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Post by nobby on Sept 3, 2015 18:42:08 GMT
Am I stirring up a wasps nest!
What does everyone think of the current situation with people desperate to come to Britain.
Should we take more?
Should we prioritise the Homeless British?
Since the very sad pictures of the young child were shown it seems now many are shouting from the rooftops that we should let more in but can we, housing is in crisis, NHS is in Crisis but these people are also in Crisis, what do we do?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 18:45:47 GMT
Let them live in the millions of empty luxury offices across the country.
That or kick out the Normans to make room. Andy Woolmers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 19:00:36 GMT
Feel very sad for genuine refugees. We should of course take our share, but I am worried about the way some who appear to be genuine seem to think they have a divine right to flout the rules and choose which EU country they want to live in. I'm thinking here about the way the Syrians on the train out of Budapest refused to register there which would have meant that was the country they should claim asylum in, as per article 18.
Do not feel sorry for economic migrants who should be sent home.
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Post by beryl on Sept 3, 2015 19:08:13 GMT
Genuine asylum seekers are meant to seek asylum in the first safe haven they find, not make their way across Europe to get here. The picture of the young boy is very sad but we have enough sad episodes of our own in this country not being dealt with
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 19:09:27 GMT
simple as Nicola sturgen is so keen to let them in we send them to Scotland,plenty of room up there to build a couple of cities the size of Bristol which is needed to fit them all into.
sorry if this sounds harsh but we have taken enough already from other nations(we have 30,000 somalians in Bristol alone)many of whom simply refuse to integrate,another 100000 minimum coming in will simply overwhelm our nhs,schools,housing and social systems,enough is enough now,and if that makes me a racist then I can live with it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 19:12:05 GMT
simple as Nicola sturgen is so keen to let them in we send them to Scotland,plenty of room up there to build a couple of cities the size of Bristol which is needed to fit them all into. sorry if this sounds harsh but we have taken enough already from other nations(we have 30,000 somalians in Bristol alone)many of whom simply refuse to integrate,another 100000 minimum coming in will simply overwhelm our nhs,schools,housing and social systems,enough is enough now,and if that makes me a racist then I can live with it. I would think that the influx of Hancocktish hipsters would be the biggest issue for Bristol right now. Jesus, that place has gone down hill. |
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Post by sittingbull on Sept 3, 2015 19:14:44 GMT
Need to take a hard line, I and my braves did and we won the battle (lost the war) Europe needs to do something to prevent these people leaving their country of origin, like train these people up to fight for their freedom (in their own country) Does this seem viable?
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Post by jc on Sept 3, 2015 19:16:20 GMT
Sorry in advance if this seems a bit too off, but charity begins at home in my opinion.
When we have homes for our own homeless, jobs for our own jobless, an NHS system with no or small waiting lists for our own sick, when our OAPs whom fought in the wars to protect our way of life then we can look after the rest of the world.
I believe there are genuine cases of need sometimes and there we should help but we are not the worlds gateway to another life.
If other countries don't secure their borders that's there issue, not ours.
I was reading the other day about he EU moaning we weren't doing more and that Europe had freedom of movement. Then I remembered the fiasco in Gibraltar a few years ago when the Spanish stopped Brita getting into Spain. The EU weren't so quick to spout off and support us then
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Post by nobby on Sept 3, 2015 19:32:19 GMT
Interesting to see that so far it's a no to these immigrants, for me I can feel for their plight but when they become "safe" in Italy but choose to leave then "safe" in France then choose to leave, with the sole purpose of coming to Britain, it opens up many questions as to why.
I wonder if the ones shouting now were the same ones shouting about how our NHS is in turmoil or about how many people are using food banks but now see a platform to gain popularity while failing to remember past platforms.
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Post by sjpreece on Sept 3, 2015 20:02:05 GMT
Long live Pangea
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 20:12:54 GMT
If you ask me, it all started going wrong when we started letting immigrants in from Gondwanaland.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 20:22:29 GMT
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Post by eveshambull on Sept 3, 2015 20:23:41 GMT
Genuine refugees do need help.., remove the illegal migrants, to make more space to assist people in need., simple as that..
On the flip side, how many Isis will pose as refugees to gain entry to Europe to conduct their terrorist activities..
Just a thought ..
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Post by Differentiabull on Sept 3, 2015 20:28:43 GMT
The image on the front of the Independent is surely one of those that will get remembered, and surely represents a turning point. Very affecting, even for a bitter cynic like me, admittedly probably influenced by me having a child of a similar age myself. It's not right that we have children, dressed like a child from a developed nation - jeans and trainers, just like our kids - washing up on the shores of Europe. We should take our fair share. They'd probably work a darn sight harder than a lot of ours anyway.
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Post by criticscorner on Sept 3, 2015 20:59:47 GMT
simple as Nicola sturgen is so keen to let them in we send them to Scotland,plenty of room up there to build a couple of cities the size of Bristol which is needed to fit them all into. But you would have to kick the absentee landowners and their ethnicaly cleansed private hunting reserves. Ain't going to happen, shame! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 21:47:26 GMT
Why is Hungary, Romania, Poland or Greece different to the UK? I'm all for the government spending money to help these people but why are these people scrambling on trains to get to Germany when they're already in Europe. We could probably take around 500 in but even that's too many and you're only going to entice more to cross into Greece and Turkey. On top of that immigration into the country is already at record levels and houses especially down south can't cope with demand.
Stop the problem at the source. Stop people smugglers and stop illegal movements of people throughout Europe or else it just becomes a complete and utter uncontrolled shambles.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 22:48:02 GMT
Elephant in room-intra european migration,too toxic to discuss?
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Post by bullinkiddy on Sept 4, 2015 0:36:14 GMT
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Post by Differentiabull on Sept 4, 2015 6:54:05 GMT
Why is Hungary, Romania, Poland or Greece different to the UK? I'm all for the government spending money to help these people but why are these people scrambling on trains to get to Germany when they're already in Europe. We could probably take around 500 in but even that's too many and you're only going to entice more to cross into Greece and Turkey. On top of that immigration into the country is already at record levels and houses especially down south can't cope with demand. Stop the problem at the source. Stop people smugglers and stop illegal movements of people throughout Europe or else it just becomes a complete and utter uncontrolled shambles. Yes, obviously the long term solution is to stop it at source, of course it is. But until that point, let's stop having three year olds washing up like a bit of driftwood. |
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Post by bringbackelmo on Sept 4, 2015 9:23:23 GMT
Am I stirring up a wasps nest! What does everyone think of the current situation with people desperate to come to Britain. Should we take more? Should we prioritise the Homeless British? Since the very sad pictures of the young child were shown it seems now many are shouting from the rooftops that we should let more in but can we, housing is in crisis, NHS is in Crisis but these people are also in Crisis, what do we do? Thing is, the housing crisis and the NHS crisis has absolutely nothing to do with immigrants or refugees and everything to do with appalling government policy. The state of the NHS and the state of housing is irrelevant, as humans we have a duty to do more to help these people and the way our government is behaving is shameful. |
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