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Post by mikeunderpenyard on Apr 19, 2017 18:43:03 GMT
It's a football forum ffs.
We need a player who is extremely left wing.
Pablos wasted out there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 18:47:08 GMT
Out of interest is there actually anyone on the mod team who isn't extremely left wing? Surely a bit of diversity is needed here. Not that I'm putting my own name forward here but I'd be more than happy to make a few suggestions the next time a position opens up.
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Post by colebridgebull on Apr 19, 2017 18:53:31 GMT
Out of interest is there actually anyone on the mod team who isn't extremely left wing? Surely a bit of diversity is needed here. Not that I'm putting my own name forward here but I'd be more than happy to make a few suggestions the next time a position opens up. You had a month to do so in March. But always open to "new blood". Fill your boots. (I think your definition of "extremely left wing" is anyone left of Steve Bannon and Tommy Robinson btw. I'd place myself as centre left. Just)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 19:13:55 GMT
Out of interest is there actually anyone on the mod team who isn't extremely left wing? Surely a bit of diversity is needed here. Not that I'm putting my own name forward here but I'd be more than happy to make a few suggestions the next time a position opens up. I was the wishy-washy liberal one. Practically Maoist since I handed in my badge.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 19:34:58 GMT
Out of interest is there actually anyone on the mod team who isn't extremely left wing? Surely a bit of diversity is needed here. Not that I'm putting my own name forward here but I'd be more than happy to make a few suggestions the next time a position opens up. You had a month to do so in March. But always open to "new blood". Fill your boots. (I think your definition of "extremely left wing" is anyone left of Steve Bannon and Tommy Robinson btw. I'd place myself as centre left. Just) Just. Key word there cb. Just centre, or just left? 😂
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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Apr 19, 2017 20:14:07 GMT
Left right centre mid
Also known as a Purdie.
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Post by excitable on Apr 19, 2017 20:49:03 GMT
You had a month to do so in March. But always open to "new blood". Fill your boots. (I think your definition of "extremely left wing" is anyone left of Steve Bannon and Tommy Robinson btw. I'd place myself as centre left. Just) Just. Key word there cb. Just centre, or just left? 😂 Has he really just left? Bet he comes back like ww. 😇
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Post by Fownhope Bull on Apr 19, 2017 21:58:13 GMT
Out of interest is there actually anyone on the mod team who isn't extremely left wing? Surely a bit of diversity is needed here. Not that I'm putting my own name forward here but I'd be more than happy to make a few suggestions the next time a position opens up. What's your definition? You've 'accused' me in the past of being hard left, yet I'm considered by many of my friends to be pretty centre with a bit of a lean to the left. People who don't vote Tory aren't all hard-core Communists, you know....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 22:15:45 GMT
Out of interest is there actually anyone on the mod team who isn't extremely left wing? Surely a bit of diversity is needed here. Not that I'm putting my own name forward here but I'd be more than happy to make a few suggestions the next time a position opens up. What's your definition? You've 'accused' me in the past of being hard left, yet I'm considered by many of my friends to be pretty centre with a bit of a lean to the left. People who don't vote Tory aren't all hard-core Communists, you know.... But you cant just say I'm sort of centre left. You tell me what kind of hard left policies you're actually opposed to.
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Post by Fownhope Bull on Apr 20, 2017 7:20:02 GMT
What's your definition? You've 'accused' me in the past of being hard left, yet I'm considered by many of my friends to be pretty centre with a bit of a lean to the left. People who don't vote Tory aren't all hard-core Communists, you know.... But you cant just say I'm sort of centre left. You tell me what kind of hard left policies you're actually opposed to. With respect, I can say what the hell I like.
You (but you're not alone in this) appear to think that reading the Guardian, considering oneself a natural Labour voter and opposing Brexit makes you 'hard left'.
Pure Communism is a ridiculous notion that will never work - it goes against basic human survival instincts. There you go. And just to please you, I'll also say that I have no problem with people making huge amounts of money. It does not concern me. What does concern me is that they do it legally and pay their fair share of tax on this huge income. What is far more important is that those at the financial bottom of society are lifted up out of poverty - there is nothing wrong with the UK having lots of very rich people in it, but it's a disgrace that there are lots of very poor people in it. Hardly 'hard left'.....
