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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 22:13:27 GMT
Atm it's far to 'cliquey' at the top. Maybe some fresh bloody into HUST is what's needed. I agree. Maybe when somebody new joins then we don't get on their back ,and actually appreciate that we have some new "bloody"?
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Post by yellowjersey90 on Aug 30, 2015 22:14:59 GMT
I agree. Maybe when somebody new joins then we don't get on their back ,and actually appreciate that we have some new "bloody"? New bloody is better than the stale bloody at the bloody moment.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 22:15:17 GMT
I trust plenty of people. Just not on the Trust. (winky thing) So we're screwed then. If any of us stand and try to do the right thing then you'll automatically assume that we're up to now good. What's the point? We'll never be able to have fan representation as as soon as on of us stands then everybody will get on their back. This /\
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Post by oldmeadowender on Aug 30, 2015 22:15:53 GMT
Because so much trust has been eroded at the Trust, it would take a lot of time to trust the Trust again. With so much mistrust about, you might even need to start a new organisation. Not sure I can trust the Trust again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 22:18:16 GMT
I dunno why people even bother standing for HUST if you dicks are gonna act like this. I'd love to stand and love to stick up for what we believe in but if it's met with this shite then fùck it. I'm embarassed to support the same club as you paranoid bunch of asss Mike, someone has suggested you may have had one too many tonight. I do hope that's true. Even so, even if that is so, then I humbly suggest that your obvious total inability to understand simple written English, or engage in constructive discussion with your fellow supporters, without resorting to such pathetic insults for no good reason at all, make it bleeding obvious to all on Sunday why you should NEVER consider joining ANY public organisation at all. Thank goodness those who have done in the past, including Rodders, have NOT been like you. If your groundless insults are aimed at me, then please be assured I'm equally embarrarsed to support the same club as you. I have. Sorry, I don't take too kindly too blatant lies about a close friend. The reaction to somebody standing to do some good for us has been appalling. Whether I'm drunk or not it's pretty clear that the investigating into who he is and what his background is will obviously put anyone off stepping forward to represent us. Why would you when you know that people will be trying to drag up anything they can about you that they can find about you on the internet, regardless of whether it's a threat or not?
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Post by bigglesbull on Aug 30, 2015 22:19:22 GMT
Because so much trust has been eroded at the Trust, it would take a lot of time to trust the Trust again. With so much mistrust about, you might even need to start a new organisation. Not sure I can trust the Trust again. I never trusted it enough to join in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 22:20:46 GMT
Because so much trust has been eroded at the Trust, it would take a lot of time to trust the Trust again. With so much mistrust about, you might even need to start a new organisation. Not sure I can trust the Trust again. So, like I said, we're screwed. There's no way back without everyone being scrutinised. Therefore, why bother?
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Post by oldmeadowender on Aug 30, 2015 22:24:36 GMT
Because so much trust has been eroded at the Trust, it would take a lot of time to trust the Trust again. With so much mistrust about, you might even need to start a new organisation. Not sure I can trust the Trust again. So, like I said, we're screwed. There's no way back without everyone being scrutinised. Therefore, why bother? I have some sympathy for where you're coming from but sometimes you need to sweep the cupboard clean, rather than appoint a new spokesman for the dirt in the cupboard (so to speak). Do you understand what a communications officer does?
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Post by somnambulist on Aug 30, 2015 22:27:26 GMT
I'm grateful that Andy Carr wants to devote time to HUST as a board member. But I would like to know whether his place on the board is already permanent (two years), or contingent on his being elected by the membership next month. I find the HUST statement quite confusing.
"Andy was co-opted at Thursday’s Board meeting and is one of four applicants to be currently standing at the forthcoming elections."
And given the proximity of the elections it seems a strange time to co-opt a new member. Ideally I'd like as many as possible to be elected by members.
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Post by oldmeadowender on Aug 30, 2015 22:30:59 GMT
That'd be right! (as the Aussies say)
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Post by Thank You Archie Phillips on Aug 30, 2015 22:36:14 GMT
So the fact he is on a website that's got nothing to do with HUST or football for that matter, and he was in a Fantasy Football league, he must be one of the current boards mates? Jeez It's little wonder no one wants to join the board when stuff like this is posted on here. Rodders, I know you from meeting you and more importantly your past actions to be a 110% fan and genuine supporter, in all senses, of The Whites. I am too. I'm also totally 110% confident that you have always done your best while involved with HUST etc. I genuinely admire you for putting yourself up for the board, and more so for being "man" enough to come on here these last few days and speak about HUST activities as you have done, openly and honestly. I think that takes a real man to do so, and hats off to you. I can fully understand why you may possibly feel as if people have it in for you, especially "faceless forum users", certainly you've been asked to field a lot of awkward questions lately. I for one would not have been brave enough to do as you've done, and I do admire you for it. I suspect the ongoing "negativity" that some display towards you is now saddening or even upsetting you. Come the morning you may look back and notice I was not one of those people, nor will I be in the future. I hope you can accept my heartfelt apologies as my post has apparently upset, offended or angered you; that was NEVER my intention in any way. I didn't for one minute suggest that "our" Andy Carr, who from what I can see may easily be the person referenced on both the above websites, is "one of the current boards mates", or indeed anything else. Yet still I apologise wholeheartedly if that's how you saw it. You sir have done enough good things for The Whites, and recently taken too much unwarranted grief, for me to wish you amy sort of ill at all, quite the opposite in fact. Please take care of yourself, your friend and admirer, Archie.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 22:58:22 GMT
This thread got way out of hand. I feel a little bit sorry for Archie here. All he did was look the guy up - after all, we haven't been introduced in here. No harm in that! It's others that conflated the 'Yes Man' and 'mate of the board' allegations with his post.
