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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 13:47:50 GMT
The Labour leadership can scarcely run its own party, how on earth do they propose to take over and run vast swathes of the economy. To say it is all fully costed is also laughable. They've pretty much come out and said we're going to spend more on everything and somehow we'll find the money. People on here have cried about how our debt is going up well Labour are going to be borrowing more, far more. How does that bring down the deficit let alone the debt. Raising taxes for anyone earning over £80k. New 50p tax rate for anyone earning £123k Reversal of tories corporation tax reduction (raising to 26%) Ending corporation tax relief. In a nutshell. You may not agree with this approach, but the proposal is out there, with associated projected income, for anyone with a basic grasp of how Google works. Did the Daily Mail report something different? Astonishing. |
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Post by Incognito on May 16, 2017 13:48:43 GMT
Amazing amount of knowledge based simply on knowing exactly what happened rather than being based on scandalmongering  An amazing account which fails to mention: 1. The loutish and borish conduct of the 'players' at Pizzahut. 2. The abuse some of them gave to staff. 3. Food had been consumed and then refusals made to pay for it, which was quite rightly interpreted by staff as stealing, hence the reason that the Police were called. 4. The only reason that arrests were not made is that eventually the food was paid for, negating and further cause for Police involvement. 5. The 'players' have also caused problems with their anti-social conduct at the Blind College and the leisure centre. And you referred to them as 'a good bunch of lads' on Bulls Banter. As for your stating that Agombar and Lonsdale's biggest failure was their failure with communication, believing their own hype, that is truly laughable. Surely their biggest failure(s) was a thorough lack of integrity and decency and a combination of their dishonesty of character and intent.
Just as well they weren't outside Play on a Saturday night then?
Look, if you want to continue this then I suggest a separate thread rather than on this General Election one.
How about "They're only here for the leases"?
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Post by Peroni on May 16, 2017 14:00:18 GMT
An amazing account which fails to mention: 1. The loutish and borish conduct of the 'players' at Pizzahut. 2. The abuse some of them gave to staff. 3. Food had been consumed and then refusals made to pay for it, which was quite rightly interpreted by staff as stealing, hence the reason that the Police were called. 4. The only reason that arrests were not made is that eventually the food was paid for, negating and further cause for Police involvement. 5. The 'players' have also caused problems with their anti-social conduct at the Blind College and the leisure centre. And you referred to them as 'a good bunch of lads' on Bulls Banter. As for your stating that Agombar and Lonsdale's biggest failure was their failure with communication, believing their own hype, that is truly laughable. Surely their biggest failure(s) was a thorough lack of integrity and decency and a combination of their dishonesty of character and intent.
Just as well they weren't outside Play on a Saturday night then?
Look, if you want to continue this then I suggest a separate thread rather than on this General Election one.
How about "They're only here for the pizzas watches leases football half a season"?
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Post by FASH on May 16, 2017 14:29:09 GMT
The Labour leadership can scarcely run its own party, how on earth do they propose to take over and run vast swathes of the economy. To say it is all fully costed is also laughable. They've pretty much come out and said we're going to spend more on everything and somehow we'll find the money. People on here have cried about how our debt is going up well Labour are going to be borrowing more, far more. How does that bring down the deficit let alone the debt. Raising taxes for anyone earning over £80k. New 50p tax rate for anyone earning £123k Reversal of tories corporation tax reduction (raising to 26%) Ending corporation tax relief. In a nutshell. You may not agree with this approach, but the proposal is out there, with associated projected income, for anyone with a basic grasp of how Google works. Did the Daily Mail report something different? Astonishing. I suspect they'll save a fair few quid from cancelling the thousands of drone strikes in the middle east that the Tories have planned for the future. |
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Post by FASH on May 16, 2017 14:31:14 GMT
An amazing account which fails to mention: 1. The loutish and borish conduct of the 'players' at Pizzahut. 2. The abuse some of them gave to staff. 3. Food had been consumed and then refusals made to pay for it, which was quite rightly interpreted by staff as stealing, hence the reason that the Police were called. 4. The only reason that arrests were not made is that eventually the food was paid for, negating and further cause for Police involvement. 5. The 'players' have also caused problems with their anti-social conduct at the Blind College and the leisure centre. And you referred to them as 'a good bunch of lads' on Bulls Banter. As for your stating that Agombar and Lonsdale's biggest failure was their failure with communication, believing their own hype, that is truly laughable. Surely their biggest failure(s) was a thorough lack of integrity and decency and a combination of their dishonesty of character and intent.
Just as well they weren't outside Play on a Saturday night then?
Look, if you want to continue this then I suggest a separate thread rather than on this General Election one.
