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Post by chalkywhite81 on Mar 29, 2024 16:43:30 GMT
That Alfreton goal could be the final nail in the coffin.
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Post by White Lightning on Mar 29, 2024 17:18:25 GMT
The perfect set of results in a bad way?
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Post by tigerfeet on Mar 29, 2024 20:43:44 GMT
So has Martin Kilpeck again. How many flounces is that now?
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Post by GRL on Mar 29, 2024 21:39:33 GMT
Now two places below the Beadle Position. (Look it up.)
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Post by Hawkeye on Mar 29, 2024 22:46:16 GMT
Yes.
Beadle was jettisoned without ceremony and subsequent managerial appointments have been nothing short of disastrous.
Until the most recent one.
Caddis clearly has what it takes. He chose to start with a blank canvas and next season I'm convinced that he will construct a squad that will be serious contenders. Assuming that the (meaningfull) shareholders choose to back the project.
The club continues to attract the second biggest league attendance and therefore we could be excused for hoping/anticipating that the bean counters will sanction a serious attempt to climb out of the dungeon that is NLN.
If it isn't achieved next season, I fear that support will ebb away, never to be recovered.
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Post by White Lightning on Mar 30, 2024 7:05:19 GMT
It's been a funny end to the season. It feels like we lost yesterday. If I have got my bearings right, the below was where it all went wrong? Losing both wingers on the same day. I think it was that game. 8 weeks ago. We had also just offloaded Arthur and Tolley. Both of which looked worthy of stepping in when needed. They may have asked to leave? Who knows, but it left Caddis feeling he needed to completely rethink the team. My mate made what I thought was a good point at a recent game. He said that this team are at their best when things get chaotic (that is possibly true of most teams), and Ceesay when in full flow was the key player to administer that chaos. Oh well, win Monday and take the innings as deep as we can. Get down to the last over and hope we can hit a couple of sixes. We are running our of deliveries/wickets though. bullsnews.blogspot.com/2024/02/match-report-hereford-5-blyth-spartans-2.htmlbullsnews.blogspot.com/2024/02/match-report-hereford-5-blyth-spartans-2.html
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Post by White Lightning on Mar 30, 2024 7:10:20 GMT
Weird not having a Saturday game also. Yesterday/today proves that we are going to miss our Saturdays after this season finishes - whatever happens in these last few weeks. That maybe wasn't the case after the condemned players got pummelled on the last day of last season!
We need a good strategy for selling season tickets this summer as they will surely sell well.
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Post by Redragtoabull on Mar 30, 2024 9:19:22 GMT
I can’t believe how quickly the end of the season has arrived. It must be an age thing.
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Post by wyesidewiththebulls on Mar 30, 2024 9:44:44 GMT
Why all this talk of the end of the season? Still 8 games to play, 5 league matches, Eliminator B against the 4th placed side, a semi final and Promotion Final. Have not heard a "fat lady" singing yet!
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Post by GRL on Mar 30, 2024 9:44:56 GMT
Yes. Beadle was jettisoned without ceremony and subsequent managerial appointments have been nothing short of disastrous. Until the most recent one. Caddis clearly has what it takes. He chose to start with a blank canvas and next season I'm convinced that he will construct a squad that will be serious contenders. Assuming that the (meaningfull) shareholders choose to back the project. The club continues to attract the second biggest league attendance and therefore we could be excused for hoping/anticipating that the bean counters will sanction a serious attempt to climb out of the dungeon that is NLN. If it isn't achieved next season, I fear that support will ebb away, never to be recovered. He had one this season, in my opinion, but three centre backs at home has cost us points. "meaningful."
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Post by tigerfeet on Mar 30, 2024 9:51:35 GMT
We need a good strategy for selling season tickets this summer as they will surely sell well. Free souvenir piece of the Blackfriars End with every season ticket sold?
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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Mar 30, 2024 10:11:22 GMT
Yes. Beadle was jettisoned without ceremony and subsequent managerial appointments have been nothing short of disastrous. Until the most recent one. Caddis clearly has what it takes. He chose to start with a blank canvas and next season I'm convinced that he will construct a squad that will be serious contenders. Assuming that the (meaningfull) shareholders choose to back the project. The club continues to attract the second biggest league attendance and therefore we could be excused for hoping/anticipating that the bean counters will sanction a serious attempt to climb out of the dungeon that is NLN. If it isn't achieved next season, I fear that support will ebb away, never to be recovered. Not necessarily. Apart from the small number of ‘every weekers whatever is happening’, folk go to football for two reasons. To watch a winning team, or to be entertained. I would offer that for most of us, it’s both, and with a range of thresholds. Would also offer that if we can see progress, even if only modest, those thresholds may be a little lower. We’d be more inclined to stick with it. I would also offer that our club has a far bigger latent fan base than most, the extra 600-odd this season despite only fleetingly being in the top seven, would back that up - we are a more winning and more entertaining side, progress has been made. If we’re in NLN (or NLS, please) next season, and more progress is shown, I’d be expecting to see gates holding up, or even further improving. Turner’s side of Tamika, Stansfield, Willo et al took several seasons to be promoted, but the support didn’t ebb away then, did it.
