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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 10:00:21 GMT
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Post by Peroni on Aug 28, 2019 10:15:51 GMT
Get your popcorn Max. Here we go.... poor old max, how many packets of popcorn have you made him have now ! is this finally the one
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Post by changeabull on Aug 28, 2019 12:27:04 GMT
Well, the #@&t has certainly just hit the fan. Democracy my arse. If Boris's latest move finally forces MPs to carry out what we DEMOCRATICALLY voted for three years ago instead of their own self interests then democracy will finally be served!
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Post by MAXBULL on Aug 28, 2019 12:33:53 GMT
Get your popcorn Max. Here we go.... poor old max, how many packets of popcorn have you made him have now ! is this finally the one
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Post by colebridgebull on Aug 28, 2019 12:47:55 GMT
Well, the #@&t has certainly just hit the fan. Democracy my arse. If Boris's latest move finally forces MPs to carry out what we DEMOCRATICALLY voted for three years ago instead of their own self interests then democracy will finally be served! Not going to bite on the no doubt intended self serving ridiculousness of your post as there’s little point in engaging with anyone who thinks a point is strengthened by using capital letters or exclamation marks (yes-we all get your usual “style”.) Let’s draw an analogy. A certain former forum moderator for Hereford FC dealt with any form of criticism for the club he was intrinsically involved in and had coveted for years by barring anyone who challenged the status quo and ultimately closing down the main outlet of debate. That went well. Of course,he left a few cheerleader(s) out there. A true democracy encourages and enables debate. A true democracy can change its mind when all the facts are known. A true man is not afraid to admit when he has made a mistake. A coward runs away from all of that. And relies on other cowards to do his dirty work. History does not look kindly on cowards. Johnson is toast.
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Post by lazarus on Aug 28, 2019 13:28:54 GMT
Other opinions are available ( not from bad losers who refuse to accept a result they don't like )
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Post by colebridgebull on Aug 28, 2019 13:51:35 GMT
Perhaps you’d care to occasionally express (sic) one then.
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Post by changeabull on Aug 28, 2019 13:59:09 GMT
If Boris's latest move finally forces MPs to carry out what we DEMOCRATICALLY voted for three years ago instead of their own self interests then democracy will finally be served! Not going to bite on the no doubt intended self serving ridiculousness of your post as there’s little point in engaging with anyone who thinks a point is strengthened by using capital letters or exclamation marks (yes-we all get your usual “style”.) Let’s draw an analogy. A certain former forum moderator for Hereford FC dealt with any form of criticism for the club he was intrinsically involved in and had coveted for years by barring anyone who challenged the status quo and ultimately closing down the main outlet of debate. That went well. Of course,he left a few cheerleader(s) out there. A true democracy encourages and enables debate. A true democracy can change its mind when all the facts are known. A true man is not afraid to admit when he has made a mistake. A coward runs away from all of that. And relies on other cowards to do his dirty work. History does not look kindly on cowards. Johnson is toast. You can stamp your little feet all you like but the fact remains (sic) that in 2016 we voted to leave the EU and that remained MPs have wasted 3 years trying to prevent the will of the people happening. If Boris's finally pulls it off and we leave on 31 October he'll be a hero to the decent working class people of the UK.
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Post by Palms Halt on Aug 28, 2019 13:59:35 GMT
Other opinions are available ( not from bad losers who refuse to accept a result they don't like ) Bring it on mate. Nothing wrong with reasoned debate...
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Post by Palms Halt on Aug 28, 2019 14:01:20 GMT
Not going to bite on the no doubt intended self serving ridiculousness of your post as there’s little point in engaging with anyone who thinks a point is strengthened by using capital letters or exclamation marks (yes-we all get your usual “style”.) Let’s draw an analogy. A certain former forum moderator for Hereford FC dealt with any form of criticism for the club he was intrinsically involved in and had coveted for years by barring anyone who challenged the status quo and ultimately closing down the main outlet of debate. That went well. Of course,he left a few cheerleader(s) out there. A true democracy encourages and enables debate. A true democracy can change its mind when all the facts are known. A true man is not afraid to admit when he has made a mistake. A coward runs away from all of that. And relies on other cowards to do his dirty work. History does not look kindly on cowards. Johnson is toast. You can stamp your little feet all you like but the fact remains (sic) that in 2016 we voted to leave the EU and that remained MPs have wasted 3 years trying to prevent the will of the people happening. If Boris's finally pulls it off and we leave on 31 October he'll be a hero to the decent working class people of the UK. Who decides who the decent working class people are? Are they the ones who manage to not need to resort to food banks to survive, or the ones who end up on the streets because they can't pay their rent/mortgage any more?
