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Post by Palms Halt on Jan 29, 2019 14:43:10 GMT
I'm actually stunned by the ignorance of some of our household lefties. Hang your heads in shame for ignoring what has been one of the most despicable examples of racism in a large party in the modern era. Its funny isn't it though that a man who will happily meet well known terrorist sympathisers will now refuse to meet Theresa May for the most idiotic reason possible. Also I must say somnambulist's post is probably one of the biggest load of nonsense posts I have ever read. To suggest that I am lying on this issue is utterly pathetic and really do wish this was a laughing matter. You need to grow up and admit the truth. Fighting injustice my arse. The man would bring this country down overnight and I really hope and pray that genuine Labour members can get their party back before it is too late. Does the extreme right wing get upset about Corbyn supposedly being anti-semitic because racism is their domain? |
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Post by changeabull on Jan 29, 2019 14:47:25 GMT
Let's not forget Corbyn's comments about Venezuela...
"“an inspiration to all of us fighting back against austerity and neoliberal economics in Europe… showed us there is a different and a better way of doing things – it’s called socialism, it’s called social justice, and it’s something that Venezuela has made a big step towards.”
Going well over there, isn't it?
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Post by FASH on Jan 29, 2019 14:58:33 GMT
The only reason it's not going very well in Venezuela at the moment is because they own vast amounts of oil. Just like in Iraq, Lybia, Iran etc. the Americans are trying to force a regime change to install their own puppet leader of the country.
The current mess has nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with imperialism and control of resources.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 15:02:14 GMT
I'm actually stunned by the ignorance of some of our household lefties. Hang your heads in shame for ignoring what has been one of the most despicable examples of racism in a large party in the modern era. Its funny isn't it though that a man who will happily meet well known terrorist sympathisers will now refuse to meet Theresa May for the most idiotic reason possible. Also I must say somnambulist's post is probably one of the biggest load of nonsense posts I have ever read. To suggest that I am lying on this issue is utterly pathetic and really do wish this was a laughing matter. You need to grow up and admit the truth. Fighting injustice my arse. The man would bring this country down overnight and I really hope and pray that genuine Labour members can get their party back before it is too late. Does the extreme right wing get upset about Corbyn supposedly being anti-semitic because racism is their domain? hahaha you've walked right into that one. You're doing my job for me fair play. |
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Post by somnambulist on Jan 29, 2019 15:27:17 GMT
I'm actually stunned by the ignorance of some of our household lefties. Hang your heads in shame for ignoring what has been one of the most despicable examples of racism in a large party in the modern era. Its funny isn't it though that a man who will happily meet well known terrorist sympathisers will now refuse to meet Theresa May for the most idiotic reason possible. Also I must say somnambulist's post is probably one of the biggest load of nonsense posts I have ever read. To suggest that I am lying on this issue is utterly pathetic and really do wish this was a laughing matter. You need to grow up and admit the truth. Fighting injustice my arse. The man would bring this country down overnight and I really hope and pray that genuine Labour members can get their party back before it is too late. You've got form, Jammo. I was the one who caught you quoting from virulent racist sites and then lying about it. I had hoped you had grown up. Obviously not. |
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Post by colebridgebull on Jan 29, 2019 15:34:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 15:37:46 GMT
I'm actually stunned by the ignorance of some of our household lefties. Hang your heads in shame for ignoring what has been one of the most despicable examples of racism in a large party in the modern era. Its funny isn't it though that a man who will happily meet well known terrorist sympathisers will now refuse to meet Theresa May for the most idiotic reason possible. Also I must say somnambulist's post is probably one of the biggest load of nonsense posts I have ever read. To suggest that I am lying on this issue is utterly pathetic and really do wish this was a laughing matter. You need to grow up and admit the truth. Fighting injustice my arse. The man would bring this country down overnight and I really hope and pray that genuine Labour members can get their party back before it is too late. You've got form, Jammo. I was the one who caught you quoting from virulent racist sites and then lying about it. I had hoped you had grown up. Obviously not. Oh here we go right on form. Lose an argument and pull out the make up a bullsh1t story up about a jammo for is it the 3rd or 4th time now? I do find these stories rather amusing over time though and it only goes to show the depths to what some people will stoop to try and deflect a lost argument away from them. Be warned that if you continue to make up lies about people on here it may one day come around to bite you on the backside. That has nothing to do with this debate whatsoever and you know its a load of rubbish more than anyone. There is a certain irony that you keep telling me to grow up. I would hope that your brain is telling yourself to do the same. |
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Post by Palms Halt on Jan 29, 2019 15:49:43 GMT
Does the extreme right wing get upset about Corbyn supposedly being anti-semitic because racism is their domain? hahaha you've walked right into that one. You're doing my job for me fair play. Explain what I've walked in to. I said he's supposedly anti-semetic. I don't believe for one minute that he is. Standing up for the rights of Palestinians does not make somebody an anti semite. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 16:12:59 GMT