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Post by jimcarrey on Mar 30, 2024 10:18:33 GMT
We need a good strategy for selling season tickets this summer as they will surely sell well. Free souvenir piece of the Blackfriars End with every season ticket sold? If this happens can I have the old score board with mine please? I’ve always wanted to affix something to my car so I can post messages to the vehicles behind such as ‘If you get any closer I’m going to need a tin opener to get out of my fecking car’ and such like Any messages would be supplied by voice by myself rather than typing of course which would thus keep me within the law.
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Post by Hawkeye on Mar 30, 2024 11:11:29 GMT
Yes. Beadle was jettisoned without ceremony and subsequent managerial appointments have been nothing short of disastrous. Until the most recent one. Caddis clearly has what it takes. He chose to start with a blank canvas and next season I'm convinced that he will construct a squad that will be serious contenders. Assuming that the (meaningfull) shareholders choose to back the project. The club continues to attract the second biggest league attendance and therefore we could be excused for hoping/anticipating that the bean counters will sanction a serious attempt to climb out of the dungeon that is NLN. If it isn't achieved next season, I fear that support will ebb away, never to be recovered. Not necessarily. Apart from the small number of ‘every weekers whatever is happening’, folk go to football for two reasons. To watch a winning team, or to be entertained. I would offer that for most of us, it’s both, and with a range of thresholds. Would also offer that if we can see progress, even if only modest, those thresholds may be a little lower. We’d be more inclined to stick with it. I would also offer that our club has a far bigger latent fan base than most, the extra 600-odd this season despite only fleetingly being in the top seven, would back that up - we are a more winning and more entertaining side, progress has been made. If we’re in NLN (or NLS, please) next season, and more progress is shown, I’d be expecting to see gates holding up, or even further improving. Turner’s side of Tamika, Stansfield, Willo et al took several seasons to be promoted, but the support didn’t ebb away then, did it. Fair points well made. However, Turner was at the helm here for quite a long time. I'm not sure Caddis will be, much as I would love it if he were. Whenever he moves on to a bigger project, his will be difficult shoes to fill. So, as we discovered, were Turner's, in terms of both the boardroom, and the dugout.
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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Mar 30, 2024 11:52:56 GMT
Not necessarily. Apart from the small number of ‘every weekers whatever is happening’, folk go to football for two reasons. To watch a winning team, or to be entertained. I would offer that for most of us, it’s both, and with a range of thresholds. Would also offer that if we can see progress, even if only modest, those thresholds may be a little lower. We’d be more inclined to stick with it. I would also offer that our club has a far bigger latent fan base than most, the extra 600-odd this season despite only fleetingly being in the top seven, would back that up - we are a more winning and more entertaining side, progress has been made. If we’re in NLN (or NLS, please) next season, and more progress is shown, I’d be expecting to see gates holding up, or even further improving. Turner’s side of Tamika, Stansfield, Willo et al took several seasons to be promoted, but the support didn’t ebb away then, did it. Fair points well made. However, Turner was at the helm here for quite a long time. I'm not sure Caddis will be, much as I would love it if he were. Whenever he moves on to a bigger project, his will be difficult shoes to fill. So, as we discovered, were Turner's, in terms of both the boardroom, and the dugout. Yes true, Turner was exceptional in most departments, and had been in the game longer than Caddis. Agree however, that on available evidence, Mr Caddis might be tempted away to bigger things, and who would blame him. He does though, assuming we’re in tier six next season, have that notoriously tricky ‘second album’ to negotiate. Hope it’s an absolute banger, a Back to Black or a Nevermind would be nice.
