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Post by Differentiabull on Aug 18, 2015 19:57:20 GMT
All the thousands of man hours that went into the ettiquette guide gone with one click of a selfishman's chubby little index finger. I hate you Munsley! I am trying to find the pdf copy that the Duke sent out in a cynical pre-Christmas cash grab. It missed some of the latter content, but I'd be prepared to start posting the entries back onto the forum. We're talking about a seriously important piece of work. * * If I can find it. ** ** And if Admin promises to sticky it so we don't have to keep looking for the thread every time inspiration strikes...Strangely I read most of it a few days ago. Should have known to keep it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 19:58:03 GMT
I can send you to any page of the thread
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Post by Percy on Aug 18, 2015 20:01:59 GMT
I saved the whole forum.
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Post by luke on Aug 18, 2015 20:05:23 GMT
I am trying to find the pdf copy that the Duke sent out in a cynical pre-Christmas cash grab. It missed some of the latter content, but I'd be prepared to start posting the entries back onto the forum. We're talking about a seriously important piece of work. * * If I can find it. ** ** And if Admin promises to sticky it so we don't have to keep looking for the thread every time inspiration strikes...Strangely I read most of it a few days ago. Should have known to keep it. You may be able to use this: www.nirsoft.net/utils/chrome_cache_view.html - in order to see it as it may be stored on your PC in your cache
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Post by welshbull on Aug 18, 2015 20:24:26 GMT
It's pathetic. This is presumably a grown man/woman we are talking about - "My ball and I'm going home." Seriously, if the club is involved in the decision to shut down the forum over such a ridiculous spat, we have more problems facing us than the inability to beat a pubteam when we have a WARCHEST the size of Moldova. Jesus wept. I've only followed this saga in bit parts. Can I ask why there is a suspicion that the club is in any way involved? Especially after categorically denying so earlier. Big shame it's been closed - flashbacks to the closure of the old OF and UF and the drama that unfolded in the early days of Bulls Banter (involving a certain club secretary). The etiquette guide must be salvaged!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 20:26:57 GMT
It's pathetic. This is presumably a grown man/woman we are talking about - "My ball and I'm going home." Seriously, if the club is involved in the decision to shut down the forum over such a ridiculous spat, we have more problems facing us than the inability to beat a pubteam when we have a WARCHEST the size of Moldova. Jesus wept. I've only followed this saga in bit parts. Can I ask why there is a suspicion that the club is in any way involved? Especially after categorically denying so earlier. Big shame it's been closed - flashbacks to the closure of the old OF and UF and the drama that unfolded in the early days of Bulls Banter (involving a certain club secretary). The etiquette guide must be salvaged! Poor choice of words on my part - what I meant was "someone involved with the club" rather than the club in any formal capacity. And there is no proof, just suspicion. I am working on retrieving the etiquette guide - I know I've got it somewhere...
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Post by welshbull on Aug 18, 2015 20:28:04 GMT
I've only followed this saga in bit parts. Can I ask why there is a suspicion that the club is in any way involved? Especially after categorically denying so earlier. Big shame it's been closed - flashbacks to the closure of the old OF and UF and the drama that unfolded in the early days of Bulls Banter (involving a certain club secretary). The etiquette guide must be salvaged! Poor choice of words on my part - what I meant was "someone involved with the club" rather than the club in any formal capacity. And there is no proof, just suspicion. I am working on retrieving the etiquette guide - I know I've got it somewhere... Understood. But what is the reason for the suspicion?