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Post by FASH on Aug 28, 2019 14:05:10 GMT
If Boris's latest move finally forces MPs to carry out what we DEMOCRATICALLY voted for three years ago instead of their own self interests then democracy will finally be served! Not going to bite on the no doubt intended self serving ridiculousness of your post as there’s little point in engaging with anyone who thinks a point is strengthened by using capital letters or exclamation marks (yes-we all get your usual “style”.) Let’s draw an analogy. A certain former forum moderator for Hereford FC dealt with any form of criticism for the club he was intrinsically involved in and had coveted for years by barring anyone who challenged the status quo and ultimately closing down the main outlet of debate. That went well. Of course,he left a few cheerleader(s) out there. A true democracy encourages and enables debate. A true democracy can change its mind when all the facts are known. A true man is not afraid to admit when he has made a mistake. A coward runs away from all of that. And relies on other cowards to do his dirty work. History does not look kindly on cowards. Johnson is toast. Why are you so against the government implementing the results of a democratic referendum? Is it because you didn't like the result and you think you know better than the working class oiks who voted for leave? You sound like a middle class supremacist. A large chunk of our country has become possessed by this supremacist ideology. The bourgeoisie lefties seem totally convinced of their inherent intellectual, educational, moral, philosophical, social and even aesthetical superiority.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 14:11:08 GMT
Perhaps you’d care to occasionally express (sic) one then. At the time the movie Ali G In Da House looked far fetched. They need to revisit that and ridiculous it up a bit. Speaking of smokers, that Elon Musk is as mad as a box of frogs when he gets on it, but this late night quote of his makes more and more sense by the day.... Elon Musk says he firmly believes reality is a simulation created by a superintelligence.
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Post by somnambulist on Aug 28, 2019 14:30:45 GMT
Not going to bite on the no doubt intended self serving ridiculousness of your post as there’s little point in engaging with anyone who thinks a point is strengthened by using capital letters or exclamation marks (yes-we all get your usual “style”.) Let’s draw an analogy. A certain former forum moderator for Hereford FC dealt with any form of criticism for the club he was intrinsically involved in and had coveted for years by barring anyone who challenged the status quo and ultimately closing down the main outlet of debate. That went well. Of course,he left a few cheerleader(s) out there. A true democracy encourages and enables debate. A true democracy can change its mind when all the facts are known. A true man is not afraid to admit when he has made a mistake. A coward runs away from all of that. And relies on other cowards to do his dirty work. History does not look kindly on cowards. Johnson is toast. Why are you so against the government implementing the results of a democratic referendum? Is it because you didn't like the result and you think you know better than the working class oiks who voted for leave? You sound like a middle class supremacist. A large chunk of our country has become possessed by this supremacist ideology. The bourgeoisie lefties seem totally convinced of their inherent intellectual, educational, moral, philosophical, social and even aesthetical superiority. Never mind the result. I didn't like the question much. I refuse to believe that the majority wanted to leave without a deal. Regarding the "bourgeoisie lefties", you are hopelessly wrong. I 've never seen such a middle of the road, centrist coalition as the Remain demonstrators. Frustratingly so! In what other protest group would the likes of Anna Soubry and Chuka Ummana because heroes of the people whilst the austerity-fighting left are seen as the villains in the piece.
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Post by colebridgebull on Aug 28, 2019 14:32:15 GMT
Not going to bite on the no doubt intended self serving ridiculousness of your post as there’s little point in engaging with anyone who thinks a point is strengthened by using capital letters or exclamation marks (yes-we all get your usual “style”.) Let’s draw an analogy. A certain former forum moderator for Hereford FC dealt with any form of criticism for the club he was intrinsically involved in and had coveted for years by barring anyone who challenged the status quo and ultimately closing down the main outlet of debate. That went well. Of course,he left a few cheerleader(s) out there. A true democracy encourages and enables debate. A true democracy can change its mind when all the facts are known. A true man is not afraid to admit when he has made a mistake. A coward runs away from all of that. And relies on other cowards to do his dirty work. History does not look kindly on cowards. Johnson is toast. Why are you so against the government implementing the results of a democratic referendum? Is it because you didn't like the result and you think you know better than the working class oiks who voted for leave? You sound like a middle class supremacist. A large chunk of our country has become possessed by this supremacist ideology. The bourgeoisie lefties seem totally convinced of their inherent intellectual, educational, moral, philosophical, social and even aesthetical superiority. That little bit of prose beats no resemblance to anything I’ve ever posted or suggested. But well done for adopting an air of moral superiority. Nice try, but I’ll pop you in the “to do” file.
