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Post by tigerfeet on Apr 1, 2024 19:40:59 GMT
Look on the bright side, South Shields, Boston and Chester all lost today so we might see today as a point gained.
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Post by psychedelictony on Apr 1, 2024 19:53:02 GMT
Look on the bright side, South Shields, Boston and Chester all lost today so we might see today as a point gained. The bright side is we are safe from relegation. The reality is we are mid table and will finish mid table after constant year on year top 2 3 or 4 attendances. Something doesn't add up.
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Post by Differentiabull on Apr 1, 2024 20:05:12 GMT
Look on the bright side, South Shields, Boston and Chester all lost today so we might see today as a point gained. The bright side is we are safe from relegation. The reality is we are mid table and will finish mid table after constant year on year top 2 3 or 4 attendances. Something doesn't add up. I'm not keeping on top of the goings as much as I used to so thought there might be a good reason for it, but after however many seasons at this level I do have an overriding question of why aren't we pissing this tinpot league?
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banjo
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Post by banjo on Apr 1, 2024 20:11:50 GMT
Can anyone tell me who is in real control of our football club?
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Post by psychedelictony on Apr 1, 2024 20:12:33 GMT
Good question. For some reason Tamworth are. 3 of our ex players, on half the gates at best. Make of that what you will.
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Post by psychedelictony on Apr 1, 2024 20:12:55 GMT
Can anyone tell me who is in real control of our football club? No idea
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Andrew
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Post by Andrew on Apr 1, 2024 20:16:12 GMT
Can anyone tell me who is in real control of our football club? No idea They hide in the shadows
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Post by tigerfeet on Apr 1, 2024 20:33:46 GMT
Are you suggesting the club is being run by Hank Marvin and his mates?
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Post by White Lightning on Apr 1, 2024 20:36:20 GMT
MT is going to have nightmares now. Especially given his love of cheese.
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Post by psychedelictony on Apr 1, 2024 20:38:52 GMT
Are you suggesting the club is being run by Hank Marvin and his mates? Been Hank Marvin at Edgar Street a few times but waited till after the game
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2024 20:59:39 GMT
Wonder if Hank gets tired of being offered a sandwich every time he introduces himself.
Fed up even.
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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Apr 1, 2024 21:21:21 GMT
My first game for a while. Same as every match I've watched this season though, Hereford better team, but concede some shit goals. Not sure why Philips was on the pitch for so long. Ikeke looks a player. Cameron still appears to be a liability. Pond is a keeper that will be remembered in 20 years time. Bloke near me was going mental about the ref, but I don't think he was that bad. Fun last ten. Thought Pond was going to come up for a free kick at 2-2 for a second, and if Willo had scored right at the death there would have been carnage. Probably need to win the last 4 now to have a chance. Everyone near me was apoplectic. No excuses, could and should have won that game despite the officiating, but to say he'd lost control implies that at one point, he actually had some. He didn't. Buxton took the p1ss in mminute one, were allowed to, and so continued to do so. It was horrible to watch, but they out Alfretonned Alfreton, which in a perverse way, is some achievement, and were allowed to do so by the most inept, and yes, craven refereeing display I've seen in a long long time. That the Buxton physio spent 15 minutes on the park, there were five/six subs, the keeper took eons (is it no longer six seconds then?) every time he touched it, and yet we had just ten minutes added in total? It's a shame for the game that Buxton, with nowt but pride to play for, opted to go down the non-football route from the start, but that is their prerogative. Ours is to not get dragged into that sort of guff, one because we're no bloody good at it, and two, it just makes the oppo do it all the more. I admire Nathan Cameron's commitment, but FFS man, stop jumping up and down in front of the alleged official, and focus on sorting the team out.