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Post by wainwrong on Aug 18, 2015 20:30:25 GMT
I've had a drink so I'm not going to post this.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 21:00:43 GMT
Poor choice of words on my part - what I meant was "someone involved with the club" rather than the club in any formal capacity. And there is no proof, just suspicion. I am working on retrieving the etiquette guide - I know I've got it somewhere... Understood. But what is the reason for the suspicion? It was learnt from a horse's mouth, so to speak (and posited by former HUST board member 'bgbull'), that the new 'absent' Admin, who had been banning people without explanation and refusing to acknowledge the growing frustration at his actions was someone by the name of Andrew Munsley, posting on bullsbanter with the name 'Muno' - it turned out that one of his ban victims had been banned for terming him a 'hypocritical fekker' in an otherwise extremely level-headed post. This Munsley turned out to have been a guest contributor to BullsNews who wrote a number of exceedingly 'Party Line' articles at times when perhaps it was felt that HUST couldn't play their cards straight (back in the days when most of us agreed with each other), then later in support of the HALE/Benefactor Plan and against the idea of 'Fan Ownership' (they can still be seen, for example: bullsnews.blogspot.com/2014/12/pay-to-play.html , bullsnews.blogspot.com/2015/01/wasnt-me-guv.html ) This Munsley character also turned out to have a Twitter account, which is/was a bit odd to say the least, with a blurry photo and references to globe trotting work commitments, collaborations with S Club 7 and a fondness for Dean Martin. Then some clever bastard reverse image searched his profile picture, and found that his face belonged to an accountant from Manchester. It wasn't me who found this out, but here's my post from bullsbanter which explained it before the purge: Attachment DeletedSo, as this info began to leach out, we were left with the situation where a man unknown to ANYONE but 'BOBO' of bullsnews, with a borrowed face, had assumed control of the forum, appeared to ban people who posted controversial opinions about HFC, and then finally after some time offline, was observed to log back into bulls banter at the exact moment the thread bearing most of the revelations was locked, subsequently deleted, which was soon followed by the forum being locked and then shut down (maintenance ....), whilst HFC boisterously denied any involvement - which I'm sure they honestly believe, but probably haven't any means of proving (unless the party in question comes clean...) I've left a few blanks for you to fill in, but it should be obvious enough. The question is, where do we go from here? Are there any more stings in the tail? We're dealing with slippery fish here. Who's playing who, and WHY?
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Post by welshbull on Aug 18, 2015 21:10:19 GMT
Understood. But what is the reason for the suspicion? It was learnt from a horse's mouth, so to speak (and posited by former HUST board member 'bgbull'), that the new 'absent' Admin, who had been banning people without explanation and refusing to acknowledge the growing frustration at his actions was someone by the name of Andrew Munsley, posting on bullsbanter with the name 'Muno' - it turned out that one of his ban victims had been banned for terming him a 'hypocritical fekker' in an otherwise extremely level-headed post. This Munsley turned out to have been a guest contributor to BullsNews who wrote a number of exceedingly 'Party Line' articles at times when perhaps it was felt that HUST couldn't play their cards straight (back in the days when most of us agreed with each other), then later in support of the HALE/Benefactor Plan and against the idea of 'Fan Ownership' (they can still be seen, for example: bullsnews.blogspot.com/2014/12/pay-to-play.html , bullsnews.blogspot.com/2015/01/wasnt-me-guv.html ) This Munsley character also turned out to have a Twitter account, which is/was a bit odd to say the least, with a blurry photo and references to globe trotting work commitments, collaborations with S Club 7 and a fondness for Dean Martin. Then some clever bastard reverse image searched his profile picture, and found that his face belonged to an accountant from Manchester. It wasn't me who found this out, but here's my post from bullsbanter which explained it before the purge: So, as this info began to leach out, we were left with the situation where a man unknown to ANYONE but 'BOBO' of bullsnews, with a borrowed face, had assumed control of the forum, appeared to ban people who posted controversial opinions about HFC, and then finally after some time offline, was observed to log back into bulls banter at the exact moment the thread bearing most of the revelations was locked, subsequently deleted, which was soon followed by the forum being locked and then shut down (maintenance ....), whilst HFC boisterously denied any involvement - which I'm sure they honestly believe, but probably haven't any means of proving (unless the party in question comes clean...) I've left a few blanks for you to fill in, but it should be obvious enough. The question is, where do we go from here? Are there any more stings in the tail? We're dealing with slippery fish here. Who's playing who, and WHY? Thanks, nicely summed up! Definitely very, very odd. Did the previous Admin (who did a fantastic job) not have to deal with anyone when handing over the keys?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 21:23:43 GMT
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Post by sortitoutwebbbull on Aug 18, 2015 21:42:55 GMT
Excellent work this - we need more info
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Post by nobby on Aug 18, 2015 21:56:49 GMT
The Wrexham forum was shut down back in the day by a "persons" threat to sue, it couldn't be guaranteed that everything necessary could be removed so off it went. Maybe we're woofing up the wrong trunk and Mr Keyte has come back to bite with that assistance of the Munsley crew. The old forum had no financial valve so an offer could have been made to pro boards to purchase the name/use "bulls banter", no idea why anyone would wish to do so, but then again no idea why anyone would want bulls banter shut down unless it's a legal issue and pro boards don't want the hassle. I'm sure we'll know one day, by then we'll be on BT sport Europe so won't even give a toss
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Post by sillymeadows on Aug 18, 2015 21:57:01 GMT
Not being computer savy can any one on here explain in laymen terms how the new admin happens to take over the rains on Bulls banter,some one must have let him
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 22:00:42 GMT
Not being computer savy can any one on here explain in laymen terms how the new admin happens to take over the rains on Bulls banter,some one must have let him There can be no other explanation. Login credentials must have changed hands.
