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Post by Armchairfan on Oct 28, 2024 17:44:13 GMT
Not going to start a poll as there has already been one. I am really struggling to see the point in rebranding the club at this time. Even if the club’s figures are incorrect (£30k) and the Bring Back United figure of £10k is more accurate, what is the value for money here? It’s an awful lot of work for the club office, isn’t going to put a single extra bum on a seat and strikes me as a fairly meaningless nod to the past. can anyone give me a single good reason to restore United. I think we can probably all accept that it’s to all intents and purposes the same club. Without the debts… See what you've done now!!!
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Post by colebridgebull on Oct 28, 2024 17:57:02 GMT
I know.
FFS CB. Have a word with myself
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Post by humbull on Oct 28, 2024 18:00:18 GMT
Another thing. The discussion about whether it makes sense, whether there's a justification other than 'it'd be nice'. I personally think 'it'd be nice' is a perfectly good reason. We're talking about watching some blokes kick a football around in a regional league. If we all did the thing that made the most sense we'd be off watching Wolves or Villa or Man city. We find joy in following the story of our small but glorious team, where the lows are frequent, but every now and then there's a moment, a goal, a win, where - unexplainably - you get the highest of highs from watching what is often objectively terrible football. It makes no sense, but it doesn't need to - because it matters to us and that's all that important. We're all here for reasons other than just seeing football, we're here for the story behind it, and the name is an integral part of the story. Our story has always been called Hereford United. You have turned my opinion Differentiable. Good post.
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Oct 28, 2024 18:32:49 GMT
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Post by statlerandwaldorf on Oct 28, 2024 18:32:49 GMT
Just a six figure sum if memory serves. 🤔🙄 The conclusion was that it would have cost B******** approx. £700k to gain 60% ownership of the club".(Taking out DK, DP, NN and GT shareholding). Another 8 or 9 significant shareholders - like (well-known names, here, et al), would have taken B******** up to 75%.
Previous wannabes like E****, Mc and S K had only 345 shares each.
The reason B******** would have only required £700k, and even then not necessarily on Day One is because the creditors were not trying to kill the club.
The timeline for fund was:
a) the unpaid wages and football creditors £148k to be paid by Conference AGM (7/6/2014);
b) the HMRC £120k - though DK had paved the way for a repayment plan with them;
c) other trade creditors £150k and other directors' loans to NN and DP (£105K) as and when.
Approx. half of the trade creditors needed to be paid immediately".
"The club's debts were used as the reason to kill HUFC (1939) Ltd. The club's debts were worse (£1.6m) in 2003 than in 2014".You're welcome. Ah, so at least a six figure sum. Thank you for confirming I was right. It was unpayable whichever way you want to paint it.
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Oct 28, 2024 18:35:08 GMT
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Post by statlerandwaldorf on Oct 28, 2024 18:35:08 GMT
£300,000 too much. He should have taking a flying jump.
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Oct 28, 2024 18:53:19 GMT
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Post by Marty Kilpeck on Oct 28, 2024 18:53:19 GMT
Calling FC 'United' would be a like saying that the West Bank and Gaza are now just 'Israel'. Only you've already killed the Palestinians so there's hardly anyone left to complain. Get rid of the FC by all means. It's tacky and shit. Don't pretend to be something you're not. It's tacky and shit. You are well versed in talking that. We are talking about a lowly English football club, one you don't even support, just whine on about continuously. Have for a decade. You only say that because you have nothing to come back with to justify what happened. Deep down, you know. You feel shit about it. Don't take it out on me. I'm just saying what happened.
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Oct 28, 2024 19:40:19 GMT
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Post by tigerfeet on Oct 28, 2024 19:40:19 GMT
You are well versed in talking that. We are talking about a lowly English football club, one you don't even support, just whine on about continuously. Have for a decade. You only say that because you have nothing to come back with to justify what happened. Deep down, you know. You feel shit about it. Don't take it out on me. I'm just saying what happened.
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Oct 28, 2024 20:00:39 GMT
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Post by chalkywhite81 on Oct 28, 2024 20:00:39 GMT
'Hereford United FC' could be a way to appease people.
After all that's the name sung in one of the clubs biggest anthems.
The link to history AND recognition of the huge amount of work done and success achieved by the Phoenix club.
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Oct 28, 2024 20:02:39 GMT
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Post by Marty Kilpeck on Oct 28, 2024 20:02:39 GMT
You only say that because you have nothing to come back with to justify what happened. Deep down, you know. You feel shit about it. Don't take it out on me. I'm just saying what happened.
