wages

[dotcotton]

So what does a player at this level earn?

I really couldn't give a toss or have any idea but it's intriguing...

Obviously more at HFC than most other clubs in this league...

50 quid a week along with their day job?

[reasonabull]

Most just get expenses!

[richardwatts]

.....and a hotel the night before a game.

[onlooker]

I'd be surprised if the wages paid to Mills, Haysham and Willetts isn't more than the total budget for most teams in this league. But Hereford have the fan base to afford this, so why not?

[newuxbull]

Got a good mate who plays at this level. He gets expenses and a track suit!

[oldmeadowender]

Sept 4, 2015 19:47:44 GMT reasonabull said:

Most just get expenses!

If that's true it's shocking and partly explains some of the performances.

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Sept 4, 2015 20:36:47 GMT oldmeadowender said:

Sept 4, 2015 19:47:44 GMT reasonabull said:

Most just get expenses!

If that's true it's shocking and partly explains some of the performances.

Nobody is forcing them to play so I'm struggling to see what you're getting at.

[oldmeadowender]

Simple. If they see big crowds and they are the main attraction and they aren't getting a slice of the pie they are entitled to feel disgruntled...as we subsequently do if they're de-motivated and play like cr*ap. Just a theory, not saying that's what has caused the dodgy start to the season...

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Sept 4, 2015 20:49:40 GMT oldmeadowender said:

Simple. If they see big crowds and they are the main attraction and they aren't getting a slice of the pie they are entitled to feel disgruntled...as we subsequently do if they're de-motivated and play like cr*ap. Just a theory, not saying that's what has caused the dodgy start to the season...

So they weren't aware of potential crowd sizes before they signed?

[oldmeadowender]

FFS

[Deleted]

Seems a reasonable statement to me.

[oldmeadowender]

Sept 4, 2015 21:10:52 GMT @maxwell said:

Seems a reasonable statement to me.

It's definitely reasonable to pay our players nothing if we want amateur-night football. But we don't. If it cost me £100 quid to do a day in Heanor and I was feeling passionate about winning the game, why would the players feel as passionate as me if they're being played nothing? I can't even believe I'm having this conversation. 

[oldmeadowender]

Sept 4, 2015 21:13:45 GMT oldmeadowender said:

Sept 4, 2015 21:10:52 GMT @maxwell said:

Seems a reasonable statement to me.

It's definitely reasonable to pay our players nothing if we want amateur-night football. But we don't. If it cost me £100 quid to do a day in Heanor and I was feeling passionate about winning the game, why would the players feel as passionate as me if they're being played nothing? I can't even believe I'm having this conversation. 

Paid nothing..obviously...

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Sept 4, 2015 21:13:45 GMT oldmeadowender said:

Sept 4, 2015 21:10:52 GMT @maxwell said:

Seems a reasonable statement to me.

It's definitely reasonable to pay our players nothing if we want amateur-night football. But we don't. If it cost me £100 quid to do a day in Heanor and I was feeling passionate about winning the game, why would the players feel as passionate as me if they're being played nothing? I can't even believe I'm having this conversation. 

I think the point being is they have agreed to play for x amount knowing the size of attendances we were likely to get.

I Very much dought any of our players are on expenses only.

[oldmeadowender]

I doubted it too Maxbull, but reasonabull appeared to me to be an insider from past comments. Worrying! Equally, business is flexible. If you sign up for poxy wages based on 600 crowds and then 4,000 turn up (or even 2,000), you are going to feel like you are being short-changed. If wages were index-linked (is that the expression?) to home crowds this would eradicate the problem. You can ignore it, you can say they should be proud to wear the shirt, but this is just human nature and you ignore human nature at your peril.

[Percy]

if the crowds stay high, the players will get paid more

[oldmeadowender]

Wrong way round. Players don't get paid well, they don't play well, crowds diminish.

[castlebull]

Sept 4, 2015 20:03:07 GMT onlooker said:

I'd be surprised if the wages paid to Mills, Haysham and Willetts isn't more than the total budget for most teams in this league. But Hereford have the fan base to afford this, so why not?

I very much doubt Willets is anywhere near our top earners. A million miles away.

[oldmeadowender]

So he came to us because?

[castlebull]

Sept 4, 2015 21:30:49 GMT oldmeadowender said:

Wrong way round. Players don't get paid well, they don't play well, crowds diminish.

Most should be happy just playing football at a decent level; any money they then get for it is only a bonus!

Footballers that are motivated solely by money ain't the footballers that you want at your club.