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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 22:59:19 GMT
a) if you were never against the idea of seeing the A of As, why did you spend every waking hour shouting down those who wanted to see a draft of copy of them? 2) don't you think it would've been better if your ingenious idea of HUST having equal power (once shares have been purchased) was stated within the original A of As, rather than waiting until the horse had bolted? iii) do you not feel that it this castration of power which is the precise reason why nobody is stepping forward for the HUST board roles? Well, that and the mind bending process which is in place that allows the 'Class A' shareholders of HFC to choose the clubs HUST representatives rather than the HUST members themselves. Crazy I didn't see him shouting people down that much, in fact I would say he was simply the opposite of you in terms of passion in providing an alternate view. For every point you stated attacking the AofA he would pop up with the completely counter argument/viewpoint. Yes, he was an argumentative sod but 'pot kettle' surely? Now back to you and Graham running for office.....you both want whats best for Hereford, two sandpits or one? I don't recall trying to divide the fan base by using unhelpful terms such as 'WUMs' and 'dissenters'. Nor did I revert to talking about onions or posting pictures of flowers when I couldn't be bothered to answer a question!
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Post by 2kilts28 on Aug 24, 2015 23:03:27 GMT
I had an old boss who if you complained too much about a specific department you'd inevitably end up in that department. Was effective in its own way, but my point is in total agreement of the various statements on this page, the energy expended on here and BB by just a few people would be a mighty tide to ensure the pen remains mightier than the sword. I will be over for the Shepshed Dynamo game and Ill do my bit and e-mail the various HUST members for a quick 10 minute chat over a beer, before or after the game to I can ask some questions. Can I officially call myself Chairman of The Expats, or would that get me into mischief? If you want to be chairman of the expats you'll need to go through the voting process. If I were to vote for you I'd expect an official weekly newsletter, some pin badges designed by that fella and his two sons who made the official HFC badge and hefty discounts with airlines when travelling to a match. Oh, and a couple of free pints and a round of cheese sandwiches on arrival at Addison Us expats are minted mate, you are selling us short. We could buy Addison's and make it the new headquarters of Overseas Bulls, then worm our way into HUST, take leadership roles, buy up any spare shares to take control, get board positions and re-launch the new fan controlled Hereford Soccer Club. Sounds good?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 23:04:48 GMT
a) if you were never against the idea of seeing the A of As, why did you spend every waking hour shouting down those who wanted to see a draft of copy of them? 2) don't you think it would've been better if your ingenious idea of HUST having equal power (once shares have been purchased) was stated within the original A of As, rather than waiting until the horse had bolted? iii) do you not feel that it this castration of power which is the precise reason why nobody is stepping forward for the HUST board roles? Well, that and the mind bending process which is in place that allows the 'Class A' shareholders of HFC to choose the clubs HUST representatives rather than the HUST members themselves. Crazy I didn't see him shouting people down that much, in fact I would say he was simply the opposite of you in terms of passion in providing an alternate view. For every point you stated attacking the AofA he would pop up with the completely counter argument/viewpoint. Yes, he was an argumentative sod but 'pot kettle' surely? Now back to you and Graham running for office.....you both want whats best for Hereford, two sandpits or one?
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Post by 2kilts28 on Aug 24, 2015 23:05:03 GMT
I didn't see him shouting people down that much, in fact I would say he was simply the opposite of you in terms of passion in providing an alternate view. For every point you stated attacking the AofA he would pop up with the completely counter argument/viewpoint. Yes, he was an argumentative sod but 'pot kettle' surely? Now back to you and Graham running for office.....you both want whats best for Hereford, two sandpits or one? I don't recall trying to divide the fan base by using unhelpful terms such as 'WUMs' and 'dissenters'. Nor did I revert to talking about onions or posting pictures of flowers when I couldn't be bothered to answer a question! Mate, I think you are a decent poster, as is Graham, I enjoy reading some of the back and forth, but you have been more than capable of dishing out what you receive!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 23:08:14 GMT
I don't recall trying to divide the fan base by using unhelpful terms such as 'WUMs' and 'dissenters'. Nor did I revert to talking about onions or posting pictures of flowers when I couldn't be bothered to answer a question! Mate, I think you are a decent poster, as is Graham, I enjoy reading some of the back and forth, but you have been more than capable of dishing out what you receive!! Yes, I do not suffer fools gladly. Nor complete tossers for that matter.