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Post by Hawkeye on Apr 1, 2024 22:08:59 GMT
My first game for a while. Same as every match I've watched this season though, Hereford better team, but concede some shit goals. Not sure why Philips was on the pitch for so long. Ikeke looks a player. Cameron still appears to be a liability. Pond is a keeper that will be remembered in 20 years time. Bloke near me was going mental about the ref, but I don't think he was that bad. Fun last ten. Thought Pond was going to come up for a free kick at 2-2 for a second, and if Willo had scored right at the death there would have been carnage. Probably need to win the last 4 now to have a chance. Everyone near me was apoplectic. No excuses, could and should have won that game despite the officiating, but to say he'd lost control implies that at one point, he actually had some. He didn't. Buxton took the p1ss in mminute one, were allowed to, and so continued to do so. It was horrible to watch, but they out Alfretonned Alfreton, which a perverse way, is some achievement, and were allowed to do so by the most inept, and yes, craven refereeing display I've seen in a long long time. That the Buxton physio spent 15 minutes on the park, there were five/six subs, the keeper took eons (is it no longer six seconds then?) every time he touched it, and yet we had just ten minutes added in total? It's a shame for the game that Buxton, with nowt but pride to play for, opted to go down the non-football route from the start, but that is their prerogative. Ours is to not get dragged into that sort of guff, one because we're no bloody good at it, and two, it just makes the oppo do it all the more. I admire Nathan Cameron's commitment, but FFS man, stop jumping up and down in front of the alleged official, and focus on sorting the team out. That is a very good interpretation of what happened today. The referee was the most gullible/incompetent that I've seen this season. And there have been a few incompetents. However, we lacked the 'streetwisdom' required to overcome these tactics, which are not a new phenomenon, they've been evident all season. It's too late now to 'wise up' for this season but, for sure, some nous needs to be instilled/deployed next time around. This is a god awful league in which to play. And to watch.
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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Apr 1, 2024 22:29:58 GMT
Should we be thankful that not every team in this division is Alfrebuxton? Maybe, but perhaps that’s part of the reason why these clubs struggle to attract a crowd.
I’ve watched six or eight NLS teams over the last two seasons, a small sample admittedly, but FWIW, all at least try to concentrate on the football, and not the officials.
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Post by White Lightning on Apr 2, 2024 4:48:32 GMT
Should we be thankful that not every team in this division is Alfrebuxton? Maybe, but perhaps that’s part of the reason why these clubs struggle to attract a crowd. I’ve watched six or eight NLS teams over the last two seasons, a small sample admittedly, but FWIW, all at least try to concentrate on the football, and not the officials. Correct. If a player goes down in NLS clutching their face it is a genuine champagne cork 😃
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Post by Differentiabull on Apr 2, 2024 7:04:17 GMT
My first game for a while. Same as every match I've watched this season though, Hereford better team, but concede some shit goals. Not sure why Philips was on the pitch for so long. Ikeke looks a player. Cameron still appears to be a liability. Pond is a keeper that will be remembered in 20 years time. Bloke near me was going mental about the ref, but I don't think he was that bad. Fun last ten. Thought Pond was going to come up for a free kick at 2-2 for a second, and if Willo had scored right at the death there would have been carnage. Probably need to win the last 4 now to have a chance. Everyone near me was apoplectic. No excuses, could and should have won that game despite the officiating, but to say he'd lost control implies that at one point, he actually had some. He didn't. Buxton took the p1ss in mminute one, were allowed to, and so continued to do so. It was horrible to watch, but they out Alfretonned Alfreton, which in a perverse way, is some achievement, and were allowed to do so by the most inept, and yes, craven refereeing display I've seen in a long long time. That the Buxton physio spent 15 minutes on the park, there were five/six subs, the keeper took eons (is it no longer six seconds then?) every time he touched it, and yet we had just ten minutes added in total? It's a shame for the game that Buxton, with nowt but pride to play for, opted to go down the non-football route from the start, but that is their prerogative. Ours is to not get dragged into that sort of guff, one because we're no bloody good at it, and two, it just makes the oppo do it all the more. I admire Nathan Cameron's commitment, but FFS man, stop jumping up and down in front of the alleged official, and focus on sorting the team out. You're not wrong with all the above. But that's standard away team fare that I've seen at Edgar Street countless times before and will surely see countless times again. If we'd converted our early pressure into goals then they wouldn't have had a lead to protect. The pretence of head injuries is a scourge on the game, but I don't know how you resolve it.