How about "They're only here for the leases"?
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Post by excitable on May 16, 2017 14:36:11 GMT
The Labour leadership can scarcely run its own party, how on earth do they propose to take over and run vast swathes of the economy. To say it is all fully costed is also laughable. They've pretty much come out and said we're going to spend more on everything and somehow we'll find the money. People on here have cried about how our debt is going up well Labour are going to be borrowing more, far more. How does that bring down the deficit let alone the debt. Raising taxes for anyone earning over £80k. New 50p tax rate for anyone earning £123k Reversal of tories corporation tax reduction (raising to 26%) Ending corporation tax relief. In a nutshell. You may not agree with this approach, but the proposal is out there, with associated projected income, for anyone with a basic grasp of how Google works. Did the Daily Mail report something different? Astonishing. No costings for all the re -nationalisation except to say that all revenue not raised by taxation will be borrowed. Here we go again spend, tax and borrow. Unsafe and unsteady. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 14:37:33 GMT
The Labour leadership can scarcely run its own party, how on earth do they propose to take over and run vast swathes of the economy. To say it is all fully costed is also laughable. They've pretty much come out and said we're going to spend more on everything and somehow we'll find the money. People on here have cried about how our debt is going up well Labour are going to be borrowing more, far more. How does that bring down the deficit let alone the debt. Raising taxes for anyone earning over £80k. New 50p tax rate for anyone earning £123k Reversal of tories corporation tax reduction (raising to 26%) Ending corporation tax relief. In a nutshell. You may not agree with this approach, but the proposal is out there, with associated projected income, for anyone with a basic grasp of how Google works. Did the Daily Mail report something different? Astonishing. Its a pity that you used to post a bit of sense once upon a time Johnny. Now you just come out with the same old Dail Mail bashing despite how biased your own papers are. I think what you cant comprehend though is how higher taxes could possibly fail in bringing in vast quantities of extra revenue. The main reason is that if Jeremy Corbyn is elected, a good many businesses with start to jump ship without a shadow of a doubt. The £10 minimum wage alone is enough to make people feel very worried about the future of their own businesses both large and small. People will inevitably lose jobs over it and business growth and income could suffer because they have a choice between downsizing staff sizes or raising prices. If it comes to that I cant really say which is the best option to take, but its going to end badly either way. Then we have these so called well off people earning 80k a year. No doubt some people will continue in their jobs despite some even high earners having to pay more than half of what they earn. But do you really think that foreign workers in particular or even British ones who could easily get jobs around the world would shrug their shoulders and cough up a load of extra money? We know what the celebrities all did in the 70's. They packed their bags and got out of this country as quickly as they could. Even Dianne Abbot could tell you that taxing nothing at 50% brings in £0. But these are the people who this country simply cannot afford to lose. If you actually create an atmosphere that on the face of it appears to be anti business then the whole thing could collapse almost instantly. Its not a costed manifesto because its built on massive assumptions and ignores all forms of risks that it appears to be taking. Even a Labour donor came out with this today. "if businesses are hit too hard, and the economy doesn't grow, then funding all these promises is going to be a lot more difficult", and "a balance has to be struck." The thing that really scares me is that its been done as a last throw of the dice to get into power. Its like we're so far behind in the polls let's just throw everything out there and hope for the best. To say even 50% of it is possible is being over optimistic. You'd have to be seriously deluded to believe that its a manifesto of sense and credibility. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 14:51:07 GMT
This thread continues to dignify the electorate with a knowledge of current affairs.
The nation is almost entirely disengaged from politics.
A load of old people voted Out last year because they hate foreigners.
Anything more complicated than that - In or Out which they still managed to get wrong - and they're fecked.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 15:06:30 GMT
Paul Johnson from the IFS: "They're looking at raising an awful lot of money from companies and from higher earners, and the long-run impact of the changes they are suggesting almost certainly wouldn't raise the full £50bn. It seems to us is that if they were able to raise that amount that would take tax burden in the UK to its highest level in 70 years."