Anyway, wot Somn says. It does seem like a funny time to be co-opting new board members, I guess they are short-staffed at the moment since everyone else of sound mind left the building. The alarming thing is how confusing this whole electron process seems to be.
I do hope nobody has really been put off standing for HUST off the back of this thread of all things.
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Post by somnambulist on Aug 30, 2015 23:07:50 GMT
This thread got way out of hand. I feel a little bit sorry for Archie here. All he did was look the guy up - after all, we haven't been introduced in here. No harm in that! It's others that conflated the 'Yes Man' and 'mate of the board' allegations with his post. Anyway, wot Somn says. It does seem like a funny time to be co-opting new board members, I guess they are short-staffed at the moment since everyone else of sound mind left the building. The alarming thing is how confusing this whole electron process seems to be. I do hope nobody has really been put off standing for HUST off the back of this thread of all things. By now standard Hereford fan operating procedure.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 23:17:47 GMT
Since July HUST have been looking for somebody to fill a role. Somebody put themselves forward. The only strange thing is that somebody would want to put themselves up for your scrutiny. I feel sorry for Andy. I wouldn't expect anyone else to stand and represent any of you if this is how you react when they try to do such a thing. bullsnews.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/hust-vacancies-membership-secretary.html
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 23:20:47 GMT
Go to bed and stop being such a drama queen.
#ImWithAndyCarr
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Post by somnambulist on Aug 30, 2015 23:25:00 GMT
Since July HUST have been looking for somebody to fill a role. Somebody put themselves forward. The only strange thing is that somebody would want to put themselves up for your scrutiny. I feel sorry for Andy. I wouldn't expect anyone else to stand and represent any of you if this is how you react when they try to do such a thing. bullsnews.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/hust-vacancies-membership-secretary.htmlThat's the problem in a nutshell, Mike. HUST has been so discredited that it will take a monumental effort for it to regain credibility. I'm afraid I don't blame posters on here for that (and nor do I apportion blame on certain board members). For what it's worth, I think you'd be a great addition to the board if you decide to run. Or anyone else with an independent mind and a commitment to transparency and better representation for the members.
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Post by Thank You Archie Phillips on Aug 30, 2015 23:31:48 GMT
Mike, someone has suggested you may have had one too many tonight. I do hope that's true. Even so, even if that is so, then I humbly suggest that your obvious total inability to understand simple written English, or engage in constructive discussion with your fellow supporters, without resorting to such pathetic insults for no good reason at all, make it bleeding obvious to all on Sunday why you should NEVER consider joining ANY public organisation at all. Thank goodness those who have done in the past, including Rodders, have NOT been like you. If your groundless insults are aimed at me, then please be assured I'm equally embarrarsed to support the same club as you. I have. Sorry, I don't take too kindly too blatant lies about a close friend. The reaction to somebody standing to do some good for us has been appalling. Whether I'm drunk or not it's pretty clear that the investigating into who he is and what his background is will obviously put anyone off stepping forward to represent us. Why would you when you know that people will be trying to drag up anything they can about you that they can find about you on the internet, regardless of whether it's a threat or not? Mike, sorry for slow response, I've been undergoing a medical to try and see how I've suddenly become Mad Mich and not Aplful Archie. Luckily it was a false alarm. I'm glad you're defending your friend, genuine good on you. PLEASE remind ME where I have posted/said/thought "blatant lies" about your friend ??. Or expalin why MY reaction is so appalling. ALL I did was spend 30 seconds trying to find out a little more about someone, not exactly underhanded gutter-press tactics or Sherlock Holmes rocket science. In case you've not noticed in recent weeks the HUST board have had a little bad press, so hardly surprising if an announcement of a new Board member might raise a few eyebrows. Indeed said person should reasonably expect to be greeted carefully by the Membership at first. HUST is an organisation supposedly representing ME and other forum-members who tonight have wondered who this new person is, let's face it the HUST statements haven't been over-informative have they ? A photo/penpicture could and probably should have been produced with the name, so we knew who was going to be representing US, the paying members. What's more, I suggested the links I found MAY be "our" Andy Carr, I didn't give any opinions at all, bar ask if the photo seemed likely to be "our" man. To me those sites clearly suggested they indeed related to "our" man, and more importantly, did a pretty darn good job of showing him to be the RIGHT sort of person to be representing US on the Board; a longterm supporter, a soccer fan from Hereford, a welltravelled and apparently intelligent person with good journalistic skills, etc etc. Why on Earth NOT share this news, thats good PR for him isn't it ?. If there's anything at all negative abt him, or even blatant lies..., on those sites then they were written and posted on the web by the man himself, not by me. Yet you dare to call me paranoid (which I actually have every right to be considering the substantial time and considerabull savings the club has LOST me over recent years), so I can live with that. But the insults are way beyond the pale, and undeserved. Credit to you for defending your "close friend", within seconds of the post being made(almost as if you ARE him), but for goodness sake find out who your enemies or attackers are before firing insults off. I am NOT yours, or Andy Carr's, enemy. Or for that matter am I Mich. Or even Mitch...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 23:41:02 GMT
