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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 13:06:59 GMT
He was last time there was an update, although he might have handed it over to Munsley by now. Edit - oh I see, perhaps he's just HFC secretary. That makes it all OK then. That's my thinking. He's HUST Vice Chsirman If anything that makes it even more ridiculous. |
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Post by somnambulist on Sept 11, 2015 13:07:27 GMT
Is Martin Secretary of HUST? No idea, but he's certainly a HUST Board member. Likewise, other Board members like Chris Williams are also forbidden from nominating candidates according to the SD directive.
Hence, there are no candidates?
What, first Munsley disappeared, then Bulls Banter, and now the candidates? |
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Post by tommytainant on Sept 11, 2015 13:08:06 GMT
I have had concerns regarding the election and the AGM for some time. I have written to the Chair of the EMG with these concerns. This was done before reading this thread and there are issues being raised that cause further concern. Just summarising the points being made. # There is absolutely no requirement for an interview....... correct. The person involved had an informal chat.# Were all candidates subject to this and why?.... No, unless they too asked for a chat# It is astonishing that a candidate that, allegedly, stated that he would hold the board to account and then find himself (herself) not on the list...... HUST do not choose who is on the list. It is the EMG.
# It is even more astonishing that the Secretary, who would be party to this decision, has personally nominated most of the accepted candidates.... see above # Further to this there arent any candidates who have not got the endorsement of the Trust board and by extension HFC. What price independence..... no other candidates, if there were any others, were deemed suitable by the EMGThis must be the worst election ever held by the worst trust in the UK...... Seems to be not the case from the answers I have givenI have never met any of the principals involved but my suspicion is that representatives of North Korea will be attending next thursday night and will be making copious notes on what passes for process in Hereford. The above answers are my take on the matter only. You need to read some of the HUST policies . 5.5. Decisions over the validity of nominations shall be a matter for the EMG having due regard for the Secretary’s assessment of the membership statusof an individual nominating a candidate. Any decision by the EMG not to accept a nomination as valid should be notified to the candidate as soon as possible in order that the situation may be rectified or an appeal heard. The Secretary is a key part of the process and the EMG chair would rely on information given by him. Hope this clarifies it for you. |
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Post by HamptonParkBull on Sept 11, 2015 13:11:35 GMT
The above answers are my take on the matter only. You need to read some of the HUST policies . 5.5. Decisions over the validity of nominations shall be a matter for the EMG having due regard for the Secretary’s assessment of the membership statusof an individual nominating a candidate. Any decision by the EMG not to accept a nomination as valid should be notified to the candidate as soon as possible in order that the situation may be rectified or an appeal heard. The Secretary is a key part of the process and the EMG chair would rely on information given by him. Hope this clarifies it for you. Who is the "secretary" |
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Post by tommytainant on Sept 11, 2015 13:14:07 GMT
Mr Watson is the acting secretary.
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Post by tommytainant on Sept 11, 2015 13:15:31 GMT
You need to read some of the HUST policies . 5.5. Decisions over the validity of nominations shall be a matter for the EMG having due regard for the Secretary’s assessment of the membership statusof an individual nominating a candidate. Any decision by the EMG not to accept a nomination as valid should be notified to the candidate as soon as possible in order that the situation may be rectified or an appeal heard. The Secretary is a key part of the process and the EMG chair would rely on information given by him. Hope this clarifies it for you. I would assume the EMG would follow the correct procedure. Are you saying they haven't? Why dont you ask them ? rogermgroves@btinternet.com |
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Post by HamptonParkBull on Sept 11, 2015 13:15:48 GMT
Mr Watson is the acting secretary. Is that of HFC or HUST |
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Post by BullRush on Sept 11, 2015 13:20:58 GMT
Mr Watson is the acting secretary. Is that of HFC or HUST Both I think. |
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Post by jc on Sept 11, 2015 13:23:58 GMT
Martin Watson is the Acting Secretary of HUST as per an Email from Andy Carr three days ago.
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Post by jc on Sept 11, 2015 13:26:45 GMT
Guys and ladies, please stop arguing with Grayham, it's boring and tiresome. If you said the sky was blue and the grass green he would argue the toss with you.
His sole purpose is to raise your blood pressure and argue. Don't allow him the forum space to continue.
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Post by Incognito on Sept 11, 2015 13:27:41 GMT
No idea, but he's certainly a HUST Board member. Likewise, other Board members like Chris Williams are also forbidden from nominating candidates according to the SD directive.
Hence, there are no candidates?
if that was the case, the EMG would have rejected them Not nessy celery. It depend on the make-up of the EMG. If Martin, as Secretary (or acting) is part of the EMG then he can't nominate a candidate. Clearly, he has and as such those nominations can't be valid? |
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Post by Incognito on Sept 11, 2015 13:32:08 GMT
Should the members be made aware of who sits on their EMG?
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Post by oldmeadowender on Sept 11, 2015 13:35:27 GMT
Why don;t you just tell us? Why should it be a secret?
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Post by singe on Sept 11, 2015 13:39:37 GMT
Guys and ladies, please stop arguing with Grayham, it's boring and tiresome. If you said the sky was blue and the grass green he would argue the toss with you. His sole purpose is to raise your blood pressure and argue. Don't allow him the forum space to continue. All I'm doing is answering the questions. Something you aren't. Now be transparent and reveal the mystery person who was rejected by the EMG, not HUST. He'll only tell you in person, face to face |
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Post by oldmeadowender on Sept 11, 2015 13:42:17 GMT
Why don;t you just tell us? Why should it be a secret? As it's a HUST issue, I can only tell HUST members. Thought you'd say that. But most people on here ARE HUST members, so you're probably just frustrating them. |
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Post by oldmeadowender on Sept 11, 2015 14:09:26 GMT
Do they offer bribes? If the money's right I'll consider it...
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Post by husterical on Sept 11, 2015 14:15:00 GMT
The facts are that the EMG are responsible for all election matters, including the validity of the nominations!
Keith Hall is head of the committee with two others from the Shrewsbury trust.
Any queries should be directly raised with them!
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Post by jc on Sept 11, 2015 14:15:09 GMT
Guys and ladies, please stop arguing with Grayham, it's boring and tiresome. If you said the sky was blue and the grass green he would argue the toss with you. His sole purpose is to raise your blood pressure and argue. Don't allow him the forum space to continue. All I'm doing is answering the questions. Something you aren't. Now be transparent and reveal the mystery person who was rejected by the EMG, not HUST. As you like to play it Grayham, when I get permission I will do so or you can come and talk to me about it face to face. Have you considered that one or more of the Board didn't put the person forward to the EGM and there in the EGM didn't know about the person? |
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Post by jc on Sept 11, 2015 14:17:04 GMT
The facts are that the EMG are responsible for all election matters, including the validity of the nominations! Keith Hall is head of the committee with two others from the Shrewsbury trust. Any queries should be directly raised with them! Andy thanks for joining in. When did the board set up the EGM? |
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Post by husterical on Sept 11, 2015 14:22:15 GMT
Not 100% sure, but when the Trust was formed I believe. BTW Keith Hall is adamant that the process is carried out with strict adherence to the agreed policy and that all nominations meet the necessary conditions.
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