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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2023 20:20:38 GMT
I remember my brother teaching me how to do my laces (which means I could have been about 15) in the old man's car outside said pub. We would have had plenty of time on our hands.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2023 20:30:26 GMT
Come to think of it, I believe it was originally 'Cheltenham Pale Ale', otherwise known as 'Chelt', before the Cheltenham & Hereford Breweries company* was acquired by Whitbread. *The Hereford brewery was where Tesco is now in Bewell Street, next door to British Canners. It seems odd to think that Whitbread no longer have any involvement in brewing. Since they sold Costa Coffee to Coca Cola, all they own now is the Premier Inn hotel chain. What a mad world. I remember as a kid that where Tesco is now was a scruffy old car park. There were rails set in the ground that my dad said was for rolling the barrels down.
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Post by Hawkeye on Mar 30, 2023 21:53:12 GMT
There were some really poor beers about in those days .. watneys or whitbread trophy anyone ?? ... fair play camra did a great job down the years ! Watney's Red Barrel. Blimey.
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Post by Hawkeye on Mar 30, 2023 22:04:08 GMT
Come to think of it, I believe it was originally 'Cheltenham Pale Ale', otherwise known as 'Chelt', before the Cheltenham & Hereford Breweries company* was acquired by Whitbread. *The Hereford brewery was where Tesco is now in Bewell Street, next door to British Canners. It seems odd to think that Whitbread no longer have any involvement in brewing. Since they sold Costa Coffee to Coca Cola, all they own now is the Premier Inn hotel chain. What a mad world. I'm presuming that was the one started by the father of Alfred Watkins? Presume all you like. I really have no idea. However, I do remember Watkins Flour Mills in Friar's Street. I distinctly recall, as a really young lad at Scudamore County Primary School,* that bunking out across the fence to Watkins next door enabled one to acquire the most delicious, freshly baked, scrummy and warm soft jam doughnut. *I gather that it is now an 'Academy'. WTF?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2023 7:11:51 GMT
I'm presuming that was the one started by the father of Alfred Watkins? Presume all you like. I really have no idea. However, I do remember Watkins Flour Mills in Friar's Street. I distinctly recall, as a really young lad at Scudamore County Primary School,* that bunking out across the fence to Watkins next door enabled one to acquire the most delicious, freshly baked, scrummy and warm soft jam doughnut. *I gather that it is now an 'Academy'. WTF? Having cased it the day before whilst sweeping it's chimney.
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Post by glawsterwhite on Mar 31, 2023 7:31:03 GMT
This thread brings back some memories. Like most here I imagine my first alcoholic drink was cider .. the old gl (“gloster lager”) which I still like. My first beer was from the offy at the Belmont as a callow lad of 14 (oh the shame) - my mate was having bitter but that sounded well .. rather bitter to me so I had my first ever pint of mild ... it was so bad that I’ve very rarely had mild since ...
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Post by GRL on Mar 31, 2023 7:40:56 GMT
Come to think of it, I believe it was originally 'Cheltenham Pale Ale', otherwise known as 'Chelt', before the Cheltenham & Hereford Breweries company* was acquired by Whitbread. *The Hereford brewery was where Tesco is now in Bewell Street, next door to British Canners. It seems odd to think that Whitbread no longer have any involvement in brewing. Since they sold Costa Coffee to Coca Cola, all they own now is the Premier Inn hotel chain. What a mad world. I remember as a kid that where Tesco is now was a scruffy old car park. There were rails set in the ground that my dad said was for rolling the barrels down. Are you sure they weren't "firkins."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2023 8:00:40 GMT
Are you sure that sentence should end with a full stop?
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Post by GRL on Mar 31, 2023 8:04:36 GMT
Are you sure that sentence should end with a full stop? Yes. He'll be sure.
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Post by wyesidewiththebulls on Mar 31, 2023 8:17:11 GMT
Davenports. Actually had a superb pint of it at Old Halesonians Rugby Club this season, brewery now scaled down and only supplies to the West Midlands area. I can still picture the red lorry.
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Post by Incognito on Mar 31, 2023 8:26:15 GMT
I remember as a kid that where Tesco is now was a scruffy old car park. There were rails set in the ground that my dad said was for rolling the barrels down. Are you sure they weren't "firkins." More likely Kilderkins in those days.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2023 10:29:59 GMT
Are you sure they weren't "firkins." More likely Kilderkins in those days. I called it a barrel as I was just a young kid at the time. When you grow up, everyone obviously knows the different sizes by their correct names.
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Post by eggchaserbull on Mar 31, 2023 11:27:33 GMT
Growing up in Hereford, in the days when only keg beer was available, you were stranded in the limbo of abysmal Whitbread beers such as Trophy and Tankard. The odd Ansells pubs (Lich and The Pippin IIRC) were slightly better, and Wolverhampton and Dudley brewery took over the Broadleys and built The Cock of Tupsley under the Banks marque, again a slight improvement.
The big change was the mid 70s when the Landlord of the Saracen's Head, Des, started selling Penrhos* and, later, Jones, ales. I'm not sure whether the Jones beer came from Penrhos or a different brewery. Those of us who weren't old enough to have tasted real ale before suddenly realised what our Fathers and Grandfathers had been telling us about the lost taste of ale. There was no going back.