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Post by somnambulist on Aug 18, 2015 22:02:44 GMT
i believe the club when they say it is nothing to do with them, my money is on someone who wants to cause a rift between the club and supporters, who wants the club to fail,maybe the same person behind that bullsbanter twitter thing, could it possibly be a certain mischief maker from the old vitals site and i don't mean bulls pirate. That's about as likely as Andrew Munsley suddenly returning to announce that he's been on a scuba diving holiday to the Cook Islands, had no internet access, dropped his sat phone in the drink... Oh, and he's got an identical twin brother who has changed his name (to celebrate his increasingly gray locks) and is working as an accountant in Manchester. But then I could be wrong...
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Post by impeachabull on Aug 18, 2015 22:19:25 GMT
Not being computer savy can any one on here explain in laymen terms how the new admin happens to take over the rains on Bulls banter,some one must have let him There can be no other explanation. Login credentials must have changed hands. Presumably somebody must have recommended 'Munsley' to the old admin team. Does anyone have any contact with them? I imagine they must be pretty annoyed that the entire forum has been shut down.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 3:56:51 GMT
web.archive.org/web/20150711181454/http://unofficialbulls.proboards.com/
Good shout. I think I was entering the wrong url.
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Post by wrongguyguv on Aug 19, 2015 8:31:43 GMT
Who is Admin/Munsley? Ok I'll go first. Coup de Hancockt says "Turner was right". Turner wanted to ban him from the Club in 2008/2009? ex-landlord say "look inside the Boardroom" Munsley has access to Bulls News as a "Guest writer". i put put it to you my lud that BB Admin/Munsley is none other than our own Club Secretary. Got himself into a bit of a pickle on BB with Differs and Wainwrong etc. and bailed out. Computer literate and able to swiftly assist to get alternatives up and running overnight. All previous entries relating to mw; Bobo deleted prior to pulling the plug - strange or what? Club closes ranks to protect one of its own and all is forgotten. Now all open for discussion on this new independent forum cos it has no links to the Club. We know that because they made a statement. Who cares anyway so long as Beadle has a winning team.
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Post by somnambulist on Aug 19, 2015 8:38:17 GMT
Who is Admin/Munsley? Ok I'll go first. Coup de Hancockt says "Turner was right". Turner wanted to ban him from the Club in 2008/2009? ex-landlord say "look inside the Boardroom" Munsley has access to Bulls News as a "Guest writer". i put put it to you my lud that BB Admin/Munsley is none other than our own Club Secretary. Got himself into a bit of a pickle on BB with Differs and Wainwrong etc. and bailed out. Computer literate and able to swiftly assist to get alternatives up and running overnight. All previous entries relating to mw; Bobo deleted prior to pulling the plug - strange or what? Club closes ranks to protect one of its own and all is forgotten. Now all open for discussion on this new independent forum cos it has no links to the Club. We know that because they made a statement. Who cares anyway so long as Beadle has a winning team. I'm sure SaveEdgarStreet managed to do that on their own.
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