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Post by mikeunderpenyard on Oct 8, 2021 18:36:22 GMT
Kelvin Phillips, Declon Rice, Mason Mount,etc, etc.
If they're good enough, they'll get the opportunity to prove it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 19:12:23 GMT
When one comments about the absurd diversity of teams in the upper reaches, the usual suspects start complaining. There are too many foreigners in every team. "Oh no there aren't," says Hereward The Woke on here. English youngsters need the aspiration of playing in those top teams. When they see those top teams comprising ten foreigners, it's hardly surprising they go skateboarding, is it? If we're going to start racially abusing the Saudis we might as well start on the rest. We need more Jarrod Bowens.Why? To simply put more English qualified kids on the PL pitch of a weekend? How would that help Sir Gareth if they're not quite good enough? Jarrod is a more than decent footballer (with a charming ability to deliver crosses from the wrong side of the pitch with his wrong foot), but is, I feel, just a notch or two below making the England side better (although would be delighted to be proven wrong.) I'd say we need more of the likes of Mount, Grealish, Alexander-Arnold, Foden, Bellingham, Saka, Rice, Phillips and their ilk, young players who are already, or who have the potential to be, truly world class. You might not like it, but the elite of England's current crop of youngsters have bloomed, visibly, and put the national side into -when did this last happen? - a final and a semi in the last two proper competitions. Clearly, playing with and being coached by the very best in the world, the majority of whom are foreign and yeah, right, stealing our jobs, has hugely improved our chances of actually winning something. PS. Hereward the Woke - 2/10. There is not a better team player in the Premier League than Jarrod Bowen. The man is absolutely selfless. There’s probably a few things that he could teach the majority of young players nowadays, regardless of where they were born. Also has a top notch cross. From your list only Trent could say the same.
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Post by ronnieclayton on Oct 8, 2021 19:12:37 GMT
I think Newcastle have one little gem - Saint-Maximin. Love watching him play.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 19:25:45 GMT
British football being awash with foreign talent is down to value for money as much as anything. English talent is way overpriced. That is nonsense. You only have to look at the overpriced foreign bullshit that Newcastle have brought in and compare it to West Ham, for example. It's hardly Mike Ashley's fault that some numbnuts spent £40m on a Brazilian striker whose only redeeming qualities are those of a traditional British centre forward. Antonio, for example. I can't really argue against that, but in my defence it is Newcastle who are a car crash.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 19:29:55 GMT
I am not sure what the argument against foreign players is based on? When the only foreign players here were at Tottingham and Ipswich the England team were crap. Now they are right up there.
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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Oct 8, 2021 19:35:08 GMT
I am not sure what the argument against foreign players is based on? When the only foreign players here were at Tottingham and Ipswich the England team were crap. Now they are right up there. Simple and true. The defence rests.
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Post by mikeunderpenyard on Oct 8, 2021 19:37:21 GMT
I've just spent the last 2 and a half hours trawling through the members list on here,and burnt my tea! some interesting usernames, but no sign of a hereward the woke?
Where did that come from?
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Post by ronnieclayton on Oct 8, 2021 19:38:15 GMT
What is interesting of course is that one or two of these outstanding new young players that we have have themselves actually had to leave the country in order to get first team football at the right level.
Not sure what that means but it doesn't seem to have done them any harm.
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Post by ronnieclayton on Oct 8, 2021 19:44:10 GMT
As for Jarrod, well you'd think being a regular member of a currently successful Premier team he might get a look in for the National squad. But actually there are many ahead of him in the queue and, as I've recently been reminded, he's not that young. Its taken him a while to clamber up to where he is now.
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Post by Monkey Tennis on Oct 8, 2021 19:52:41 GMT
Looks like "The Toon" have made their first big-dirty-money signing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 20:05:13 GMT
I've just spent the last 2 and a half hours trawling through the members list on here,and burnt my tea! some interesting usernames, but no sign of a hereward the woke? Where did that come from? Hereward the Wake was an active Anglo-Saxon opponent of the 1066 Norman invasion. It is a fun play on words but of no analogical value.
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Post by singe on Oct 8, 2021 21:07:12 GMT
If we're going to start racially abusing the Saudis we might as well start on the rest. That's odd, I can't see any racial abuse towards Saudis on here. All I can see is an objection to the despicable regime that has taken over at the Toons. A regime that were caught red-handed murdering an innocent journalist because he had the audacity to criticise them. It was fortunate that the Turkish had caught this on tape - I wonder how many other despicable acts they have perpetrated in recent years (and beyond)? Still, I do understand it doesn't fit your pale, male, stale persona so your response is predictable and at least you are being consistent.
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Post by Incognito on Oct 8, 2021 21:20:05 GMT
I am not sure what the argument against foreign players is based on? When the only foreign players here were at Tottingham and Ipswich the England team were crap. Now they are right up there. There were even less in 1966 ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by GRL on Oct 9, 2021 7:21:08 GMT
If we're going to start racially abusing the Saudis we might as well start on the rest. That's odd, I can't see any racial abuse towards Saudis on here. All I can see is an objection to the despicable regime that has taken over at the Toons. A regime that were caught red-handed murdering an innocent journalist because he had the audacity to criticise them. It was fortunate that the Turkish had caught this on tape - I wonder how many other despicable acts they have perpetrated in recent years (and beyond)? Still, I do understand it doesn't fit your pale, male, stale persona so your response is predictable and at least you are being consistent. According to your mates we've got a despicable regime over here. "Scum." As a fierce advocate of remaining in Europe, I'm wondering if during the international break the likes of Bristol City can send out some of their Eastern Europeans to slaughter a few pigs or pick some broccoli. PS Last time I looked Trevor Phillips and Priti Patel would not be described as pale. Nor, indeed, are they beyond the pale.
