deadsetlegend
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Post by deadsetlegend on May 12, 2017 21:34:48 GMT
What I mean is that in the last 2 weeks there have been plenty of policy initiatives from labour yet virtually nothing from the Tories. Oh apart from we will get immigration down....of course they will. Not forgetting nicking millibands energy cap policy from 2015 which back then was Marxist gobbledegook yet 2 years later is a great idea. The inference I take from this is that the Tories don't have anything new to say or offer the country. I just told you that the manifesto has not been released. The policies are in there I can assure you. Hardly like they're leaving it till the last minute. And there was me thinking she was just winging it and hoping that labour really f**k up. I assume she has got bojo and gove helping her write the manifesto because we all know that when they give their word, their word is good. |
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Post by diogenes on May 14, 2017 22:43:11 GMT
Oh dear. You really are misinformed aren't you. You saw what was happening and did what? Challenge Keyte about his ineptness, and his mistakes that you said he called his decisions? Challenge Agombar or Lonsdale about their collective criminal past and real intentions intentions for HUFC/Edgar Street? Or did you go public about the dishonesty, corruption and deceptions you were there to see? No. That would have required some integrity. But you did scurry to PizzaHut on Lonsdale's orders to pay for stolen food by 'players.'
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 22:57:37 GMT
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Post by Incognito on May 15, 2017 10:02:38 GMT
Oh dear. You really are misinformed aren't you. You saw what was happening and did what? Challenge Keyte about his ineptness, and his mistakes that you said he called his decisions? Challenge Agombar or Lonsdale about their collective criminal past and real intentions intentions for HUFC/Edgar Street? Or did you go public about the dishonesty, corruption and deceptions you were there to see? No. That would have required some integrity. But you did scurry to PizzaHut on Lonsdale's orders to pay for stolen food by 'players.'
Please explain where and how I am misinformed. You really want to be corrected on all that again? Yes, I did challenge DK on the loss-making budgets. His response was that he was pretty much damned if he spent and damned if he didn't. You see, on the back of the failure in League 1, the gates had fallen from 3400 to a little over 2000 (that's 40% down). They continued to fall after a further relegation to The Conference. Who knows what the gates might have fallen too with another relegation? So, whilst it's easy to criticise the spending (and I did) it's also fairly easy to understand why there was a feeling that further relegations weren't going to help the income through the gates. Hindsight is a wonderful gift. Regarding Agomdale and Lonsdale, I think their biggest failure was with communication believing their own hype...."we are cockney boys, we don't need any country bumpkins telling us how to run HUFC". Agombar did throw a fair bit of dosh at HUFC but, like previous incumbents, pulled the plug as soon as he realised that the fans were not going to support. TBF, he spotted it a lot quicker than DK. By the time Lonsdale took over, HUFC was fooked beyond repair due to the boycott and the "anti" campaign that was being orchestrated by the new hierarchy. Now then... scurry to PizzaHut on Lonsdale's orders to pay for stolen food by 'playersThat is the biggest load of ballcocks of all. 1. Lonsdale was not there that day. 2. I did not go to Pizzahut...one of the players came back to The Club looking for money to pay 3. Nothing was stolen...the money they expected hadn't arrived. What actually happened was pretty straightforward. Manager (John) gave the captain (Brad Gascoinge) cash to pay for the players to have Pizza. Some of the players set off to Pizzahut and ordered food. Brad and a number of others set off about ten minutes later but went to a different Pizza shop. When the players at Pizzahut realised that there was a problem, one of them ran back to The Club. I had arrived at The Club to pick my wife up from work and simply lent him the money to pay and was reimbursed the following morning. I realise that hearing the truth might urinate over your attempt to MISINFORM people but there you have it. Not sure it's a particularly good idea to accuse someone of stealing when nothing was stolen.  |
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Post by Peroni on May 15, 2017 10:20:33 GMT
This was your reply to my post below:You saw what was happening and did what? Challenge Keyte about his ineptness, and his mistakes that you said he called his decisions? Challenge Agombar or Lonsdale about their collective criminal past and real intentions intentions for HUFC/Edgar Street? Or did you go public about the dishonesty, corruption and deceptions you were there to see? No. That would have required some integrity. But you did scurry to PizzaHut on Lonsdale's orders to pay for stolen food by 'players.'
