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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Oct 7, 2021 22:05:54 GMT
Why? Why are they any different to anyone? I don't get it. You are right. Maybe deserve is the wrong word. My point is that they have for generations had huge support and achieved not very much. Now in the corrupt football fantasy world ( which I have made clear that I detest)they have a chance to do so. Back to my point about if this happened to Hereford what would you ( not just you of course)do-that’s the real question. I wouldn’t, under any circumstances, set foot inside Edgar Street until they’d gone. Real answer.
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Post by tigerfeet on Oct 7, 2021 22:30:24 GMT
Why? Why are they any different to anyone? I don't get it. You are right. Maybe deserve is the wrong word. My point is that they have for generations had huge support and achieved not very much. Now in the corrupt football fantasy world ( which I have made clear that I detest)they have a chance to do so. Back to my point about if this happened to Hereford what would you ( not just you of course)do-that’s the real question. I agree with you. Of course no club has a divine right to success but Newcastle United are undoubtedly a "proper" football club with a loyal and local fanbase and a real connection with the city they play in. You certainly don't get coachloads of plastic geordies travelling to St James Park from Surrey or Devon every other weekend unlike other premier league clubs i could mention!
Whilst it's tiresome and predictable to see the middle class liberals of Amnesty International bleating on about human rights, at the end of the day politics has no place in sport. If Newcastle United competing financially with the so-called Big Six makes for a more interesting Premier League I'm all for it.
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Post by mikeunderpenyard on Oct 7, 2021 22:41:04 GMT
You are right. Maybe deserve is the wrong word. My point is that they have for generations had huge support and achieved not very much. Now in the corrupt football fantasy world ( which I have made clear that I detest)they have a chance to do so. Back to my point about if this happened to Hereford what would you ( not just you of course)do-that’s the real question. I agree with you. Of course no club has a divine right to success but Newcastle United are undoubtedly a "proper" football club with a loyal and local fanbase and a real connection with the city they play in. You certainly don't get coachloads of plastic geordies travelling to St James Park from Surrey or Devon every other weekend unlike other premier league clubs i could mention!
Whilst it's tiresome and predictable to see the middle class liberals of Amnesty International bleating on about human rights, at the end of the day politics has no place in sport. If Newcastle United competing financially with the so-called Big Six makes for a more interesting Premier League I'm all for it.
The average attendance of plastic geordies travelling to st James Park in Devon is 4847.
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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Oct 7, 2021 22:47:56 GMT
You are right. Maybe deserve is the wrong word. My point is that they have for generations had huge support and achieved not very much. Now in the corrupt football fantasy world ( which I have made clear that I detest)they have a chance to do so. Back to my point about if this happened to Hereford what would you ( not just you of course)do-that’s the real question. I agree with you. Of course no club has a divine right to success but Newcastle United are undoubtedly a "proper" football club with a loyal and local fanbase and a real connection with the city they play in. You certainly don't get coachloads of plastic geordies travelling to St James Park from Surrey or Devon every other weekend unlike other premier league clubs i could mention!
Whilst it's tiresome and predictable to see the middle class liberals of Amnesty International bleating on about human rights, at the end of the day politics has no place in sport. If Newcastle United competing financially with the so-called Big Six makes for a more interesting Premier League I'm all for it.
If you really think that politics has no place in sport, I would ask you this. Sport hastened the end of apartheid by many years, do you think that was wrong?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 4:25:03 GMT
I wonder if it is the same lot that Keyte was close to finalising a deal with?
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Post by mulchingbull on Oct 8, 2021 6:20:19 GMT
For me as I've said before I lost interest in the Premier League a long time ago the money thats involved is morally wrong. It appears to me that a lot of the clubs are run by people who have no interest in this country what so ever. How long will it be before the super league comes up again, good luck to Newcastle and their fans but be careful what you wish for you may end up having to watch your team on TV or travelling to Europe every other week. These clubs are becoming so wealthy how will the football authorities or anyone else be able to stop them and perhaps we will see a lot more clubs on the same lines as FC United of Manchester....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 7:57:02 GMT
I usually watch the 4:30 game whilst I am making Sunday dinner*
The test for me with football like that comes about when there is cricket on at the same time. I always tend to watch the cricket over football. I also like watching the lower league games that are kicking around over the big boy football. The football league show is now on Quest which is nuts.
*this is where the real debate lies. Do you go Sunday lunch at 1pm, or have it as your evening meal?
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Post by somnambulist on Oct 8, 2021 8:12:00 GMT
You are right. Maybe deserve is the wrong word. My point is that they have for generations had huge support and achieved not very much. Now in the corrupt football fantasy world ( which I have made clear that I detest)they have a chance to do so. Back to my point about if this happened to Hereford what would you ( not just you of course)do-that’s the real question. I agree with you. Of course no club has a divine right to success but Newcastle United are undoubtedly a "proper" football club with a loyal and local fanbase and a real connection with the city they play in. You certainly don't get coachloads of plastic geordies travelling to St James Park from Surrey or Devon every other weekend unlike other premier league clubs i could mention!
Whilst it's tiresome and predictable to see the middle class liberals of Amnesty International bleating on about human rights, at the end of the day politics has no place in sport. If Newcastle United competing financially with the so-called Big Six makes for a more interesting Premier League I'm all for it.