I have. Sorry, I don't take too kindly too blatant lies about a close friend. The reaction to somebody standing to do some good for us has been appalling. Whether I'm drunk or not it's pretty clear that the investigating into who he is and what his background is will obviously put anyone off stepping forward to represent us. Why would you when you know that people will be trying to drag up anything they can about you that they can find about you on the internet, regardless of whether it's a threat or not? Mike, sorry for slow response, I've been undergoing a medical to try and see how I've suddenly become Mad Mich and not Aplful Archie. Luckily it was a false alarm. I'm glad you're defending your friend, genuine good on you. PLEASE remind ME where I have posted/said/thought "blatant lies" about your friend ??. Or expalin why MY reaction is so appalling. ALL I did was spend 30 seconds trying to find out a little more about someone, not exactly underhanded gutter-press tactics or Sherlock Holmes rocket science. In case you've not noticed in recent weeks the HUST board have had a little bad press, so hardly surprising if an announcement of a new Board member might raise a few eyebrows. Indeed said person should reasonably expect to be greeted carefully by the Membership at first. HUST is an organisation supposedly representing ME and other forum-members who tonight have wondered who this new person is, let's face it the HUST statements haven't been over-informative have they ? A photo/penpicture could and probably should have been produced with the name, so we knew who was going to be representing US, the paying members. What's more, I suggested the links I found MAY be "our" Andy Carr, I didn't give any opinions at all, bar ask if the photo seemed likely to be "our" man. To me those sites clearly suggested they indeed related to "our" man, and more importantly, did a pretty darn good job of showing him to be the RIGHT sort of person to be representing US on the Board; a longterm supporter, a soccer fan from Hereford, a welltravelled and apparently intelligent person with good journalistic skills, etc etc. Why on Earth NOT share this news, thats good PR for him isn't it ?. If there's anything at all negative abt him, or even blatant lies..., on those sites then they were written and posted on the web by the man himself, not by me. Yet you dare to call me paranoid (which I actually have every right to be considering the substantial time and considerabull savings the club has LOST me over recent years), so I can live with that. But the insults are way beyond the pale, and undeserved. Credit to you for defending your "close friend", within seconds of the post being made (almost as if you ARE him), but for goodness sake find out who your enemies or attackers are before firing insults off. I am NOT yours, or Andy Carr's, enemy. Or for that matter am I Mich. Or even Mitch... As Archie's official legal representative on this thread, I would like at this point to state with utmost clarity that my client neither supposes that the poster known as Mike-Hole-In-The-Wall's true identity is that of the new recruit to HUST's board, nor does he suggest that this circumstance, were it to be true, which it is not, would reflect badly on either the personages in question. Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.
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Post by Thank You Archie Phillips on Aug 30, 2015 23:47:37 GMT
This thread got way out of hand. I feel a little bit sorry for Archie here. All he did was look the guy up - after all, we haven't been introduced in here. No harm in that! It's others that conflated the 'Yes Man' and 'mate of the board' allegations with his post. Anyway, wot Somn says. It does seem like a funny time to be co-opting new board members, I guess they are short-staffed at the moment since everyone else of sound mind left the building. The alarming thing is how confusing this whole electron process seems to be. I do hope nobody has really been put off standing for HUST off the back of this thread of all things. By now standard Hereford fan operating procedure. Is that a bad or good thing ?. Please advise, thanks. (Not that I'll be doing it again, unless fowlplay is apparent. Clearly curiosity kills cats and seemingly board-using Whites, and I want our fan-base to grow. Apologies for inadvertantly sending this thread off-topic. From now on I'll keep well clear and avoid the insults, I can see too many parallels with this forum and BB.) TTFN and COYW. And ffs let's try and Stay United.
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Post by Rusty Trombone on Aug 30, 2015 23:51:32 GMT
I'm sorely tempted to put myself forward. I'd see myself as a revisionist, there to soothe the savage beast that is the Hereford fan base and ensure the legacy of Lonsdale is polished.
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