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Post by singe on Apr 20, 2017 7:40:29 GMT
But you cant just say I'm sort of centre left. You tell me what kind of hard left policies you're actually opposed to. With respect, I can say what the hell I like.
You (but you're not alone in this) appear to think that reading the Guardian, considering oneself a natural Labour voter and opposing Brexit makes you 'hard left'.
Pure Communism is a ridiculous notion that will never work - it goes against basic human survival instincts. There you go. And just to please you, I'll also say that I have no problem with people making huge amounts of money. It does not concern me. What does concern me is that they do it legally and pay their fair share of tax on this huge income. What is far more important is that those at the financial bottom of society are lifted up out of poverty - there is nothing wrong with the UK having lots of very rich people in it, but it's a disgrace that there are lots of very poor people in it. Hardly 'hard left'.....
Great reply Fownhope. Read an interesting piece on the BBC yesterday; www.bbc.com/future/story/20170418-how-western-civilisation-could-collapseYou post reminded me of it.
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Post by Fownhope Bull on Apr 20, 2017 8:19:03 GMT
The 'New' Labour landslide of 1997 showed - clearly - that the British public were more than happy to have a centre left government in power. Essentially a government which supported business, was happy for people to make money, but made it clear that looking after the less fortunate was the right thing to do as well ('have a successful business but let's have a minimum wage for the workers'). Cameron worked this out as well - he rose to power on a 'hug a hoodie and be green' manifesto. The British people are fundamentally decent and caring (hence the setting up of the NHS, for example).
For me, personally, the tragedy of Corbyn is that I believe there are many who find the current Tory policies much further to the right than they would like, but they feel that voting for them is a safer bet than the increasingly far left views of the Labour leadership. If Corbyn came across as a natural leader they might be persuaded to give him a go, but he doesn't.
The result is that on June 8th, the country will vote in the Tories with a greatly increased majority, and those on the Tory right will perceive it as a mandate to impose ever harder right wing policies. The only plus (IMO) is that Corbyn will go and Labour will (hopefully) rebuild with a more moderate manifesto - one which the British people will embrace.
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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Apr 20, 2017 9:08:04 GMT
But you cant just say I'm sort of centre left. You tell me what kind of hard left policies you're actually opposed to. With respect, I can say what the hell I like.
You (but you're not alone in this) appear to think that reading the Guardian, considering oneself a natural Labour voter and opposing Brexit makes you 'hard left'.
Pure Communism is a ridiculous notion that will never work - it goes against basic human survival instincts. There you go. And just to please you, I'll also say that I have no problem with people making huge amounts of money. It does not concern me. What does concern me is that they do it legally and pay their fair share of tax on this huge income. What is far more important is that those at the financial bottom of society are lifted up out of poverty - there is nothing wrong with the UK having lots of very rich people in it, but it's a disgrace that there are lots of very poor people in it. Hardly 'hard left'.....
Kudos for having a (very eloquent) go FB, but I feel you're p155ing into the wind as far as that poster is concerned.
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Post by Peroni on Apr 20, 2017 9:28:04 GMT
It's a football forum ffs. We need a player who is extremely left wing. Pablos wasted out there. Think you're on the wrong page ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 11:06:48 GMT
But you cant just say I'm sort of centre left. You tell me what kind of hard left policies you're actually opposed to. With respect, I can say what the hell I like.
You (but you're not alone in this) appear to think that reading the Guardian, considering oneself a natural Labour voter and opposing Brexit makes you 'hard left'.
Pure Communism is a ridiculous notion that will never work - it goes against basic human survival instincts. There you go. And just to please you, I'll also say that I have no problem with people making huge amounts of money. It does not concern me. What does concern me is that they do it legally and pay their fair share of tax on this huge income. What is far more important is that those at the financial bottom of society are lifted up out of poverty - there is nothing wrong with the UK having lots of very rich people in it, but it's a disgrace that there are lots of very poor people in it. Hardly 'hard left'.....