Please explain where and how I am misinformed. You really want to be corrected on all that again? Yes, I did challenge DK on the loss-making budgets. His response was that he was pretty much damned if he spent and damned if he didn't. You see, on the back of the failure in League 1, the gates had fallen from 3400 to a little over 2000 (that's 40% down). They continued to fall after a further relegation to The Conference. Who knows what the gates might have fallen too with another relegation? So, whilst it's easy to criticise the spending (and I did) it's also fairly easy to understand why there was a feeling that further relegations weren't going to help the income through the gates. Hindsight is a wonderful gift. Regarding Agomdale and Lonsdale, I think their biggest failure was with communication believing their own hype...."we are cockney boys, we don't need any country bumpkins telling us how to run HUFC". Agombar did throw a fair bit of dosh at HUFC but, like previous incumbents, pulled the plug as soon as he realised that the fans were not going to support. TBF, he spotted it a lot quicker than DK. By the time Lonsdale took over, HUFC was fooked beyond repair due to the boycot and thew "anti" campaign that was being orchestrated by the new hierarchy. Now then... scurry to PizzaHut on Lonsdale's orders to pay for stolen food by 'playersThat is the biggest load of ballcocks of all. 1. Lonsdale was not there that day. 2. I did not go to Pizzahut...one of the players came back to The Club looking for money to pay 3. Nothing was stolen...the money they expected hadn't arrived. What actually happened was pretty straightforward. Manager (John) gave the captain (Brad Gascoinge) cash to pay for the players to have Pizza. Some of the players set off to Pizzahut and ordered food. Brad and a number of others set off about ten minutes later but went to a different Pizza shop. When the players at Pizzahut realised that there was a problem, one of them ran back to The Club. I had arrived at The Club to pick my wife up from work and simply lent him the money to pay and was reimbursed the following morning. I realise that hearing the truth might urinate over your attempt to MISINFORM people but there you have it. Not sure it's a particularly good idea to accuse someone of stealing when nothing was stolen. amazing amount of knowledge there hard to give agombar credit (feel sorry for his massive financial loss) for spotting it, twas pretty hard to miss, given what a farce they brought to the club you love so much at least nothing was stolen form the club on exit by these law abiding souls
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Post by Incognito on May 15, 2017 10:30:17 GMT
Amazing amount of knowledge based simply on knowing exactly what happened rather than being based on scandalmongering |
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Post by diogenes on May 15, 2017 21:19:02 GMT
Amazing amount of knowledge based simply on knowing exactly what happened rather than being based on scandalmongering An amazing account which fails to mention: 1. The loutish and borish conduct of the 'players' at Pizzahut. 2. The abuse some of them gave to staff. 3. Food had been consumed and then refusals made to pay for it, which was quite rightly interpreted by staff as stealing, hence the reason that the Police were called. 4. The only reason that arrests were not made is that eventually the food was paid for, negating and further cause for Police involvement. 5. The 'players' have also caused problems with their anti-social conduct at the Blind College and the leisure centre. And you referred to them as 'a good bunch of lads' on Bulls Banter. As for your stating that Agombar and Lonsdale's biggest failure was their failure with communication, believing their own hype, that is truly laughable. Surely their biggest failure(s) was a thorough lack of integrity and decency and a combination of their dishonesty of character and intent. |
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Post by Incognito on May 15, 2017 21:25:23 GMT
So why did The Club receive an apology from Pizzahut Head Office for the behaviour of their staff?
Don't bother replying, your argument is already discredited.
Why is this on an Election thread in the first place?
