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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 20:38:37 GMT
Personally it's getting to the point where I say OK "No Deal" it seems - then say to the Brexiteers - your shiite - you sort it out.
Although I do agree with Jammo in that if you want to negotiate a deal you need to have to at least threaten to invoke the worst option for the EU. Which it appears now is only France and Germany. Anyway, I digress.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 20:53:41 GMT
Seriously, the major supermarkets have had 2 and a half years to prepare for Brexit and they've suddenly started panicking just a couple of months before we leave? I'm calling FAKENEWS on this one. To be fair like, initially we were told we'd have a new trade deal in place in the EU after two years. Then we realised that actually we'd only agree to leave, and worry about future stuff later. Now we can't even get a deal to leave. And suddenly it seems like we could possibly countenance leaving without a deal. Noone voted for this chain of events in 2016. What - him out of Herman and the Hermits? |
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Post by Monkey Tennis on Jan 30, 2019 20:56:16 GMT
Personally it's getting to the point where I say OK "No Deal" it seems - then say to the Brexiteers - your shiite - you sort it out. Although I do agree with Jammo in that if you want to negotiate a deal you need to have to at least threaten to invoke the worst option for the EU. Which it appears now is only France and Germany. Anyway, I digress. Exactly what France, Germany and the rest of Europe are now saying to us, it would seem. And who can blame them? |
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Post by mikeunderpenyard on Jan 30, 2019 21:01:40 GMT
To be fair like, initially we were told we'd have a new trade deal in place in the EU after two years. Then we realised that actually we'd only agree to leave, and worry about future stuff later. Now we can't even get a deal to leave. And suddenly it seems like we could possibly countenance leaving without a deal. Noone voted for this chain of events in 2016. What - him out of Herman and the Hermits? Probably how we’ll all end up. he knows. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 21:01:59 GMT
Personally it's getting to the point where I say OK "No Deal" it seems - then say to the Brexiteers - your shiite - you sort it out. Although I do agree with Jammo in that if you want to negotiate a deal you need to have to at least threaten to invoke the worst option for the EU. Which it appears now is only France and Germany. Anyway, I digress. Exactly what France, Germany and the rest of Europe are now saying to us, it would seem. And who can blame them? Let's face it they must be on the point of telling us to feck off anyway. Way too much dithering about. Embarrassing. |
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Post by Monkey Tennis on Jan 30, 2019 21:09:27 GMT
Exactly what France, Germany and the rest of Europe are now saying to us, it would seem. And who can blame them? Let's face it they must be on the point of telling us to feck off anyway. Way too much dithering about. Embarrassing. Wouldn't blame them at all. An entirely pointless, misguided and very expensive exercise. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 22:02:20 GMT
Something tells me I'm into Something Good.
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Post by Palms Halt on Jan 30, 2019 22:15:24 GMT
Seriously, the major supermarkets have had 2 and a half years to prepare for Brexit and they've suddenly started panicking just a couple of months before we leave? I'm calling FAKENEWS on this one. What could they have done? Eveything’s been so uncertain during that period due to a useless government comprising of half of them wanting Brexit but not wanting the responsibility of carrying it out, and the other half not wanting it but bumbling on making a mess of trying to deliver it at any cost regardless. How can businesses plan with that shambles going on? How can supermarkets be expected to buy fresh food in two years in advance? If I buy vegetables toda6 then they’re no good in a week, never mind a couple of years time |
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Post by ronnieclayton on Jan 30, 2019 22:51:12 GMT
Situation TARFUN atm
FUBAR rapidly approaching.
Idiots all.
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Post by Gresty on Feb 6, 2019 22:11:25 GMT
Tusk, Tusk!
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Post by ronnieclayton on Feb 6, 2019 23:13:26 GMT
Sharp intake of breath..................
Someone getting way too close to the truth - but we can't be having that from some European. All the more reason to buggar off.
All the Brexit misinformation came to my mind at the quiz this evening in one of the questions.