If anyone is bringing politics into sport, it's MBS and his cronies. The whole point of the exercise is to make the despicable Saudi regime look good. The Newcastle supporters are willing pawns.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 8:43:52 GMT
I should think several thousand people travel from Devon to St James Park every other weekend.
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Post by Peroni on Oct 8, 2021 9:02:02 GMT
Whatever time Toby can fit me in.
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Post by Robin Fridays Right Foot on Oct 8, 2021 10:07:32 GMT
Fans are dancing wearing the Ghutra celebrating the fact MA has at last gone.It's a week to the first home fixture with new owners and ample time for even the most avid supporters to reflect on the significance and morality of this deal deal.Regardless of whether the huge investment expected brings the success the fans crave the club will still forever be seen as tainted and have to live with the expected ridicule .Sir Bobby Robson would be appalled.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 11:19:03 GMT
"I understand that questions have to be asked about the human rights issues, it's really important that we don't brush them under the carpet," Shearer added.
"We have to educate ourselves on that and this will highlight that even more... but already they are massively invested in this country and other sports.
"It is a huge issue but it's not Newcastle United fans' fault - they don't get a say in their football club and how it's run."
Sounds like he brushed those issues under the carpet pretty sharpish. With a massive we-can't-do-anything-about-it-so-just-ignore-it shaped brush.
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Post by portlyottersdad on Oct 8, 2021 15:42:35 GMT
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Post by somnambulist on Oct 8, 2021 16:17:59 GMT
Good piece. Newcastle are by no means the only offenders. I still find the endorsement by the fans of this awful government distasteful in the extreme. Endorsement is really the only word, given the amount of column inches, news coverage and social media attention this take over has attracted over the past year. I struggle to view the fans as blameless. The vast majority want this takeover, and to hell with the consequences. Goldblatt is right, this is just the latest outrage and perhaps it is already too late to pull back from there brink. There was an element of optimism and hope when the Super League was effectively torpedoed by fan power, but it proved all too transitory. Football as late stage capitalism is alive and well. We reap what we sow.
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Post by GRL on Oct 8, 2021 16:21:34 GMT
When one comments about the absurd diversity of teams in the upper reaches, the usual suspects start complaining. There are too many foreigners in every team. "Oh no there aren't," says Hereward The Woke on here. English youngsters need the aspiration of playing in those top teams. When they see those top teams comprising ten foreigners, it's hardly surprising they go skateboarding, is it?
If we're going to start racially abusing the Saudis we might as well start on the rest.
We need more Jarrod Bowens.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 16:47:14 GMT
British football being awash with foreign talent is down to value for money as much as anything. English talent is way overpriced.
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Post by portlyottersdad on Oct 8, 2021 17:09:03 GMT
At the end of the day, as somnambulist said in an earlier post, I would rather get wet watching Hereford at Merstham than follow the money circus.
All empires come to an end…. Even the football elite one.
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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Oct 8, 2021 17:11:36 GMT
When one comments about the absurd diversity of teams in the upper reaches, the usual suspects start complaining. There are too many foreigners in every team. "Oh no there aren't," says Hereward The Woke on here. English youngsters need the aspiration of playing in those top teams. When they see those top teams comprising ten foreigners, it's hardly surprising they go skateboarding, is it? If we're going to start racially abusing the Saudis we might as well start on the rest. We need more Jarrod Bowens.Why? To simply put more English qualified kids on the PL pitch of a weekend? How would that help Sir Gareth if they're not quite good enough? Jarrod is a more than decent footballer (with a charming ability to deliver crosses from the wrong side of the pitch with his wrong foot), but is, I feel, just a notch or two below making the England side better (although would be delighted to be proven wrong.) I'd say we need more of the likes of Mount, Grealish, Alexander-Arnold, Foden, Bellingham, Saka, Rice, Phillips and their ilk, young players who are already, or who have the potential to be, truly world class. You might not like it, but the elite of England's current crop of youngsters have bloomed, visibly, and put the national side into -when did this last happen? - a final and a semi in the last two proper competitions. Clearly, playing with and being coached by the very best in the world, the majority of whom are foreign and yeah, right, stealing our jobs, has hugely improved our chances of actually winning something. PS. Hereward the Woke - 2/10.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 17:56:30 GMT
British football being awash with foreign talent is down to value for money as much as anything. English talent is way overpriced. That is nonsense. You only have to look at the overpriced foreign bullshit that Newcastle have brought in and compare it to West Ham, for example. It's hardly Mike Ashley's fault that some numbnuts spent £40m on a Brazilian striker whose only redeeming qualities are those of a traditional British centre forward. Antonio, for example.
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Post by somnambulist on Oct 8, 2021 18:18:34 GMT
British football being awash with foreign talent is down to value for money as much as anything. English talent is way overpriced. That is nonsense. You only have to look at the overpriced foreign bullshit that Newcastle have brought in and compare it to West Ham, for example. It's hardly Mike Ashley's fault that some numbnuts spent £40m on a Brazilian striker whose only redeeming qualities are those of a traditional British centre forward. Antonio, for example. Felipe Anderson cough cough!
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