Isn't one of the ironies of Corbyn being leader of the Labour Party that many Tories gleefully paid their £3 to join the party just to vote for him? Or am I misremembering that? Seems expensive. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 16:37:56 GMT
Isn't one of the ironies of Corbyn being leader of the Labour Party that many Tories gleefully paid their £3 to join the party just to vote for him? Or am I misremembering that? Seems expensive. Obviously not taking advantage of the attractive discounted rate available to members of a trade union like what I do. |
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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Jan 29, 2019 17:02:26 GMT
Obviously not taking advantage of the attractive discounted rate available to members of a trade union like what I do.
9% if George was in charge.
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Post by colebridgebull on Jan 29, 2019 18:41:35 GMT
hahaha you've walked right into that one. You're doing my job for me fair play. Explain what I've walked in to. I said he's supposedly anti-semetic. I don't believe for one minute that he is. Standing up for the rights of Palestinians does not make somebody an anti semite. Don't hold your breath. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 19:08:16 GMT
hahaha you've walked right into that one. You're doing my job for me fair play. Explain what I've walked in to. I said he's supposedly anti-semetic. I don't believe for one minute that he is. Standing up for the rights of Palestinians does not make somebody an anti semite. The extremists on both the left and right have many things in common. One of these just so happens to be having a dislike of jewish people. Take a look at what was being chanted at the Occupy Wall street rallies in the US. But take other examples. Exploiting the working class to suit their own agenda and ruling with an iron fist. Take a look at Venezuela as some one said earlier. No one on here likes talking about it and its no wonder when you look at the pictures on tv. I supposed the biased BBC are not reporting fairly in this case though. The fact that 3 million have left the country is probably something of a socialist success story. I suppose they saved on the cost of bullets needed to shoot them all. You asked me what you've walked into. You had no idea all this time and extreme right and extreme left are different versions of the exact same thing. The difference is I will stand up every time and condemn people who are fascists. I wonder how many on here will do the same for those who "claim" to be on the other side. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 19:20:23 GMT
He's a decent bloke, Corbyn.
Was a bit below par in the wake of May's humiliation the other week though I thought.
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Post by Palms Halt on Jan 29, 2019 19:25:54 GMT
Explain what I've walked in to. I said he's supposedly anti-semetic. I don't believe for one minute that he is. Standing up for the rights of Palestinians does not make somebody an anti semite. The extremists on both the left and right have many things in common. One of these just so happens to be having a dislike of jewish people. Take a look at what was being chanted at the Occupy Wall street rallies in the US. But take other examples. Exploiting the working class to suit their own agenda and ruling with an iron fist. Take a look at Venezuela as some one said earlier. No one on here likes talking about it and its no wonder when you look at the pictures on tv. I supposed the biased BBC are not reporting fairly in this case though. The fact that 3 million have left the country is probably something of a socialist success story. I suppose they saved on the cost of bullets needed to shoot them all. You asked me what you've walked into. You had no idea all this time and extreme right and extreme left are different versions of the exact same thing. The difference is I will stand up every time and condemn people who are fascists. I wonder how many on here will do the same for those who "claim" to be on the other side. That waffle didn’t answer my question, but no surprises there. Just idle speculation that people on here only condemn fascists of a specific flavour. I see no evidence of this, or of you standing up every time and condemning people who are fascists. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 19:40:03 GMT
The extremists on both the left and right have many things in common. One of these just so happens to be having a dislike of jewish people. Take a look at what was being chanted at the Occupy Wall street rallies in the US. But take other examples. Exploiting the working class to suit their own agenda and ruling with an iron fist. Take a look at Venezuela as some one said earlier. No one on here likes talking about it and its no wonder when you look at the pictures on tv. I supposed the biased BBC are not reporting fairly in this case though. The fact that 3 million have left the country is probably something of a socialist success story. I suppose they saved on the cost of bullets needed to shoot them all. You asked me what you've walked into. You had no idea all this time and extreme right and extreme left are different versions of the exact same thing. The difference is I will stand up every time and condemn people who are fascists. I wonder how many on here will do the same for those who "claim" to be on the other side. That waffle didn’t answer my question, but no surprises there. Just idle speculation that people on here only condemn fascists of a specific flavour. I see no evidence of this, or of you standing up every time and condemning people who are fascists. Rubbish. I condemn it at every turn and not just because of the anti Semitism. Question is though how many of you lot have condemned what's going on in Venezuela and not given some half soaked explanation of why things went wrong. Would you be prepared to do that? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 19:41:26 GMT
I am more concerned with Vanarama. Wherever that is.