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Post by White Lightning on Oct 28, 2024 20:15:34 GMT
You are well versed in talking that. We are talking about a lowly English football club, one you don't even support, just whine on about continuously. Have for a decade. You only say that because you have nothing to come back with to justify what happened. Deep down, you know. You feel shit about it. Don't take it out on me. I'm just saying what happened. Why do I need to justify what happened? A great day Saturday. A fair few out. Even saw MT who was without his hat, that is how glorious the day was. The Ceesay header looks even better on the video than it did in real time.
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Post by somnambulist on Oct 28, 2024 20:29:16 GMT
Another thing. The discussion about whether it makes sense, whether there's a justification other than 'it'd be nice'. I personally think 'it'd be nice' is a perfectly good reason. We're talking about watching some blokes kick a football around in a regional league. If we all did the thing that made the most sense we'd be off watching Wolves or Villa or Man city. We find joy in following the story of our small but glorious team, where the lows are frequent, but every now and then there's a moment, a goal, a win, where - unexplainably - you get the highest of highs from watching what is often objectively terrible football. It makes no sense, but it doesn't need to - because it matters to us and that's all that important. We're all here for reasons other than just seeing football, we're here for the story behind it, and the name is an integral part of the story. Our story has always been called Hereford United. Great post. Entirely agree.
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Oct 28, 2024 20:55:30 GMT
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Post by Marty Kilpeck on Oct 28, 2024 20:55:30 GMT
You only say that because you have nothing to come back with to justify what happened. Deep down, you know. You feel shit about it. Don't take it out on me. I'm just saying what happened. Why do I need to justify what happened? A great day Saturday. A fair few out. Even saw MT who was without his hat, that is how glorious the day was. The Ceesay header looks even better on the video than it did in real time. You don't have to justify what happened. I'm just saying you can't. So all you can do is randomly blurt out that I talk shit even though you know that I am actually telling the truth in this instance. An absolutely pointless comment from you borne out of frustration of what happened. Using me as a target. Wildly flailing.
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Post by White Lightning on Oct 28, 2024 21:03:37 GMT
Why do I need to justify what happened? A great day Saturday. A fair few out. Even saw MT who was without his hat, that is how glorious the day was. The Ceesay header looks even better on the video than it did in real time. You don't have to justify what happened. I'm just saying you can't. So all you can do is randomly blurt out that I talk shit even though you know that I am actually telling the truth in this instance. An absolutely pointless comment from you borne out of frustration of what happened. Using me as a target. Wildly flailing. Why hasn't any of this been discussed before? I just needed that push to vote for United. Cheers, very helpful.
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Oct 28, 2024 21:36:07 GMT
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Post by tigerfeet on Oct 28, 2024 21:36:07 GMT
Why do I need to justify what happened? A great day Saturday. A fair few out. Even saw MT who was without his hat, that is how glorious the day was. The Ceesay header looks even better on the video than it did in real time. You don't have to justify what happened. I'm just saying you can't. So all you can do is randomly blurt out that I talk shit even though you know that I am actually telling the truth in this instance. An absolutely pointless comment from you borne out of frustration of what happened. Using me as a target. Wildly flailing.
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Oct 28, 2024 21:36:15 GMT
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Post by Marty Kilpeck on Oct 28, 2024 21:36:15 GMT
You don't have to justify what happened. I'm just saying you can't. So all you can do is randomly blurt out that I talk shit even though you know that I am actually telling the truth in this instance. An absolutely pointless comment from you borne out of frustration of what happened. Using me as a target. Wildly flailing. Why hasn't any of this been discussed before? I just needed that push to vote for United. Cheers, very helpful. Another pointless remark because you have nothing to say. The end of Hereford United has been mentioned on this thread because a new club are trying to take the name. It's not like we were discussing fish and chip shops and then the death of Hereford United was brought up.
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Oct 28, 2024 21:37:10 GMT
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Post by Marty Kilpeck on Oct 28, 2024 21:37:10 GMT
You don't have to justify what happened. I'm just saying you can't. So all you can do is randomly blurt out that I talk shit even though you know that I am actually telling the truth in this instance. An absolutely pointless comment from you borne out of frustration of what happened. Using me as a target. Wildly flailing.
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Post by White Lightning on Oct 28, 2024 21:43:38 GMT
Why hasn't any of this been discussed before? I just needed that push to vote for United. Cheers, very helpful. Another pointless remark because you have nothing to say. The end of Hereford United has been mentioned on this thread because a new club are trying to take the name. It's not like we were discussing fish and chip shops and then the death of Hereford United was brought up. Our name. You Whites.
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Post by mikeunderpenyard on Oct 29, 2024 17:55:53 GMT
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Post by organic on Oct 29, 2024 18:08:17 GMT
Very generous.
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Post by colebridgebull on Oct 29, 2024 18:17:10 GMT
Blimey. Fair play.
Incredibly generous offer.
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