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Post by reasonabull on Aug 30, 2019 7:42:36 GMT
Hoofball is not attractive but it’s doing ok at Newport and Solihull. Doubt their fans are complaining.
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Post by Words Of One Silly Bull on Aug 30, 2019 8:11:55 GMT
I'm happy with Slade's appointment, perhaps slightly on the basis that it could have been so much worse given my fragile faith in the current Board's decision making. But he is - on paper anyway - a sound and 'proper' choice given where we are and where we want to be. Hopefully, he'll be a success and I'll wish him all the best, but if not, then I won't criticise the Board on this one, as it's the kind of sensible and rational appointment we all expected, and indeed deserved, when Beadle was so controversially sacked and then our misery compounded with the installation of a frankly bizarre replacement regime.
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Post by Peroni on Aug 30, 2019 8:19:26 GMT
Hoofball is what costs managers their jobs as it isn't effective for long. So Slade will be under pressure to play football as he should be with his experience. There is hoofball and hoofball though. Beadle played direct into front men then allowed midfielders to press the play in the final third. Richards relied on hoof upfield for on unsupported front 3 to do the job. Slade iirc is of a similar ilk to Beadle.....offensive hoofball rather than defensive hoofball. With Nicholson/TOE behind a front 2 this may work....but might not be pretty in its build up.... or if he thinks Liburd can hold it up!or a new alternative, me wonders
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Post by Peroni on Aug 30, 2019 8:22:44 GMT
Excellent appointment which the Board should be applauded for. A proper football man with a proper contacts book. On a par, to my mind, with a certain Mr Johnson (not that one) at Torquay but you liked marco as well !
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Post by A Bull on Aug 30, 2019 8:29:49 GMT
So here it is, Merry Christmas, Everybody's having fun. Look to the future now, It's only just begun...
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Post by dixiemac on Aug 30, 2019 9:27:48 GMT
I think your own immediate reaction is important. I’m pleased He’s a Wiley old fox. The times we played Scarborough in the early naughties away (local for me) they outplayed us. My memory was being outfought in midfield and he always had a driving creative midfielder and a couple of big target men He out thought us and seemed tactically astute Certainly didn’t see that appointment coming Richards/Harris wasn’t going to work as it hasn’t for a year I wanted to give them a chance but when you don’t have supporters backing you have win every week to turn the tide of pessimism and after Chester that killed it I think Tim is a decent man but we need savvy experienced ex league managers who have worked at a higher level The last 12 months have felt like we were following Gloucester Rovers
Good luck Russ
Very optimistic
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Post by changeabull on Aug 30, 2019 10:45:28 GMT
First post and it will probably be as welcome as a fart in a phonebox given the other positive reactions to the new manager. I'm a Grimsby supporter but married to a bulls fan so I've been watching them for years. I think I started at Forest Green on a Friday night when Paul Parry had a blinder and the bulls won about 7-1. We traipsed around the Midlands to Quorn, Loughborough, Boldmere etc, etc. Last game was York away in the rain but Mrs fishy bull went to King's Lynn the other week. This is not a post from a disgruntled fan of another club with points to score. To say we were pleased that Slade was sacked at Blundell park is an understatement, he has been a decent manager but is now a dinosaur. It was genuinely thought that he'd struggle to get another job in football. He got the job here as he was a mate of our chairman. The football was turgid, and never mind a plan b, it often didn't look like there was a plan a. He does have extensive contacts in the game. Mainly under the letter J for journeyman in his filofax. Some of this deadwood can be expensive to maintain and difficult to remove without great expense. If I'm wrong and he gets it right I'll be back on here and apologize, my life is better when the bulls are doing well but I'm concerned that the lanyard gang have made a poor call here. I genuinely think that a better appointment could have been made. Just as a player can look a world beater in the Southern League yet out of his depth in Conference South (eg Mills & Heysham) so can a manager who's struggled in the Football League lead a club to a Conference North/ South title (eg Gary Johnson).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 10:50:05 GMT
A very good appointment. Old Pals Network.
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Post by castlebull on Aug 30, 2019 10:51:09 GMT
We may have to endure a bit of hoofball, but we're used to that. It’s interesting reading online comments from other teams he’s been at. Orient fans suggest he’s a great manager that had them playing quick, passing football. Other people have said it’s sideways, sideways, sideways. Then Coventry and Grimsby fans have nowt positive to say about him at all. In short I’d like to think he’s going to respond to the squad we’ve got which does have the potential to play the ball on the deck. As others have pointed out, both managers HFC have had this far have resorted to ‘hoofball’ but in slightly different ways and crowds have stayed fairly consistent.