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Post by White Lightning on Apr 2, 2024 8:54:13 GMT
Just for the crack... Current Table
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/national-league-north/table(Position/Team/Played/Points) 5th Alfreton 42 70 6th Curzon Ashton 43 70 7th Boston 42 68 --------------------- 8th South Shields 43 68 9th Spennymoor 42 67 10th Chester 43 65 11th Hereford 42 63 Potential Season End TableSo this is based upon them accruing points at their existing run rate until the end of the season (the potential results in brackets in no particular order), not perfect but seems reasonable (see also Boston, the only team we can directly influence). 5th Alfreton 46 76 (WWDL) 6th Curzon Ashton 46 75 (WDD) 7th Boston 45 73 (WDD) --------------------- 8th South Shields 46 73 (WDDL) 9th Spennymoor 46 73 (WWLL) 10th Chester 46 70 (WDD) Obviously that is probably nonsense, and the last few rounds of any league are a gamblers graveyard, but that doesn't seem wild. Whilst one team could implode, they won't all implode. So we would need to beat Banbury/Scunny/Warrington to go into the last match on 72 points and potentially dislodge Boston passing South Shields and Spennymoor in the process (I have left Boston on 45 games as they are the only team we can have a direct influence over). Goal difference will likely kill us even if 73 was the magic number (three wins and a draw). So until the fat lady etc. but not looking that likely at all. Us failing to win yesterday will have cost Banbury a few quid as we won't take loads tomorrow night surely. I think we have been unlucky this season in two ways, the threshold is likely to be unusually high, and we have been unlucky with injuries. Not the injury prone players that we took on (Lyden/Downing), but losing both Cowley* and Williams** at the start, and the two wingers nearer the end. We just have to take luck out of it next season. Go for it, that will be Caddis' flying lap assuming no one poaches him. *Although I think if you look at Cowley's career stats I don't believe he is an ever present sort of player. **I don't think Williams was injury prone was he before this season? Although as me ma says "old age don't come alone".
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Post by Hawkeye on Apr 2, 2024 10:27:36 GMT
Just for the crack... Current Table
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/national-league-north/table(Position/Team/Played/Points) 5th Alfreton 42 70 6th Curzon Ashton 43 70 7th Boston 42 68 --------------------- 8th South Shields 43 68 9th Spennymoor 42 67 10th Chester 43 65 11th Hereford 42 63 Potential Season End TableSo this is based upon them accruing points at their existing run rate until the end of the season (the potential results in brackets in no particular order), not perfect but seems reasonable (see also Boston, the only team we can directly influence). 5th Alfreton 46 76 (WWDL) 6th Curzon Ashton 46 75 (WDD) 7th Boston 45 73 (WDD) --------------------- 8th South Shields 46 73 (WDDL) 9th Spennymoor 46 73 (WWLL) 10th Chester 46 70 (WDD) Obviously that is probably nonsense, and the last few rounds of any league are a gamblers graveyard, but that doesn't seem wild. Whilst one team could implode, they won't all implode. So we would need to beat Banbury/Scunny/Warrington to go into the last match on 72 points and potentially dislodge Boston passing South Shields and Spennymoor in the process (I have left Boston on 45 games as they are the only team we can have a direct influence over). Goal difference will likely kill us even if 73 was the magic number (three wins and a draw). So until the fat lady etc. but not looking that likely at all. Us failing to win yesterday will have cost Banbury a few quid as we won't take loads tomorrow night surely. I think we have been unlucky this season in two ways, the threshold is likely to be unusually high, and we have been unlucky with injuries. Not the injury prone players that we took on (Lyden/Downing), but losing both Cowley* and Williams** at the start, and the two wingers nearer the end. We just have to take luck out of it next season. Go for it, that will be Caddis' flying lap assuming no one poaches him. *Although I think if you look at Cowley's career stats I don't believe he is an ever present sort of player. **I don't think Williams was injury prone was he before this season? Although as me ma says "old age don't come alone". Craic! ☺️ And trust me, yer ma is 100% right on that one.
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Post by White Lightning on Apr 2, 2024 11:13:40 GMT
I was going to spell it right and then nah, keep Hawkeye busy with that and away from the maffs and logic.
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Post by onlooker on Apr 2, 2024 11:25:31 GMT
I did a similar exercise to WL but less scientific. I assumed that the challenging teams with four matches to play would win two and lose two, and those with three to play would win one, draw one and lose one. As most of the challengers have a match against one of the others challenging or already qualified this seemed a reasonable supposition. On this basis the final positions would be;
5th Alfreton 76 6th Boston 74 7th Curzon Ashton 74 (worse GD than Boston) 8th Spennymoor 73 9th South Shields 72
Hence my statement on the other thread that Hereford might succeed with 75 points, although this is a big ask. Chester could also sneak in with maximum points giving them 74 points and a probable superior GD to Curzon Ashton. Another big ask.
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Post by tigerfeet on Apr 4, 2024 9:05:56 GMT
Just three games to go and we're still in with a chance of promotion. I'd have taken that at the start of the season, wouldn't you?
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