, trying to get it relegated. I now believe he wasn't, he didn't. I now believe he was bright enough to accept he couldn't beat this carefully constructed assassination via social media. I am sure he has a lot he could say on the subject but, I have to say to his credit, he has never, to my knowledge, said anything. He has always said that HUST never went back in and therefore I guess Agombar would have to do. I will now follow the results from afar. Sad as it is 51 years since I first went to Edgar Street with my Dad. I wish the football club of Hereford and its supporters well but I'm afraid have no respect for those who have manufactured this situation, from benefactors to Chairman. BSM, calm down mate. Don't take anything posted on these bulletin boards too seriously. Your 51 years of support is much more valuable that the nonsense coming from a few vocal sh1te stirrers and WUM's.
The facts are that there is zero evidence that the Chairman or benefactors manufactured such a situation. MW may or may not have done something silly. All unsubstantiated but IF he has then you know what, life will go on and more importantly HFC will go on.
Your much better off not coming on here, and continuing to attend ES IMHO.
You're as entitled to your opinion as much as anyone on here but posting under an alias makes your opinion no more credible than anyone else's.
And, you're right, those of us that look a little further than the end of our noses won't take anything you write on a bulletin board too seriously. It's no more substantiated than the comments you condemn.
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Post by Incognito on Aug 24, 2015 12:40:08 GMT
How anyone can believe the idea of HFC was the brainchild of longstanding supporters who believed HUFC should be killed first is beyond me. Because that is what people like bsm are saying. Facts are the people behind HFC are the very people who stood to lose the most from killing HUFC. If HUFC could have been kept going, they would have done so. I knew it, David Keyte is a benevestor.
At last that puts to bed the personality clash.
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Post by Incognito on Aug 24, 2015 12:56:07 GMT
Dear Grayham
What's your view on the Munsley affair?
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