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Post by 2kilts28 on Aug 24, 2015 23:07:55 GMT
I didn't see him shouting people down that much, in fact I would say he was simply the opposite of you in terms of passion in providing an alternate view. For every point you stated attacking the AofA he would pop up with the completely counter argument/viewpoint. Yes, he was an argumentative sod but 'pot kettle' surely? Now back to you and Graham running for office.....you both want whats best for Hereford, two sandpits or one?
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Post by 2kilts28 on Aug 24, 2015 23:10:25 GMT
Mate, I think you are a decent poster, as is Graham, I enjoy reading some of the back and forth, but you have been more than capable of dishing out what you receive!! Yes, I do not suffer fools gladly. Nor complete tossers for that matter.
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Post by Thank You Archie Phillips on Aug 24, 2015 23:11:42 GMT
Oh no not again. Here's hoping that's shallot.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 23:13:14 GMT
If you want to be chairman of the expats you'll need to go through the voting process. If I were to vote for you I'd expect an official weekly newsletter, some pin badges designed by that fella and his two sons who made the official HFC badge and hefty discounts with airlines when travelling to a match. Oh, and a couple of free pints and a round of cheese sandwiches on arrival at Addison Us expats are minted mate, you are selling us short. We could buy Addison's and make it the new headquarters of Overseas Bulls, then worm our way into HUST, take leadership roles, buy up any spare shares to take control, get board positions and re-launch the new fan controlled Hereford Soccer Club. Sounds good? I would be prepared to go with your plan but I've go a few problems. 1. I'm about as minted as an orange tic tac b. I'll only worm my way into HUST if Watson and Williams step down iii. I'd only be prepared to buy those high class investor shares. I don't want any of those riff-raff HUST shares which aren't worth the paper they are not written on.
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Post by jc on Aug 24, 2015 23:15:50 GMT
If you want to be chairman of the expats you'll need to go through the voting process. If I were to vote for you I'd expect an official weekly newsletter, some pin badges designed by that fella and his two sons who made the official HFC badge and hefty discounts with airlines when travelling to a match. Oh, and a couple of free pints and a round of cheese sandwiches on arrival at Addison We could buy Addison's and make it the new headquarters of Overseas Bulls, then worm our way into HUST, take leadership roles, buy up any spare shares to take control, get board positions and re-launch the new fan controlled Hereford Soccer Club. Sounds good? The use of the word "Soccer" on here is likely to get you moderated! ?
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Post by 2kilts28 on Aug 24, 2015 23:17:25 GMT
We could buy Addison's and make it the new headquarters of Overseas Bulls, then worm our way into HUST, take leadership roles, buy up any spare shares to take control, get board positions and re-launch the new fan controlled Hereford Soccer Club. Sounds good? The use of the word "Soccer" on here is likely to get you moderated! ? That was somewhat my intent....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 23:17:36 GMT
Good job they shut down the forum then, one less job to worry about.
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Post by 2kilts28 on Aug 24, 2015 23:24:19 GMT
Us expats are minted mate, you are selling us short. We could buy Addison's and make it the new headquarters of Overseas Bulls, then worm our way into HUST, take leadership roles, buy up any spare shares to take control, get board positions and re-launch the new fan controlled Hereford Soccer Club. Sounds good? I would be prepared to go with your plan but I've go a few problems. 1. I'm about as minted as an orange tic tac b. I'll only worm my way into HUST if Watson and Williams step down iii. I'd only be prepared to buy those high class investor shares. I don't want any of those riff-raff HUST shares which aren't worth the paper they are not written on. Those aint problems, just challenges laddie! I plan to create a new share program called "Rich Opulent Yanks", or the ROY. The Roy will only be sold on leap years on the sands of Bodom Beach. It won't be however be listed on the NYSE as the bull markets are finished.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 23:31:01 GMT
Aye, good idea. Wait for the bounce. Or list them, short sell them and buy them back on the bounce at DJI 10,000.
I'll be mintier than than a really minty trebor mint.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 23:39:17 GMT
Reading this thread and I've come to the conclusion that none of you are suitable candidates.