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Post by diogenes on May 15, 2017 21:33:56 GMT
So why did The Club receive an apology from Pizzahut Head Office for the behaviour of their staff? Don't bother replying, your argument is already discredited. Why is this on an Election thread in the first place? If that apology exists, then lets see it. Discredited? You'd know more about that than most, given the company you've been so keen to be associated with in the past. Keep your blinkers on. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 5:21:40 GMT
So why did The Club receive an apology from Pizzahut Head Office for the behaviour of their staff?
Don't bother replying, your argument is already discredited. Why is this on an Election thread in the first place? Was it beacuse the Pizza Hut staff refused to allow them to eat sat on the floor in line with the clubs new found faith? |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 7:28:39 GMT
Why, if he his such a good businessman, did MB put so much money into Hereford United.
(Just asking in case he stands for the Poker Party in future elections).
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Post by Peroni on May 16, 2017 8:42:04 GMT
Why, if he his such a good businessman, did MB put so much money into Hereford United. (Just asking in case he stands for the Poker Party in future elections). Dunno Why do you keep banging on about thinhgs on ere ?
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 8:48:20 GMT
Why, if he his such a good businessman, did MB put so much money into Hereford United. (Just asking in case he stands for the Poker Party in future elections). I'll bite. Maybe because the money wasn't an investment on which a profit was either anticipated (common sense, one would imagine) or expected. If one were to have an abundance of disposable income, such largesse to assist an organisation close to one's heart is laudable. Wouldn't you say? And it is clear that he was/is not the only such individual in this particular regard. PS. "is", not "his" and you omitted a question mark at the end of your question. Attention to detail went out of the window on this one it seems. You're welcome. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 9:11:48 GMT
Exactly.
I rest my case.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 9:17:17 GMT
I imagine there always comes a time when one thinks "Enough is enough. Up with this I will not / am not prepared to put any longer".
There's a clear and obvious difference between helping to sustain a viable organisation and continuing to throw significant sums of money into a lost cause, effectively a bottomless pit.
I rest my case also.
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Post by Peroni on May 16, 2017 10:40:30 GMT
And me
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 11:10:47 GMT
I imagine there always comes a time when one thinks "Enough is enough. Up with this I will not / am not prepared to put any longer". There's a clear and obvious difference between helping to sustain a viable organisation and continuing to throw significant sums of money into a lost cause, effectively a bottomless pit. I rest my case also. The demise of Hereford United was caused by the clashing of personalities. It had nothing whatsoever to do with business.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 11:29:45 GMT
I imagine there always comes a time when one thinks "Enough is enough. Up with this I will not / am not prepared to put any longer". There's a clear and obvious difference between helping to sustain a viable organisation and continuing to throw significant sums of money into a lost cause, effectively a bottomless pit. I rest my case also. The demise of Hereford United was caused by the clashing of personalities. It had nothing whatsoever to do with business.
I have no doubt that your premise has some validity. Whether or not the scenario you describe had anything to do with business, money (or more accurately, the lack of it, coupled with the unwise use of what funds were available) clearly was a major factor. Truth is, we're not really disagreeing here, are we? We just seem to be placing a different emphasis on the "whys and wherefores". |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 13:03:36 GMT
The Labour leadership can scarcely run its own party, how on earth do they propose to take over and run vast swathes of the economy. To say it is all fully costed is also laughable. They've pretty much come out and said we're going to spend more on everything and somehow we'll find the money. People on here have cried about how our debt is going up well Labour are going to be borrowing more, far more. How does that bring down the deficit let alone the debt.
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Post by Incognito on May 16, 2017 13:42:42 GMT
The Labour leadership can scarcely run its own party, how on earth do they propose to take over and run vast swathes of the economy. To say it is all fully costed is also laughable. They've pretty much come out and said we're going to spend more on everything and somehow we'll find the money. People on here have cried about how our debt is going up well Labour are going to be borrowing more, far more. How does that bring down the deficit let alone the debt.
Well, it wasn't them that promised to lead the country through Brexit if the country voted to leave and then promptly resign and walk away.
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