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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 20:07:30 GMT
Wow, turns out nobody wants the useless deal that TM negotiated. How does she think she’s capable of now going away and getting something better? Step aside and let somebody else run the country Given how utterly cringeworthy the last 10 seconds of Jeremy Corbyn's speech was I think support for him and his party still remains very low. Its amazing that we go from vote to vote to vote to vote to vote on everything but the biggest issue. Let's have a vote of no confidence, lets have a general election, lets have a second referendum and then a best of 5 if remain comes out on top. Jeremy Corbyn is 5 yards in front of goal with the keeper on the half way line and he's missed the ball completely and bounced off the ball on his backside. One of the most useless opposition leaders of all time and I think more people look at him and shake their heads rather than the events that are unfolding at present. Forget Corbyn for a minute. Theresa May is the most useless PM this country has ever had (and that's saying something). Failed miserably in her task and brought before the house a terrible deal that was quite rightly laughed out of parliament. Mistake after mistake. She should've then said hard brexit route - we are leaving 29th March then as planned - no deal. And then negotiate from the fallout. She is a dire political leader. I think we can all agree on that.
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Post by mikeunderpenyard on Jan 15, 2019 20:09:11 GMT
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Post by timmeee on Jan 15, 2019 20:14:15 GMT
Teresa May won’t lose the vote of no confidence tomorrow.
I’ll be intrigued to see whether the EU will concede in any areas or whether it really will be a no deal.
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Post by Gresty on Jan 15, 2019 20:16:48 GMT
I thinkyou missed my point. And/or weren't watching the Secretary of State for Health being skewered by Andrew Neil on the BBC News Channel.
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Post by colebridgebull on Jan 15, 2019 20:16:57 GMT
Given how utterly cringeworthy the last 10 seconds of Jeremy Corbyn's speech was I think support for him and his party still remains very low. Its amazing that we go from vote to vote to vote to vote to vote on everything but the biggest issue. Let's have a vote of no confidence, lets have a general election, lets have a second referendum and then a best of 5 if remain comes out on top. Jeremy Corbyn is 5 yards in front of goal with the keeper on the half way line and he's missed the ball completely and bounced off the ball on his backside. One of the most useless opposition leaders of all time and I think more people look at him and shake their heads rather than the events that are unfolding at present. Forget Corbyn for a minute. Theresa May is the most useless PM this country has ever had (and that's saying something). Failed miserably in her task and brought before the house a terrible deal that was quite rightly laughed out of parliament. Mistake after mistake. She should've then said hard brexit route - we are leaving 29th March then as planned - no deal. And then negotiate from the fallout. She is a dire political leader. I think we can all agree on that. If she had said that, she'd have ensured that she'd lose the no confidence vote tomorrow. There is no Parl support for no Deal. Corbyn knows he'll lose the no confidence vote tomorrow. Why would he want to win it? This whole shitshow is entirely in the ownership of the Tories. They own it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 20:17:43 GMT
Teresa May won’t lose the vote of no confidence tomorrow. I’ll be intrigued to see whether the EU will concede in any areas or whether it really will be a no deal. No, there's no chance of her losing tomorrows vote. She missed a chance if a masterstroke move by not saying..OK no more negotiations with the EU..No Deal it is. It would've then been whoahhhh...hold on...from her party, from Labour and from the EU. And then we might get somewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 20:19:43 GMT
Forget Corbyn for a minute. Theresa May is the most useless PM this country has ever had (and that's saying something). Failed miserably in her task and brought before the house a terrible deal that was quite rightly laughed out of parliament. Mistake after mistake. She should've then said hard brexit route - we are leaving 29th March then as planned - no deal. And then negotiate from the fallout. She is a dire political leader. I think we can all agree on that. If she had said that, she'd have ensured that she'd lose the no confidence vote tomorrow. There is no Parl support for no Deal. Corbyn knows he'll lose the no confidence vote tomorrow. Why would he want to win it? This whole #@&tshow is entirely in the ownership of the Tories. They own it. They do own it. She needs to stick her neck out and if she goes she goes. No deal. The end deal whoever negotiates it will be better for the UK than the one she has spent 2 years getting to.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 20:21:36 GMT
Bare in mind I'd prefer to stay in the EU But would be against a 2nd Referendum
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Post by Monkey Tennis on Jan 15, 2019 20:32:25 GMT
Bare in mind I'd prefer to stay in the EU But would be against a 2nd Referendum We should never have had the first one. The population as a whole isn't bright enough to be trusted on such matters.