You're all off your flamin' heads!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 23:49:22 GMT
And by that time we could start buying up loads of junk mortgage backed securities, get our mates to give them AAA ratings and sell them to some unsuspecting banks for huge profits. We then buy up loads of cheap 1year bonds from a failing Portugal and when they can't pay us back we take Ronaldo and ten other Portuguese internationals in exchange for the debt. We then find accomodation in Hereford and part time jobs in the chicko for them and watch HFC storm their way to the premiershit.
Plan?
Ok, sod the cheese butties, you get my vote for the chairman of the ex pats
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Post by lexington on Aug 25, 2015 0:21:06 GMT
And by that time we could start buying up loads of junk mortgage backed securities, get our mates to give them AAA ratings and sell them to some unsuspecting banks for huge profits. We then buy up loads of cheap 1year bonds from a failing Portugal and when they can't pay us back we take Ronaldo and ten other Portuguese internationals in exchange for the debt. We then find accomodation in Hereford and part time jobs in the chicko for them and watch HFC storm their way to the premiershit. Plan? Ok, sod the cheese butties, you get my vote for the chairman of the ex pats Been there before bullsnews.blogspot.com/2014/12/9m-lonsdale-bond-virtually-worthless.htmlProb best not to buy something only fit for wiping your harris on. EDIT: With regard to HUST, some good suggestions above. Fail to plan, plan to fail as wise Mun once said.
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Post by 2kilts28 on Aug 25, 2015 0:55:21 GMT
And by that time we could start buying up loads of junk mortgage backed securities, get our mates to give them AAA ratings and sell them to some unsuspecting banks for huge profits. We then buy up loads of cheap 1year bonds from a failing Portugal and when they can't pay us back we take Ronaldo and ten other Portuguese internationals in exchange for the debt. We then find accomodation in Hereford and part time jobs in the chicko for them and watch HFC storm their way to the premiershit. Plan? Ok, sod the cheese butties, you get my vote for the chairman of the ex pats That's good you win expat quip of the day, have a Roy and take vice chair. Meet me in the Cayman Islands for our first strategy meeting and so I can open up your offshore account for cider & lease siphoning. Should be a good jaunt.....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 6:47:50 GMT
Murray is all mouth, he won't stand for anything. People moan at Chris Williams, but I'd love to see someone come forward and take over his role on the HFC board, ie be responsible for Health and Safety. And run HUST at the same time. And do a full time job as well. Look, I'm not going to stand. The reason I responded as I did is because I was asked about it. But to be fair, I honestly would stand if I could see that there was going to be a clear change of direction. I am not the man to attempt to change the direction on my own, especially as it appears many do not even think a change is necessary. I would add that it would be exactly the sort of disaster that HFC would love if you were somehow to make it on to the HUST board.
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Post by spiritofradford on Aug 25, 2015 7:15:28 GMT
If HUST members aren't happy with the direction the organisation us going in they need to act to change it not walk away. All HUST members are free to stand for key positions, to table questions and to propose motions. HUISA became stale because not enough people cared enough to stop it happening. If that happens with HUST we will only have ourselves to blame. Maybe you should ask how some of the 6 HUST board members who recently resigned feel about the balance within the HUST board room? Personally, I think if nobody is going to stand down then a vote of no confidence would be best displayed by fans not renewing membership. Whereas if those 6 felt they shared similar feelings about the direction the organisation was going in or should be going in then rather than step down they could and probably should have used their voting rights to change things. It doesn't matter who is on the board now. HUST is constitutionally a democratic organisation. If enough new boards members are elected with differing views to those currently in place then their votes will swing the pendulum. If you want any current member to stand down you use your membership rights and votes at the AGM to try to achieve this. You don't change an organisation like HUST from the outside. You have to pee inside the tent! All those people talking about not renewing or not standing because they don't like what is currently happening should bear in mind the following. If the current conspiracy theories that are flying about really are true (and I am not expressing a personal opinion about this), if indeed HUST has simpy been a vehicle for the current HFC board members to "grab" the football club, then a weakened HUST actually strengthens their positions. Whatever you feel about how much fans "own" HFC now, with a weakened HUST they "own" even less. If a HUST representative on the clubs board needs to be removed and the HFC board aren't going to remove them then it is down to HUST members to vote them off the HUST board. If you aren't on the HUST board you can't represent HUST within the HFC board, simple. So, in short. If you want change, make change happen. Use your membership. Stand or use your vote for and against those that do. Give it up and you no longer have any say other than venting hot air on places like this.
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