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 15:14:03 GMT
Jeremy Corbyn, by the way, will gain a lot more votes than any current poll is showing.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 15:16:20 GMT
This thread continues to dignify the electorate with a knowledge of current affairs. The nation is almost entirely disengaged from politics.A load of old people voted Out last year because they hate foreigners. Anything more complicated than that - In or Out which they still managed to get wrong - and they're fecked. Anyone listening to the people being interviewed in a pub in, I believe, Brentford this morning on the "Today" programme would find it impossible to disagree with this sentence. However, "dignifying the electorate with a knowledge of current affairs" is, I would contend, stretching credulity just a little! |
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Post by Incognito on May 16, 2017 15:23:59 GMT
This thread continues to dignify the electorate with a knowledge of current affairs. The nation is almost entirely disengaged from politics. A load of old people voted Out last year because they hate foreigners.Anything more complicated than that - In or Out which they still managed to get wrong - and they're fecked. Nah, I'm quite fond of mine |
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Post by FASH on May 16, 2017 15:50:23 GMT
Paul Johnson from the IFS: "They're looking at raising an awful lot of money from companies and from higher earners, and the long-run impact of the changes they are suggesting almost certainly wouldn't raise the full £50bn. It seems to us is that if they were able to raise that amount that would take tax burden in the UK to its highest level in 70 years." So he's right about that and wrong about Brexit, then? The tax burden would only be higher because the massive corporations would be coughing up what is rightly due, for once. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 16:18:54 GMT
Its a pity that you used to post a bit of sense once upon a time Johnny.
So he's starting off one-nil up and you only have a rush goalie.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 16:26:37 GMT
Labour have also announced they are going to add 2 hours to each day when you are on holiday, but admit they are not sure where the extra hours will come from, but most probably they will be taken off the rich'.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 17:08:26 GMT
Labour have also announced they are going to add 2 hours to each day when you are on holiday, but admit they are not sure where the extra hours will come from, but most probably they will be taken off the rich'. Good. Many of them have enjoyed 26 hour days for far too long. Whilst sitting on their arses. |
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Post by colebridgebull on May 16, 2017 19:17:51 GMT
Just seen a little stat.
Under Labour, if you earn £100,000 pa you will pay £1000 pa extra tax.
Meanwhile, if your children undertake a 3 year University Course they will not have a debt in the region of £80,000 when they come out.
Seems a fair deal to me. I did a four year University Course, came out debt free and as a result of my degree am a higher rate tax payer. All three of my children are or have been at University and have massive debt (albeit at a very favourable rate at the moment. What odds on the Tories selling off the loans to private companies with a more aggressive collection policy post election)
Jammo saying the figures don't add up. The manifesto is costed-perhaps he would care to point out the fundamental flaws to save us all the time of number crunching)
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 19:24:34 GMT
Raising taxes for anyone earning over £80k. New 50p tax rate for anyone earning £123k Reversal of tories corporation tax reduction (raising to 26%) Ending corporation tax relief. In a nutshell. You may not agree with this approach, but the proposal is out there, with associated projected income, for anyone with a basic grasp of how Google works. Did the Daily Mail report something different? Astonishing. No costings for all the re -nationalisation except to say that all revenue not raised by taxation will be borrowed. Here we go again spend, tax and borrow. Unsafe and unsteady. I'm trying to wean myself off responding to any of your accounts as there is no way of doing so without it being construed as a CHOMP... ... however, nationalisation takes out the part of the process where the state pays for all the expensive infrastructure side of the service and some fat Farage creams off all the proceeds from the profitable side of the service. This removes the wasted income and allows it to be reinvested into the service. So, in effect, the service pays for itself. Note how many times I used the word service in that little explanation. That's what it is supposed to be. A public service. Not a profit making enterprise. |
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Post by Monkey Tennis on May 16, 2017 19:42:01 GMT
Just seen a little stat. Under Labour, if you earn £100,000 pa you will pay £1000 pa extra tax. Meanwhile, if your children undertake a 3 year University Course they will not have a debt in the region of £80,000 when they come out. Seems a fair deal to me. I did a four year University Course, came out debt free and as a result of my degree am a higher rate tax payer. All three of my children are or have been at University and have massive debt (albeit at a very favourable rate at the moment. What odds on the Tories selling off the loans to private companies with a more aggressive collection policy post election) Jammo saying the figures don't add up. The manifesto is costed-perhaps he would care to point out the fundamental flaws to save us all the time of number crunching) Chuck us a tenner, then. I've got mouths to feed.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 20:28:14 GMT
Just seen a little stat. Under Labour, if you earn £100,000 pa you will pay £1000 pa extra tax. Meanwhile, if your children undertake a 3 year University Course they will not have a debt in the region of £80,000 when they come out. Seems a fair deal to me. I did a four year University Course, came out debt free and as a result of my degree am a higher rate tax payer. All three of my children are or have been at University and have massive debt (albeit at a very favourable rate at the moment. What odds on the Tories selling off the loans to private companies with a more aggressive collection policy post election) Jammo saying the figures don't add up. The manifesto is costed-perhaps he would care to point out the fundamental flaws to save us all the time of number crunching) Well I mean let's just pick one out of the hat shall we. Water nationalisation. How much will that cost and how will it be paid for? |
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