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Post by colebridgebull on Apr 18, 2017 15:53:11 GMT
I'm not in JC's constituency if that helps. I'll vote according to policy, not for any other reason. I was responding to Fownhopes statement and he seemed to think policy was set by party leaders so your " politician's answer" didn't really help. Hmm. I wasn't responding to your post (although I can see that it might have seemed that way). Nothing particularly evasive about my post. I vote on policies, not because I might have voted a particular way in the past.
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Post by Robin Fridays Right Foot on Apr 18, 2017 16:02:12 GMT
I would submit that a lot of Labour MPs use Jeremy Corbyn as a cover for their own inadequacies - like, for example, explaining what they stand for. One danger for Mrs May is that she was a Remainer. Does the electorate want a Remainer leading Brexit? It's also a heaven-sent opportunity for the good denizens of Henley to get rid of Boris. Now that would be comforting. Spend some time in Henley and you will appreciate half the electorate are Boris clones.Pubs have a good pint of Brakespears bitter . John Howells is the current MP.
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Post by eggchaserbull on Apr 18, 2017 16:09:20 GMT
Oh, absolutely. What's she got at the moment? 17, I think.
As to Corbyn - well, if my fellow lefty, Guardian-reading friends are anything to go by, none of them will be voting for him. A principled (if pretty arrogant) man who was quite happy having battles with the leadership of his own party, but never a leader.
EDIT: I'm well aware that we vote for constituency candidates as opposed to the party leader, but the reality is that the leader is key (particularly, I would say, with regard to the current Labour Party).
Serious question how do lefty Guardian readers vote these days? I'll probably vote the way I always have, Labour. There is no chance Labour will win in Hereford, so if JC gets in it won't be my fault. Even when in the military, my constituency was Hereford, so I've never actually voted for a successful candidate. I don't know why the pollsters are so concerned about Worcester woman or Essex man, my voting success is 0%, much more consistent than their records. I will not be amused if you all think it would be funny to vote Labour and spoil my record.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 16:30:30 GMT
I think I'd pay to see colebridgebull turn up at Gloucester RFC wearing a Jez We Can tshirt. See how friendly all those rugby fans are then..
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Post by colebridgebull on Apr 18, 2017 16:39:34 GMT
I think I'd pay to see colebridgebull turn up at Gloucester RFC wearing a Jez We Can tshirt. See how friendly all those rugby fans are then.. I doubt they'd give a toss. But I'll happily do it, if you contribute £100 to the Jamie Cuss fund. deal? Edit- Found a shirt. www.zazzle.co.uk/jeremy_corbyn_jez_we_can_white_tee-235982155157393114Will place the order as soon soon as you confirm your pledge. I'll wear it at Gloucester v Exeter on the last day of the season. (Given I wore a Bullieve T Shirt on National TV, I'll happily go the "extra mile" for a good cause)
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Post by Skomer on Apr 18, 2017 17:15:57 GMT
I think Boris is Uxbridge now. Looks like the markets are betting that TM will go soft on Brexit once hardline tories are neutralised - i.e. long transition and perhaps even membership of the single market. In your dreams Hopes more than dreams, excitable. TM is disingenuous when she says it is for the good of the country - the election is her hope of being able to ignore the hard-line brexiteers in her party and do brexit the TM way - which I guess we are going to hear what that means. That is all she is ever interested in, people doing what she wants. A hint of Recep Tayyip Erdogan about her.
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Post by excitable on Apr 18, 2017 17:22:31 GMT
Erdogan and soft can't be used together
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Post by bigglesbull on Apr 18, 2017 17:25:45 GMT
I think you will find lots of traditional labour voters will be unable to vote for Corbyns idealology, neither will they bring themselves to vote for May or any of the other alternatives. Prediction...the lowest voting turnout ever recorded.
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Post by nobby on Apr 18, 2017 17:39:48 GMT
This is a master stroke from Mrs May, labour supports must be distrort! A strong labour leader would thrive, the useless thing they have got will take the party into 3rd place at the election.
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Post by castlebull on Apr 18, 2017 17:54:05 GMT
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Post by criticscorner on Apr 18, 2017 19:28:41 GMT
Cynical but wise. When you don't have an opposition, and their leader is unelectable, why pass up the chance.
Going to be fun here as many unionists wrestle with their hatred of the Conservative Party in order to use their vote as powerfully as possible against the SNP. This election could be Indyref2 with Labour, Greens and LibDems making up the numbers. Tory MPs may even end up outnumbering pandas if they can harness the Unionist vote and not let it be split 3 ways. The Unionist's enemy is first past the post.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 19:41:14 GMT
I think I'd pay to see colebridgebull turn up at Gloucester RFC wearing a Jez We Can tshirt. See how friendly all those rugby fans are then.. Nice one, jammo - gone up in my estimation by your donation to the Cuss collection (I'm sure £100 is a drop in the ocean for you, but it all helps...).
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Post by excitable on Apr 18, 2017 21:47:04 GMT
Not until after the French & German elections. With a weaker Merkel and a stronger May we may get the Brexit that most people voted for.......a total one
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Post by vectabull on Apr 19, 2017 1:38:09 GMT
True but she's probably seeking a much bigger majority more than anything. I wonder how many on here will be able to pluck up the courage to admit that they'll be voting for JC anyway. Isn't that why the US election and Brexit vote shocked the world? JC, like Trump and Brexit, are notoriously dodgy and laughable options, but people have become so fed up with the alternatives that they have silently gone to the polling station and picked the lesser of two evils. Corbyn would come third in a list of two potential PM's for most people.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 10:28:20 GMT
I think I'd pay to see colebridgebull turn up at Gloucester RFC wearing a Jez We Can tshirt. See how friendly all those rugby fans are then.. I doubt they'd give a toss. But I'll happily do it, if you contribute £100 to the Jamie Cuss fund. deal? Edit- Found a shirt. www.zazzle.co.uk/jeremy_corbyn_jez_we_can_white_tee-235982155157393114Will place the order as soon soon as you confirm your pledge. I'll wear it at Gloucester v Exeter on the last day of the season. (Given I wore a Bullieve T Shirt on National TV, I'll happily go the "extra mile" for a good cause) Well I did think you'd say that, alas, I already made my donation last week and do like to spread my charity donations around a few different causes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 16:37:20 GMT
I doubt they'd give a toss. But I'll happily do it, if you contribute £100 to the Jamie Cuss fund. deal? Edit- Found a shirt. www.zazzle.co.uk/jeremy_corbyn_jez_we_can_white_tee-235982155157393114Will place the order as soon soon as you confirm your pledge. I'll wear it at Gloucester v Exeter on the last day of the season. (Given I wore a Bullieve T Shirt on National TV, I'll happily go the "extra mile" for a good cause) Well I did think you'd say that, alas, I already made my donation last week and do like to spread my charity donations around a few different causes. Softcock
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Post by excitable on Apr 19, 2017 16:42:28 GMT
Adminspeak?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 16:51:20 GMT
I thought the word "stopcock" came from a plumbing handbook.
No idea what it's doing on this here forum.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 17:03:04 GMT
and do like to spread my charity donations around a few different causes
A series of rest homes in Buenos Aires, Montevideo and Pernambuco?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 18:22:41 GMT
Out of interest is there actually anyone on the mod team who isn't extremely left wing? Surely a bit of diversity is needed here. Not that I'm putting my own name forward here but I'd be more than happy to make a few suggestions the next time a position opens up.
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