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Post by harrythehaddock on Aug 30, 2019 12:43:45 GMT
Gy fan in peace - have to say that my reaction was the same as many other Town fans a) how the hell has he got another job? and b) feeling immediately sorry for Hereford fans and club, which i always enjoyed going to. I can only echo what the previous Mariner said i.e. he's a dinosaur who's best years were 10 years ago. his second time around with us was a complete disaster, which it's taken Michael Jolley 18 months to make good.He was sacked about 3 months too late and with him in charge we were sliding towards the conference without even a whimper. Out of Slade's side 18 months ago only Mckeown(a club legend )and Vernam survive, which says it all. The only other survivors are a reserve centre forward and harry clifton, who Slade refused to play, but who Jolley immediately put in the side and has gone on to become a regular and a welsh under 21 midfielder. We were given ample warning by Cov fans and they weren't far wrong. i still struggle to see what plan Slade had, if indeed, he had one at all. The players were unfit and looked beaten before they even started a game. Some of the players he signed were just utter gash - paul Dixon and Sam kelly will give Town fans the shivers for many years to come. the other problem you've got is that Slade hasn't been involved in non league football for 20 years, and i've always thought that successful Conference managers tend to be of that level or on the way up. As i said i like Hereford as a place and club so i wish no ill and i hope i'm wrong, but i get the feeling you've made the wrong chice. Would love 1 or 2 of you to keep us updated on our forum The Fishy, you'll get a sympathetic welcome!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 12:56:51 GMT
A lot of these comments, though I'm sure well-meaning, are not exactly comparing apples with apples. This is National League North where there will be far less experienced managers. Must count for something.
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Post by changeabull on Aug 30, 2019 13:12:36 GMT
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Post by Words Of One Silly Bull on Aug 30, 2019 13:35:39 GMT
In the interests of balance, whilst welcoming the comments of our friends in Grimsby, I feel I should share the thoughts of an Orient season ticket holder and former colleague of mine in London, who spoke very highly of Slade during his 4 years there. Just checked his record with the O's it was very impressive, coming in late during the 2009-10 season and saving them from relegation and then followed that with two 7th placed finishes and missing the League 1 pay-offs by a point in the next 3 years before finally getting them to the brink of the Championship in the 2013-14 season where they cruelly lost the Wembley Play-Off Final on pens. He was awarded League One Manager of the Year that year, an award he also won with Yeovil in 2007. That earned him a job with Cardiff in the Championship and although he may not have been their most popular manager their finishes of 8th and 11th weren't a complete disaster. Things do seem to have gone downhill for him since leaving Cardiff in 2016, but make no mistake, for a Club at our level, he has a very impressive cv. And no, I'm not his agent!
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Post by reasonabull on Aug 30, 2019 13:58:35 GMT
Personally I'm only interested in what he does for us not what he's done for others in the past!
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Post by Peroni on Aug 30, 2019 14:08:32 GMT
In the interests of balance, whilst welcoming the comments of our friends in Grimsby, I feel I should share the thoughts of an Orient season ticket holder and former colleague of mine in London, who spoke very highly of Slade during his 4 years there. Just checked his record with the O's it was very impressive, coming in late during the 2009-10 season and saving them from relegation and then followed that with two 7th placed finishes and missing the League 1 pay-offs by a point in the next 3 years before finally getting them to the brink of the Championship in the 2013-14 season where they cruelly lost the Wembley Play-Off Final on pens. He was awarded League One Manager of the Year that year, an award he also won with Yeovil in 2007. That earned him a job with Cardiff in the Championship and although he may not have been their most popular manager their finishes of 8th and 11th weren't a complete disaster. Things do seem to have gone downhill for him since leaving Cardiff in 2016, but make no mistake, for a Club at our level, he has a very impressive cv. And no, I'm not his agent! SIL ?
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Post by youngsalmon on Aug 30, 2019 14:26:35 GMT
All in all this seems like a good appointment but like any manager he will be judged on results and like any manager when he gets a string of bad results he will be judged on his style of football. It happens to the best of them and it happens to the worst of them.
I'm hopeful. As WW says his experience should serve him well in this league.
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Post by somnambulist on Aug 30, 2019 14:30:31 GMT
Another bloody PE teacher!
Just kidding. I'm cautiously optimistic about this appointment. He seems an intelligent bloke, and he has had undoubted successes in his career. The poorer periods don't concern me unduly. There's an alchemy to football management that I don't quite understand; good managers can have bad periods. He's seems optimistic about the players under him and I'm sure has good contacts in the game for any necessary additions.
I shall be quizzing Orient fans about him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 14:42:14 GMT
Great first interview. Comes across as a quality bloke who doesn't feel the need to tell us that he knows what he is doing - it is assumed. I look forward to seeing what he can do with the squad we have and will resume my C block seat at the earliest opportunity.
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Post by Incognito on Aug 30, 2019 15:41:53 GMT
Good to see him out chatting with the youngsters at the HFC summer camp today.
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Post by reasonabull on Aug 30, 2019 17:49:19 GMT
Haven't seen it stated officially if he's full time or not.
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