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Post by Palms Halt on Aug 28, 2019 14:32:52 GMT
Not going to bite on the no doubt intended self serving ridiculousness of your post as there’s little point in engaging with anyone who thinks a point is strengthened by using capital letters or exclamation marks (yes-we all get your usual “style”.) Let’s draw an analogy. A certain former forum moderator for Hereford FC dealt with any form of criticism for the club he was intrinsically involved in and had coveted for years by barring anyone who challenged the status quo and ultimately closing down the main outlet of debate. That went well. Of course,he left a few cheerleader(s) out there. A true democracy encourages and enables debate. A true democracy can change its mind when all the facts are known. A true man is not afraid to admit when he has made a mistake. A coward runs away from all of that. And relies on other cowards to do his dirty work. History does not look kindly on cowards. Johnson is toast. Why are you so against the government implementing the results of a democratic referendum? Is it because you didn't like the result and you think you know better than the working class oiks who voted for leave? You sound like a middle class supremacist. A large chunk of our country has become possessed by this supremacist ideology. The bourgeoisie lefties seem totally convinced of their inherent intellectual, educational, moral, philosophical, social and even aesthetical superiority. So 48% of the population are middle class lefties?
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Post by Incognito on Aug 28, 2019 15:01:53 GMT
Why are you so against the government implementing the results of a democratic referendum? Is it because you didn't like the result and you think you know better than the working class oiks who voted for leave? You sound like a middle class supremacist. A large chunk of our country has become possessed by this supremacist ideology. The bourgeoisie lefties seem totally convinced of their inherent intellectual, educational, moral, philosophical, social and even aesthetical superiority. Never mind the result. I didn't like the question much. I refuse to believe that the majority wanted to leave without a deal. Regarding the "bourgeoisie lefties", you are hopelessly wrong. I 've never seen such a middle of the road, centrist coalition as the Remain demonstrators. Frustratingly so! In what other protest group would the likes of Anna Soubry and Chuka Ummana because heroes of the people whilst the austerity-fighting left are seen as the villains in the piece. Well, when they voted there was no deal. I'm inclined to think that the majority expected to leave and then negotiate a trade deal with The EU as an independent nation.
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Post by colebridgebull on Aug 28, 2019 15:19:10 GMT
There wasn’t a deal, but there certainly wasn’t “no deal”. Quite the opposite was promised by the charlatans at the head of the Leave campaign.
This is down to them. Every last bit of it. No-one can really sensibly suggest that their plans have been frustrated when they have never produced one single feasible way forward.
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Post by Palms Halt on Aug 28, 2019 15:58:59 GMT
There's never been a plan, that's the problem.
Those that campaigned for Brexit have not been able to deliver one sensible way forward, and constantly blame those that didn't Brexit. Surely the "winners" should be carrying out what they actually want, and if it's what people wanted then they'll wave it through. The fact nobody is waving through any of this attempts at delivering some semblance of Brexit shows you that nobody is capable of giving the people what they want
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Post by sisyphus on Aug 28, 2019 16:05:45 GMT
They might have done-if all the parties had got together and said ‘Ok, the people have spoken. Let us now get together and carry it through to the best of our abilities, and in the best interest of the UK. Rather than all squabble and show ourselves to be an absolute hopeless shower of Farages.’
In response to CB above.
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Post by colebridgebull on Aug 28, 2019 16:18:37 GMT
Don’t disagree with that. And, in truth, that is essentially what has happened. The problem is, as one commentator put it, that this like trying to remove the egg from a Victoria Sponge after it has been baked.
Bluntly, it is for those who headed the Leave project to deliver. They have utterly and completely failed to do so, and no amount of blame deflection will make an iota of difference to the very obvious fundamental difficulties the project they were championing engendered. Of course, that was all “Project Fear”.
The chickens have come home to roost, and Johnson’s cowardly and desperate actions today should be condemned by every supporter of democracy in the UK.
Months and months ago I invited Leave voters on here to suggest tangible benefits of leaving, what laws they were most looking forward to seeing gone and some idea of how this was all going to be achieved.
Still waiting for a reply to that one.
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