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Post by colebridgebull on Jan 15, 2019 20:34:22 GMT
The brave and honourable thing for May to do now would be to withdraw the Art 50 notification.
Sadly she is neither brave or honourable. A pygmy of a PM. Who succeeded a man with a spine of jelly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 20:35:23 GMT
Bare in mind I'd prefer to stay in the EU But would be against a 2nd Referendum We should never have had the first one. The population as a whole isn't bright enough to be trusted on such matters. Evening ww!
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Post by Monkey Tennis on Jan 15, 2019 20:38:14 GMT
We should never have had the first one. The population as a whole isn't bright enough to be trusted on such matters. Evening ww! Ha. Is that not true though? Next time you're out and about, so tomorrow probably, look around you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 20:39:07 GMT
The brave and honourable thing for May to do now would be to withdraw the Art 50 notification. Sadly she is neither brave or honourable. A pygmy of a PM. Who succeeded a man with a spine of jelly. She''s going anyway at some point soonish as leader. She need's to risk a general election by saying we leave 29th March with No Deal. She will survive the "no confidence" vote in the government but will then quickly be removed as Leader BUT the EU will then move the goalposts to avoid the No Deal senario. Which lets face it nobody wants. In short she needs to do something for her country for once and fall on her sword by going ahead NO DEAL
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Post by sillymeadows on Jan 15, 2019 20:42:51 GMT
Hopefully she will win the vote of confidence then her plan B will be rejected she will then say stuff this and we will get the no deal that over half of the electorate want, the braver half that is
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 20:44:53 GMT
Ha. Is that not true though? Next time you're out and about, so tomorrow probably, look around you. I've given up judging on appearances. I think people voted for big change because they were sick to death of people in London and the South East coining the cash in whilst the rest of the country got poorer each year. Protest vote.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 20:45:20 GMT
Ha. Is that not true though? Next time you're out and about, so tomorrow probably, look around you. It is quite cold, can I just look at my own family?
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Post by Monkey Tennis on Jan 15, 2019 21:00:37 GMT
Ha. Is that not true though? Next time you're out and about, so tomorrow probably, look around you. I've given up judging on appearances. I think people voted for big change because they were sick to death of people in London and the South East coining the cash in whilst the rest of the country got poorer each year. Protest vote. You may well be right. Though you may equally be completely wrong. Given that you are right makes the whole thing even more miserable.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 21:14:18 GMT
If I look around tomorrow, I will see mostly Eastern Europeans as that is what 65% of my work colleagues are. They certainly aren’t daft.
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Post by youngsalmon on Jan 15, 2019 21:19:22 GMT
Ha. Is that not true though? Next time you're out and about, so tomorrow probably, look around you. I've given up judging on appearances. I think people voted for big change because they were sick to death of people in London and the South East coining the cash in whilst the rest of the country got poorer each year. Protest vote. Except places that were pro-Brexit like Sunderland haven't had money invested in them nor will Brexit change that. A bit like Trump's the car industry is safe in my hands. Workers in the US car industry are losing their jobs hand over fist.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 21:26:11 GMT
Bare in mind I'd prefer to stay in the EU But would be against a 2nd Referendum We should never have had the first one. The population as a whole isn't bright enough to be trusted on such matters. So some one stupid is calling everyone else stupid. Is there really anything more stupid than that?
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