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Post by GRL on Oct 9, 2021 7:25:10 GMT
When one comments about the absurd diversity of teams in the upper reaches, the usual suspects start complaining. There are too many foreigners in every team. "Oh no there aren't," says Hereward The Woke on here. English youngsters need the aspiration of playing in those top teams. When they see those top teams comprising ten foreigners, it's hardly surprising they go skateboarding, is it? If we're going to start racially abusing the Saudis we might as well start on the rest. We need more Jarrod Bowens.Why? To simply put more English qualified kids on the PL pitch of a weekend? How would that help Sir Gareth if they're not quite good enough? Jarrod is a more than decent footballer (with a charming ability to deliver crosses from the wrong side of the pitch with his wrong foot), but is, I feel, just a notch or two below making the England side better (although would be delighted to be proven wrong.) I'd say we need more of the likes of Mount, Grealish, Alexander-Arnold, Foden, Bellingham, Saka, Rice, Phillips and their ilk, young players who are already, or who have the potential to be, truly world class. You might not like it, but the elite of England's current crop of youngsters have bloomed, visibly, and put the national side into -when did this last happen? - a final and a semi in the last two proper competitions. Clearly, playing with and being coached by the very best in the world, the majority of whom are foreign and yeah, right, stealing our jobs, has hugely improved our chances of actually winning something. PS. Hereward the Woke - 2/10. Is "Sir Gareth" still picking these traitors who won't get vaccinated???
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2021 7:25:19 GMT
That's odd, I can't see any racial abuse towards Saudis on here. All I can see is an objection to the despicable regime that has taken over at the Toons. A regime that were caught red-handed murdering an innocent journalist because he had the audacity to criticise them. It was fortunate that the Turkish had caught this on tape - I wonder how many other despicable acts they have perpetrated in recent years (and beyond)? Still, I do understand it doesn't fit your pale, male, stale persona so your response is predictable and at least you are being consistent. According to your mates we've got a despicable regime over here. "Scum." As a fierce advocate of remaining in Europe, I'm wondering if during the international break the likes of Bristol City can send out some of their Easter Europeans to slaughter a few pigs or pick some broccoli. Easter was ages ago.
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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Oct 9, 2021 8:15:25 GMT
Why? To simply put more English qualified kids on the PL pitch of a weekend? How would that help Sir Gareth if they're not quite good enough? Jarrod is a more than decent footballer (with a charming ability to deliver crosses from the wrong side of the pitch with his wrong foot), but is, I feel, just a notch or two below making the England side better (although would be delighted to be proven wrong.) I'd say we need more of the likes of Mount, Grealish, Alexander-Arnold, Foden, Bellingham, Saka, Rice, Phillips and their ilk, young players who are already, or who have the potential to be, truly world class. You might not like it, but the elite of England's current crop of youngsters have bloomed, visibly, and put the national side into -when did this last happen? - a final and a semi in the last two proper competitions. Clearly, playing with and being coached by the very best in the world, the majority of whom are foreign and yeah, right, stealing our jobs, has hugely improved our chances of actually winning something. PS. Hereward the Woke - 2/10. Is "Sir Gareth" still picking these traitors who won't get vaccinated??? Hmmmm. Whilst I would be very much in favour of a more aggressive approach to incentivising vaccination (struggle to understand why anyone refuses), feel that traitor is a tad strong. Quality deflection btw. Again.
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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Oct 9, 2021 8:24:21 GMT
I am not sure what the argument against foreign players is based on? When the only foreign players here were at Tottingham and Ipswich the England team were crap. Now they are right up there. There were even less in 1966 ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) Ex, I note the winky thing so won’t lecture you on how we performed in 1970. And ‘74. And with the exception of Gazza in Italy, pretty often tbh. When we actually even qualified. Before Johnny Foreigner really got serious over here. 😉
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2021 8:27:12 GMT
That's odd, I can't see any racial abuse towards Saudis on here. All I can see is an objection to the despicable regime that has taken over at the Toons. A regime that were caught red-handed murdering an innocent journalist because he had the audacity to criticise them. It was fortunate that the Turkish had caught this on tape - I wonder how many other despicable acts they have perpetrated in recent years (and beyond)? Still, I do understand it doesn't fit your pale, male, stale persona so your response is predictable and at least you are being consistent. According to your mates we've got a despicable regime over here. "Scum." As a fierce advocate of remaining in Europe, I'm wondering if during the international break the likes of Bristol City can send out some of their Eastern Europeans to slaughter a few pigs or pick some broccoli. PS Last time I looked Trevor Phillips and Priti Patel would not be described as pale. Nor, indeed, are they beyond the pale. Just the foreigners?
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Post by GRL on Oct 9, 2021 8:32:59 GMT
According to your mates we've got a despicable regime over here. "Scum." As a fierce advocate of remaining in Europe, I'm wondering if during the international break the likes of Bristol City can send out some of their Eastern Europeans to slaughter a few pigs or pick some broccoli. PS Last time I looked Trevor Phillips and Priti Patel would not be described as pale. Nor, indeed, are they beyond the pale. Just the foreigners? They haven't got any non-foreigners. Last time I looked.
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