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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 12:37:48 GMT
That may be true, but the more perceptive amongst us were expressing concern that the team was too lightweight and lacked experience weeks ago. We should have been looking at least one commanding centre half with experience at this level in his mid to late 20s well before the season started. How do you know that Beadle didn't look at this type of player? |
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Post by loyalbull on Aug 28, 2015 12:48:04 GMT
Not at all surprised to hear beads has been on the phone to Worcester about DLW, however he still hasn't signed his duel registration with us but is keen to do so and come and play. I suppose it depends if Worcester are willing to let him come, maybe a bit of competition will help Harvey raise his game, I certainly hope so anyway! |
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Post by A Bull on Aug 28, 2015 13:07:45 GMT
It looks like the 7 day notice expired last Saturday.
That suggests negotiations are ongoing this week.
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Post by bringbackelmo on Aug 28, 2015 14:03:15 GMT
Hmm so we've learnt that the club have probably been in discussions for 5 days. The player has said that nothing is set in stone and 'be hard to leave that behind'. Not really clear what'll happen then, presumably he is negotiating hard, possibly wants to play in their FA Cup game tomorrow first?
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Post by BullRush on Aug 28, 2015 14:07:02 GMT
Selfishly for us, it'd be nice if Stourport were knocked out of the FA Cup tomorrow so he doesn't have that as a lure to stay there.
Nothing against Stourport as a club though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 14:11:08 GMT
How long do we give him to make his mind up ?.
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Post by jc on Aug 28, 2015 14:18:34 GMT
How long do we give him to make his mind up ?. Till yesterday! He either wants to come and play his heart out for the shirt or he doesn't irrespective of what's on offer elsewhere in my view |
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Post by bringbackelmo on Aug 28, 2015 14:23:10 GMT
Selfishly for us, it'd be nice if Stourport were knocked out of the FA Cup tomorrow so he doesn't have that as a lure to stay there. Nothing against Stourport as a club though. Agreed! If I was in his shoes I'd be tempted by the chance of a crack at the FA Cup. |
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Post by bringbackelmo on Aug 28, 2015 14:24:25 GMT
How long do we give him to make his mind up ?. Till yesterday! He either wants to come and play his heart out for the shirt or he doesn't irrespective of what's on offer elsewhere in my view It isn't about what is on offer elsewhere it's about what he currently has. He's been at Stourport for years by the look of it, he captains the side, they're top of the league and playing well. You can't expect every player to have an affinity or desire to play for a club that they have absolutely no links with. |
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Post by jc on Aug 28, 2015 14:35:10 GMT
Till yesterday! He either wants to come and play his heart out for the shirt or he doesn't irrespective of what's on offer elsewhere in my view It isn't about what is on offer elsewhere it's about what he currently has. He's been at Stourport for years by the look of it, he captains the side, they're top of the league and playing well. You can't expect every player to have an affinity or desire to play for a club that they have absolutely no links with. Absolutely agree and if he wants to stay and play his heart out for Stourport given his history with them and where they are so be it and good luck to him, but if that's the case, shouldn't he have said at the first approach by Beads, thanks but no thanks so we can go forward from there? |
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Post by jc on Aug 28, 2015 14:48:49 GMT
Could be, but would we want such a player here whom has no heart for the club because money/package is the driving factor
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Post by rodders on Aug 28, 2015 14:53:35 GMT
I would much rather the player took a small amount of time to make a decision about his future then make a hasty one, and two weeks later decide it was all a mistake and he wants to `go home`.
I dont think the defensive probelms will be such a factor on Monday. They have won one game this season, against a Uni side, which I would imagine, try to play football. If thats the case, then long balls over the top probably wont be such an issue against Westfields.
If we can get him in for next weeks game against Heanor, then I would be pretty happy with that.
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Post by spiritofradford on Aug 28, 2015 14:55:09 GMT
Nice speculation. A player hasn't just dropped everything and everyone he has been working for and with for the last 6 years and we automatically assume its about money ? Of course it can't possibly be down to the guy possessing a little bit of loyalty and decency could it ?