'Which 20th Century British Prime Minister said in the House of Commons 'A lie can be halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on.'
No googling.
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Post by Palms Halt on Feb 7, 2019 8:33:33 GMT
I'm glad he has the balls to say what none of our politicians will. What these people promised, without having any semblance of a plan as to how they could achieve it, was criminal. If they'd been honest and said "this is what we'd like to happen, but it might not be achievable. If you vote to leave then we'll try, but the end result could be different", and the public voted in favour anyway then I'd be fine with it, but we all know that didn't happen |
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Post by Differentiabull on Feb 7, 2019 9:40:59 GMT
I like Donald Tusk. Top boy.
Someone made a point in Twitter about how given Farage and Rees-Mogg were chomping like bastards on Tusk's remarks indicates that he's right.
Getting to squeaky bum time now.
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Post by colebridgebull on Feb 7, 2019 10:06:53 GMT
Tusk is, of course, spot on. Interesting that certain elements are spinning his comments like mad to suggest that he is in someway attacking all Leave voters when it's perfectly obvious that he's confining his remarks to those who have sought to champion the benefits (nope-still nothing) of leaving without taking the trouble of actually coming up with any coherent plan about how to do it. By that, he means the likes of Davis, Rees-Mogg, Gove, Johnson. No-one else.
I've seen some ridiculous WW2 themed responses to his comments. From people I regarded as rational. Just extraordinary.
The truth bomb has been dropped.
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Post by Gresty on Feb 7, 2019 10:14:55 GMT
Tusk is, of course, spot on. Interesting that certain elements are spinning his comments like mad to suggest that he is in someway attacking all Leave voters when it's perfectly obvious that he's confining his remarks to those who have sought to champion the benefits (nope-still nothing) of leaving without taking the trouble of actually coming up with any coherent plan about how to do it. By that, he means the likes of Davis, Rees-Mogg, Gove, Johnson. No-one else. I've seen some ridiculous WW2 themed responses to his comments. From people I regarded as rational. Just extraordinary. The truth bomb has been dropped. You omitted the most obvious target of Tusk's comment: The Tw*t Cameron. The architect of the sh*tstorm that has enveloped both the UK and the rest of the EU. It was he who unleashed this whole thing. The others that you list were/are simply opportunists. |
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Post by changeabull on Feb 7, 2019 10:29:20 GMT
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Post by Palms Halt on Feb 7, 2019 10:30:17 GMT
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Post by Palms Halt on Feb 7, 2019 10:31:22 GMT
Typical diversion tactics. Nobody is taking lessons from him. He just said something publicly that was correct. Just because he's done something in the past that isn't good, doesn't make this point any less valid. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 10:55:31 GMT
I think we've seen a new level of stupidity in this thread. If Mr Tusk had said these people are careless or nonsensical it would have been brushed off as nothing. Its the part about saying they have a place in hell that I think almost anyone would take issue with especially if it happened the other way round. Its basically putting them alongside rapists and murderers. The extreme irony of course being that those people are the ones who are thought of very highly by no other than our beloved colebridgebull. I wonder what place there is for those who helped them get their jail sentences down by half while victims continue to suffer.
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Post by colebridgebull on Feb 7, 2019 11:03:07 GMT
I refer my friend to the response of Peroni just the other day.
Diddums.
(just to add-sentencing of murderers and rapists (not that you're being emotive or anything here) is the sole preserve of "ticketed" judges using guidelines set by Government via the Sentencing Guideline Council. If you murder someone, you get a life sentence, with a minimum term. That is not subject to release at the halfway stage. Most sentences for rape also do not attract release at the halfway stage-this is usually reliant on the parole board recommending release (see Worboys for example). I have met a few murderers and rapists-do I "like" them? Odd question. I take a professional position as I have this crazy belief that everyone deserves a fair trial. And that the sentence should fit the crime.
As ever, Jammo, your posting on anything other than football matters does you little credit)
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