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Post by colebridgebull on Jan 29, 2019 19:50:09 GMT
I remember people getting really upset during the World Cup in South Africa. Really awful noisy pointless things.
A less irritating Rees-Mogg
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Post by Differentiabull on Jan 29, 2019 19:51:39 GMT
Secondly, free movement of people. For a country like Britain to absorb nigh on 4 million people within only 16 years must surely have an impact upon the indigenous population. Think about it! That’s huge and because the vast majority of EU migrants are from very poor countries it’s reasonable to conclude they require much more financial support than those that arrive from wealthier Western nations. Imagine a home crowd at Old Trafford. Now multiply that crowd by a factor of 52 home games and you might just realise the enormity of these numbers and then consider that our woes are not just the fault of the easy to blame Ageing Population who are blamed for everything when shortages of public services are referenced. But where's your evidence for that? All the research into this has demonstrated that migrants bring a net financial benefit to the country, largely because they're of working age, they come in and pay taxes, and then go back to their parent country before retirement and old age. So they don't have demands on the health service, and we don't have to pay them a pension. www.euroweeklynews.com/2019/01/29/brexit-no-deal-up-to-250000-british-expats-could-return-to-britain-government-estimates/#.XFCriUCnw0NThis link suggests Brexit could actually make a lot of (elderly) ex pats come back. And these are people who won't contribute but will need money spent on them. If your argument is that Brexit was a way to protect public services, then you've likely shot yourself in the foot. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 19:56:59 GMT
Secondly, free movement of people. For a country like Britain to absorb nigh on 4 million people within only 16 years must surely have an impact upon the indigenous population. Think about it! That’s huge and because the vast majority of EU migrants are from very poor countries it’s reasonable to conclude they require much more financial support than those that arrive from wealthier Western nations. Imagine a home crowd at Old Trafford. Now multiply that crowd by a factor of 52 home games and you might just realise the enormity of these numbers and then consider that our woes are not just the fault of the easy to blame Ageing Population who are blamed for everything when shortages of public services are referenced. But where's your evidence for that? All the research into this has demonstrated that migrants bring a net financial benefit to the country, largely because they're of working age, they come in and pay taxes, and then go back to their parent country before retirement and old age. So they don't have demands on the health service, and we don't have to pay them a pension. www.euroweeklynews.com/2019/01/29/brexit-no-deal-up-to-250000-british-expats-could-return-to-britain-government-estimates/#.XFCriUCnw0NThis link suggests Brexit could actually make a lot of (elderly) ex pats come back. And these are people who won't contribute but will need money spent on them. If your argument is that Brexit was a way to protect public services, then you've likely shot yourself in the foot. Sorry but this point has been brought up by yourself and others about 20 times now. You don't understand the negative effect mass immigration has on public services, house prices and wages. If you and your best mate had your jobs taken by some one who was willing to do it for half the price you don't think people should be in any way concerned by that? Its also crazy to suggest that immigration will suddenly just stop once we leave. People will still come but it will be on our terms and we will be the ones who decide what type of people are needed to fill jobs that are struggling to be filled. What's more the government will finally be held accountable for something that in the past they have had very little control over. |
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