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Post by luke on Aug 28, 2015 14:55:37 GMT
I would much rather the player took a small amount of time to make a decision about his future then make a hasty one, and two weeks later decide it was all a mistake and he wants to `go home`. I dont think the defensive probelms will be such a factor on Monday. They have won one game this season, against a Uni side, which I would imagine, try to play football. If thats the case, then long balls over the top probably wont be such an issue against Westfields. If we can get him in for next weeks game against Heanor, then I would be pretty happy with that. Loughborough Uni haven't had their new intake of players yet either, and according to the MFL forum, apparently a fair few of last season's squad have graduated now, weakening their side until the new blood comes in. |
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Post by wrongguyguv on Aug 28, 2015 14:58:35 GMT
A footballer who doesn't put him self first in every thought and decision is like rocking horse s/it. Managers also.
The most selfish, dog eat dog industry you will find. But that's the professional end. Amateur park football may be different, we are certainly finding out aren't we?
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Post by BullRush on Aug 28, 2015 14:59:23 GMT
I would much rather the player took a small amount of time to make a decision about his future then make a hasty one, and two weeks later decide it was all a mistake and he wants to `go home`. I dont think the defensive probelms will be such a factor on Monday. They have won one game this season, against a Uni side, which I would imagine, try to play football. If thats the case, then long balls over the top probably wont be such an issue against Westfields. If we can get him in for next weeks game against Heanor, then I would be pretty happy with that. But the whole point of being non contract is that he can go home if the move doesn't work out! As for your second point, Rocester hadn't scored a league goal up until they played us last week yet within 10 minutes they'd got 3!Yeah, by playing long ball. Read his post properly. Westfields are a footballing side devoid of lumps. They are a team who we are more suited to play against as opposed ot Highgate, Coleshill, Heanor for example. THAT is the point Rodders is making. |
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Post by rodders on Aug 28, 2015 15:00:00 GMT
I would much rather the player took a small amount of time to make a decision about his future then make a hasty one, and two weeks later decide it was all a mistake and he wants to `go home`. I dont think the defensive probelms will be such a factor on Monday. They have won one game this season, against a Uni side, which I would imagine, try to play football. If thats the case, then long balls over the top probably wont be such an issue against Westfields. If we can get him in for next weeks game against Heanor, then I would be pretty happy with that. But the whole point of being non contract is that he can go home if the move doesn't work out! As for your second point, Rocester hadn't scored a league goal up until they played us last week yet within 10 minutes they'd got 3! Yes it is, however maybe, just maybe the lad wants to make sure he is making the right decision. Just because we are 'massive Hereford FC' doesn't mean players will want to come running to play for us. As for the Rocester thing, the point I was making was more to do with the fact that as a Sports uni, they would be more likely to play football, much the same way that Westfields always have when I've watched them. Therefore needing a 6ft3 centre half is probably less needed now, and more needed against Heanor, giving us more time to get this deal right. |
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Post by will on Aug 28, 2015 15:03:16 GMT
I would much rather the player took a small amount of time to make a decision about his future then make a hasty one, and two weeks later decide it was all a mistake and he wants to `go home`. I dont think the defensive probelms will be such a factor on Monday. They have won one game this season, against a Uni side, which I would imagine, try to play football. If thats the case, then long balls over the top probably wont be such an issue against Westfields. If we can get him in for next weeks game against Heanor, then I would be pretty happy with that. But the whole point of being non contract is that he can go home if the move doesn't work out! As for your second point, Rocester hadn't scored a league goal up until they played us last week yet within 10 minutes they'd got 3! If we're trying to sign one of the best defenders in the league and another teams star player then I very much doubt we are offering terms which would allow him to walk away a week later. There is no rule to say these non contract terms are obligatory and atleast a couple of the current squad are not available on a 7 day notice. |
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Post by rodders on Aug 28, 2015 15:06:09 GMT
But the whole point of being non contract is that he can go home if the move doesn't work out! As for your second point, Rocester hadn't scored a league goal up until they played us last week yet within 10 minutes they'd got 3! If we're trying to sign one of the best defenders in the league and another teams star player then I very much doubt we are offering terms which would allow him to walk away a week later. There is no rule to say these non contract terms are obligatory and atleast a couple of the current squad are not available on a 7 day notice. The Impression I had was that while some of them will be on contracts as such, Pablo and Mills for example, will still be available on 7 days things, but wouldn't be able to move for free. I may of course be talking out of my backside. |
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Post by will on Aug 28, 2015 15:12:17 GMT
In which case could we not just reject the fee? Unless their contract has to include a minimum fee release clause?!
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