Guardian readers are hard left no doubt about it. I mean there's so few of them these days that you might as well just call it Jeremy Corbyn's support club. The only shame is that because no one reads it their shite articles rarely get picked up on much. Just a load of well off 20 year olds pretending they know how to run a country. I guess that's what I've been trying to say though. None of you are actually poor or struggling to get by whereas a good number of real Labour supporters generally are not too well off financially. I don't think any of you know what its like to live in poverty even if you keep pretending that you do. But you watch the condescending way in which Colebridgebull and others finishes off almost every one of his posts. Its a thing I see time and time again among people who think they're better than everyone else and think they know it all and that everyone else is too stupid to make up their own minds about anything. That isn't the average Labour supporter I know. Those people might want change but certainly not in the same way that many people on here who claim to be only "centre left" do.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 11:08:40 GMT
Classic jammo.
Lovely stuff!
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Post by Fownhope Bull on Apr 20, 2017 11:14:30 GMT
With respect, I can say what the hell I like.
You (but you're not alone in this) appear to think that reading the Guardian, considering oneself a natural Labour voter and opposing Brexit makes you 'hard left'.
Pure Communism is a ridiculous notion that will never work - it goes against basic human survival instincts. There you go. And just to please you, I'll also say that I have no problem with people making huge amounts of money. It does not concern me. What does concern me is that they do it legally and pay their fair share of tax on this huge income. What is far more important is that those at the financial bottom of society are lifted up out of poverty - there is nothing wrong with the UK having lots of very rich people in it, but it's a disgrace that there are lots of very poor people in it. Hardly 'hard left'.....
Guardian readers are hard left no doubt about it. I mean there's so few of them these days that you might as well just call it Jeremy Corbyn's support club. The only shame is that because no one reads it their #@&te articles rarely get picked up on much. Just a load of well off 20 year olds pretending they know how to run a country. I guess that's what I've been trying to say though. None of you are actually poor or struggling to get by whereas a good number of real Labour supporters generally are not too well off financially. I don't think any of you know what its like to live in poverty even if you keep pretending that you do. But you watch the condescending way in which Colebridgebull and others finishes off almost every one of his posts. Its a thing I see time and time again among people who think they're better than everyone else and think they know it all and that everyone else is too stupid to make up their own minds about anything. That isn't the average Labour supporter I know. Those people might want change but certainly not in the same way that many people on here who claim to be only "centre left" do. Not bad. Trying slightly too hard at times - the bait is a bit obvious - but a decent effort.
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Post by Incognito on Apr 20, 2017 11:24:18 GMT
He's in good form ATM.
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Post by eggchaserbull on Apr 20, 2017 11:27:34 GMT
With respect, I can say what the hell I like.
You (but you're not alone in this) appear to think that reading the Guardian, considering oneself a natural Labour voter and opposing Brexit makes you 'hard left'.
Pure Communism is a ridiculous notion that will never work - it goes against basic human survival instincts. There you go. And just to please you, I'll also say that I have no problem with people making huge amounts of money. It does not concern me. What does concern me is that they do it legally and pay their fair share of tax on this huge income. What is far more important is that those at the financial bottom of society are lifted up out of poverty - there is nothing wrong with the UK having lots of very rich people in it, but it's a disgrace that there are lots of very poor people in it. Hardly 'hard left'.....
Guardian readers are hard left no doubt about it. I mean there's so few of them these days that you might as well just call it Jeremy Corbyn's support club. The only shame is that because no one reads it their #@&te articles rarely get picked up on much. Just a load of well off 20 year olds pretending they know how to run a country. I guess that's what I've been trying to say though. None of you are actually poor or struggling to get by whereas a good number of real Labour supporters generally are not too well off financially. I don't think any of you know what its like to live in poverty even if you keep pretending that you do. But you watch the condescending way in which Colebridgebull and others finishes off almost every one of his posts. Its a thing I see time and time again among people who think they're better than everyone else and think they know it all and that everyone else is too stupid to make up their own minds about anything. That isn't the average Labour supporter I know. Those people might want change but certainly not in the same way that many people on here who claim to be only "centre left" do. That is sad! I've never experienced somebody thinking that they are better than me, or that I'm too stupid to make my mind up about anything. I'm sorry that it happens to you so often.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 11:27:49 GMT
The suggestion that only those in poverty have a legitimate reason to be concerned about it was a particularly nice piece of work. It's like he's channeling IDS or something.
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