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Post by MAXBULL on May 20, 2017 7:05:26 GMT
Excitatroll will be back with a new look before long. It needs to have the last Say. What a plank.  |
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Post by changeabull on May 20, 2017 8:15:39 GMT
All this hullabaloo over an event that none of us has any control over, not a cat in hells chance of persuading any other poster of 'turning', and of which most posters have resorted to calling each other, and various politicians, names. Don't you just love Election Time? Having said that, (and from a purely personal point of view)as an ex squaddie who lost colleagues in Belfast, I am never going to vote for a party that has an IRA sympathiser as a leader. Even if it was a long time ago. Not that long ago. www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/exclusive-mi5-opened-file-on-jeremy-corbyn-amid-concerns-over-his-ira-links |
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Post by colebridgebull on May 20, 2017 8:26:32 GMT
It's a valid criticism and point to make. As is the fact that the Irish peace process was ultimately successful due to the various factions negotiating and respecting each other's views rather than engaging in armed conflict. Very easy to call anyone who engaged with Sinn Fein a sympathasiser. Particularly when you're seeking to make emotional political capital. This is what Corbyn said about it. I appreciate it doesn't fit with the current narrative, but it's probably a rather more reliable source. www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/jeremy-corbyn-defends-stance-on-ira-31561663.htmlAnd here (will no doubt be suggested that this is a "loony left" website, but in balance to Alvin's original link. www.collectivevoice.uk/2017/03/19/corbyn-terrorism-by-emma-campbell/Not sure that Corbyn sold arms to the IRA. How many deaths in the Middle East have occurred as a result of far more recent U.K. Arms sales to the highest bidder? |
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Post by singe on May 20, 2017 10:14:05 GMT
The topic of Ireland is a very emotive one. The poster mindless thug raises the important point that we should remember those who have died in the forces in Ireland and, of course, he's absolutely right. However, Corbyn was not the only one who tried to bring dialogue to the problem and he has explained his actions and his comments deserved to be listened to. Of course the killing of troops in Ireland was wrong during the Irish troubles but so was the killing of innocent people during Bloody Sunday in the early 70s and the many other atrocities that were carried out during that time. As Colebridge says, perhaps it doesn't fit the narrative, but at least he has the guts to stand up for what he believes. We are never quite sure what May stands up for as she refuses to be a part of a debate coming up to the election and who knows where she stands on Brexit.
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Post by colebridgebull on May 20, 2017 10:38:00 GMT
The sign of a leader is that he or she stands up for their beliefs, however unpopular those may be.
I was no fan of Thatcher, but she certainly had those qualities.
May vaccilates, speaks in sound bites and is completely driven by the narrative of certain parts of the Press/ strangely those parts who benefit most from her policies.
Corbyn is his own man. Which is why the same press hate him and will throw any old excrement at him.
I'm pretty sure I know who's the better leader.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 12:15:03 GMT
The better of two pretty poor leaders to be fair. Both are utterly joyless.
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Post by Barney still in B-Block on May 20, 2017 12:35:49 GMT
The better of two pretty poor leaders to be fair. Both are utterly joyless. Theresa May is joyless epitomised, a sheep-like, plastic politician with at least two faces. Corbyn is growing on me, I just hope that it's not simply because the alternative is so depressing. |
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Post by FASH on May 20, 2017 12:48:05 GMT
I don't care who the leader is. The Labour policies need to be implemented. Or the Tory elitist policies need to be stopped, at least.
I half expect TM to come out with something like "£X billion in benefits to be saved by slaughtering the first born of the unemployed".
Anyone who doesn't comply will be lynched by vigilante groups of rabid Daily Mail readers.
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Post by forestbull89 on May 20, 2017 13:10:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 13:21:48 GMT
Theresa May has dead eyes.
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Post by Incognito on May 20, 2017 14:56:10 GMT
It's page 99...and it's very interesting. My concern would be FIFA's rules on government interference in football administration? |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 15:38:19 GMT
Theresa May has dead eyes.  "Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen." |
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Post by castlebull on May 20, 2017 20:38:20 GMT
It's funny cos it's true #bants  EDIT: PS something that caused tOS |
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Post by changeabull on May 20, 2017 20:59:39 GMT
It's funny cos it's true #bants EDIT: PS something that caused tOSWho's the bloke supposed to be on that poster? |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 21:01:56 GMT
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Post by singe on May 20, 2017 21:12:22 GMT
What similarities do you see between this and Margaret Thatcher's friendship with General Pinochet in the '80s? |
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Post by castlebull on May 20, 2017 21:29:55 GMT
It's funny cos it's true #bants EDIT: PS something that caused tOSWho's the bloke supposed to be on that poster? Nige. |
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Post by singe on May 20, 2017 22:39:40 GMT
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Post by colebridgebull on May 20, 2017 23:06:25 GMT
Ah. Ruth Dudley-Edwards. A self professed revisionist historian. Irelands answer to Katie Hopkins. Under 10 points now. Getting a bit squeaky now, those well lubricated Tory bum flaps... |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2017 8:47:21 GMT
More grist to the mill that with Corbyn what you see is what you get. This makes him a more accessible kind of politician. See Trump, Farage, Le Pen.
Theresa May, a Remainer, is seeking a mandate to lead the United Kingdom out of Europe. What on earth's that all about?
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