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Post by GRL on Apr 2, 2024 7:40:16 GMT
We need to stop the punching above our weight narrative. We punch a long way below our weight.
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Post by greekgod on Apr 2, 2024 8:55:36 GMT
Everyone near me was apoplectic. No excuses, could and should have won that game despite the officiating, but to say he'd lost control implies that at one point, he actually had some. He didn't. Buxton took the p1ss in mminute one, were allowed to, and so continued to do so. It was horrible to watch, but they out Alfretonned Alfreton, which in a perverse way, is some achievement, and were allowed to do so by the most inept, and yes, craven refereeing display I've seen in a long long time. That the Buxton physio spent 15 minutes on the park, there were five/six subs, the keeper took eons (is it no longer six seconds then?) every time he touched it, and yet we had just ten minutes added in total? It's a shame for the game that Buxton, with nowt but pride to play for, opted to go down the non-football route from the start, but that is their prerogative. Ours is to not get dragged into that sort of guff, one because we're no bloody good at it, and two, it just makes the oppo do it all the more. I admire Nathan Cameron's commitment, but FFS man, stop jumping up and down in front of the alleged official, and focus on sorting the team out. You're not wrong with all the above. But that's standard away team fare that I've seen at Edgar Street countless times before and will surely see countless times again. If we'd converted our early pressure into goals then they wouldn't have had a lead to protect. The pretence of head injuries is a scourge on the game, but I don't know how you resolve it. "Look son, if that bang to the head requires that much treatment, you'd best get off the pitch for 10 minutes for a HIA" Doesn't stop them making up another injury to stop the game (that Buxton player Wright, managed to injure more body parts than actually exist) but bottom line, it is only the referee that can stop this (that's his job) but I guess only if it is properly and strongly mandated from above, but that's only likely when you're actually trying to sell the match for money and need it to be a spectacle. I find it interesting that as a club, for most of the time (not all) and despite changing managers, we have always wanted to play the game and for the most part not indulge in the dark side. What we're missing is that being snow white does not actually get you points, and possibly not even an award at this level. One debate is whether we should improve our dark arts, but as a minimum, surely ditch the complaining on the pitch because with the current batch of officials (who appear to be the worse than those in the Midland league or maybe they're just worse everywhere these days) there is minimal positive outcome from it and sometimes we're not so quick ourselves to get on with the game when grouping by the halfway line for drinks and chat during a stoppage. Get ourselves ready straight away, make the ref look a fool each time by having all our 11 ready to go (every time at every stoppage).
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Post by carrotcruncher on Apr 2, 2024 10:06:18 GMT
We not averse to some cheating ourselves.
Pond falling to the floor to waste time, Tex diving and trying to con the ref, Howkins getting a Southport player sent off are examples.
We've used the head injury tactic too.
The better refs make teams aware that he or she thinks they're taking the mick by just making the 'injured' player wait a little longer to get back on. Can't remember which game recently but the ref employed exactly that tactic and it certainly helped; yesterday's official was far too easy to manipulate.
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Post by greekgod on Apr 2, 2024 11:03:48 GMT
We not averse to some cheating ourselves. Pond falling to the floor to waste time, Tex diving and trying to con the ref, Howkins getting a Southport player sent off are examples. We've used the head injury tactic too. The better refs make teams aware that he or she thinks they're taking the mick by just making the 'injured' player wait a little longer to get back on. Can't remember which game recently but the ref employed exactly that tactic and it certainly helped; yesterday's official was far too easy to manipulate. But other fans would do well to list all the examples for their own club, doubt even the most avid Buxton fan at yesterdays game, could list even half of the examples of 1 player never mind the whole team, though only a day on.
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