Courage Directors in its day Draught Bass in its day Deuchars IPA in its day
Sam Smith's Bitter Timothy Taylor Landlord - not as good as it used to be but still better than most Cwtch by Tiny Rebel brewery in Newport
* - Penrhos Court, near Kington: brewery started by Terry Jones of Monty Python fame and Peter Austin, who went on to start Ringwood brewery and advise many new microbreweries in the 1980s
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Post by GRL on Mar 31, 2023 11:29:27 GMT
More likely Kilderkins in those days. I called it a barrel as I was just a young kid at the time. When you grow up, everyone obviously knows the different sizes by their correct names. You'd better tell the (excellent) landlord of the Orange Tree who has 12 (twelve) real ales on tap. None of them Wye Valley Rubbish. He uses the term......wait for it.... "barrel." Just like every other practising landlord. Or indeed landlady. (As opposed to ex ones....)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2023 11:33:11 GMT
I called it a barrel as I was just a young kid at the time. When you grow up, everyone obviously knows the different sizes by their correct names. You'd better tell the (excellent) landlord of the Orange Tree who is 12 (twelve) real ales on tap. None of them Wye Valley Rubbish. He use the term......wait for it.... "barrel." Just like every other practising landlord. Or indeed landlady. (As opposed to ex ones....) I went in there for a swifty not long after it opened and picked one at random. A fairly strong one, 5% ish. It wasn't very nice. Are the beers alright though and I picked poorly? It is a nice pub the Orange Tree and they have spent a few quid so you want it to do well. The beers in there when it was a veggie pub were stunning. Properly kept German wonder beers.
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Post by GRL on Mar 31, 2023 11:43:34 GMT
You'd better tell the (excellent) landlord of the Orange Tree who is 12 (twelve) real ales on tap. None of them Wye Valley Rubbish. He use the term......wait for it.... "barrel." Just like every other practising landlord. Or indeed landlady. (As opposed to ex ones....) I went in there for a swifty not long after it opened and picked one at random. A fairly strong one, 5% ish. It wasn't very nice. Are the beers alright though and I picked poorly? It is a nice pub the Orange Tree and they have spent a few quid so you want it to do well. The beers in there when it was a veggie pub were stunning. Properly kept German wonder beers. They always allow you to have a sample before launching into a pint. I agree they're not all great and they do stock at least two dark milds. One of them is (Black Country Ales) Pig on the Wall which is extremely popular; they do at least six barrels of that every weekend. It's not for me; I prefer the bitters or golden ones - of which I would say there are always 2 or 3 very decent ones. BFG is the one for me and, I understand, many others. It's some pint of beer. All in my opinion, of course.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2023 11:46:05 GMT
I went in there for a swifty not long after it opened and picked one at random. A fairly strong one, 5% ish. It wasn't very nice. Are the beers alright though and I picked poorly? It is a nice pub the Orange Tree and they have spent a few quid so you want it to do well. The beers in there when it was a veggie pub were stunning. Properly kept German wonder beers. They always allow you to have a sample before launching into a pint. I agree they're not all great and they do stock at least two dark milds. One of them is (Black Country Ales) Pig on the Wall which is extremely popular; they do at least six barrels of that every weekend. It's not for me; I prefer the bitters or golden ones - of which I would say there are always 2 or 3 very decent ones. BFG is the one for me and, I understand, many others. It's some pint of beer. All in my opinion, of course. Just out of interest, other than just playing the game on here, why all the theatricals with the Wye Valley kit?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2023 11:48:56 GMT
I tell you a cracking beer in a bottle, pennies as well.
You know all the supermarkets do them 4 bottles for the price of 3, 4 for £6 type deals with ales. Outside of that at under a quid a bottle is..
Banks Best Bitter. 3.8% so easy on the liver too.
It knocks socks off most of them Bishops Helmet offerings in my humble opinion.
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Post by Hawkeye on Mar 31, 2023 11:56:28 GMT
I went in there for a swifty not long after it opened and picked one at random. A fairly strong one, 5% ish. It wasn't very nice. Are the beers alright though and I picked poorly? It is a nice pub the Orange Tree and they have spent a few quid so you want it to do well. The beers in there when it was a veggie pub were stunning. Properly kept German wonder beers. They always allow you to have a sample before launching into a pint. I agree they're not all great and they do stock at least two dark milds. One of them is (Black Country Ales) Pig on the Wall which is extremely popular; they do at least six barrels of that every weekend. It's not for me; I prefer the bitters or golden ones - of which I would say there are always 2 or 3 very decent ones. BFG is the one for me and, I understand, many others. It's some pint of beer. All in my opinion, of course. I've just been reading about BFG on the BBC Sport Football website. Apparently it's what Millwall supporters call one of their players, Andreas Voglsammer. It stands for "Big F...... German".
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Post by eggchaserbull on Mar 31, 2023 12:30:32 GMT
I called it a barrel as I was just a young kid at the time. When you grow up, everyone obviously knows the different sizes by their correct names. You'd better tell the (excellent) landlord of the Orange Tree who has 12 (twelve) real ales on tap. None of them Wye Valley Rubbish. He uses the term......wait for it.... "barrel." Just like every other practising landlord. Or indeed landlady. (As opposed to ex ones....) There's going to be a few disappointed punters going into the Orange Tree to have a pint of each of those 12 real ales on tap. They'll get to numbers 11 and 12 and find that they are real ciders, which is quite a shock to the tastebuds.* You're quite right, the BFG is a cracking pint, my favourite of the Black Country Ales on offer. The Pig on the Wall is a strange one, a dark mild which is quite bitter, but I do like it; I think you need to drink it, and only it, in a session to appreciate it. * - Or so I've been told
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