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Post by colebridgebull on Aug 26, 2015 22:44:20 GMT
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Post by colebridgebull on Aug 26, 2015 22:46:07 GMT
I love Saggy's enthusiasm. Brings a welcome touch of wide eyed innocence to this oh so cynical place. Like Charlie visiting the Chocolate Factory...
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Post by oldmeadowender on Aug 26, 2015 22:53:10 GMT
I love Saggy's enthusiasm. Brings a welcome touch of wide eyed innocence to this oh so cynical place. Like Charlie visiting the Chocolate Factory... Precisely! So embrace it! |
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Post by convertabull on Aug 27, 2015 6:37:24 GMT
#ImWithDelroyFacey
I haven't won my Saturday accumulator in years, with his support all that could change.
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Post by keepmum on Aug 27, 2015 7:01:50 GMT
Just be careful it doesn't end up as patronising and a bit over the top for Harvey ... It's going to be tough enough for him to stand in between those sticks as a young keeper without knowing there's a load of sugary cosated sympathisers standing behind him .. Less criticism would be as good as false praise ..as I've said before it's going to be up to Evans and Beads to get him back in a good headspace with some positive work in training ... Saggybulls not criticising the sentiment.. I think it's a good gesture .. Just sticking my twopenneth worth in
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 8:25:22 GMT
Well its certainly true that Harvey is going through a rocky patch, not just on Tuesday because the first Rocester goal was a serious error. However hes also shown hes a good shotstopper, 2that" save against Dunkirk anyone? Plus the CB issue in front of him is certainly not helping.
But as has been said we've had many players who had dodgy starts and went on to much better things, DLW, Sam Clucas are two that have been mentioned. I also remember a young Steve Emery getting steamrollered (literally) by Wolves Steve Kindon, also an anonymous debut from a 16 year old Kevin Sheedy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 8:36:16 GMT
Last saturday Rochester had 3 shots on target and scored all 3. On Tuesday Coleshill had 5 shots on target and scored all 5.
No amount of twitter campaigns can hide the fact that Harvey Rivers isn't good enough to play at this level. Let him go and let's have DLW between the sticks on saturday.
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Post by kingstonebull on Aug 27, 2015 8:59:22 GMT
He will be all alone if he is there Saturday :-)
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Post by BullRush on Aug 27, 2015 9:33:13 GMT
Last saturday Rochester had 3 shots on target and scored all 3. On Tuesday Coleshill had 5 shots on target and scored all 5. No amount of twitter campaigns can hide the fact that Harvey Rivers isn't good enough to play at this level. Let him go and let's have DLW between the sticks on saturday. Yet Gloucester City 3 leagues higher wanted to keep him on? Please excuse me if I consign your opinion to the 'Total Boll*cks' section of my mind. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 11:05:40 GMT
Well its certainly true that Harvey is going through a rocky patch, not just on Tuesday because the first Rocester goal was a serious error. However hes also shown hes a good shotstopper, 2that" save against Dunkirk anyone? Plus the CB issue in front of him is certainly not helping. But as has been said we've had many players who had dodgy starts and went on to much better things, DLW, Sam Clucas are two that have been mentioned. I also remember a young Steve Emery getting steamrollered (literally) by Wolves Steve Kindon, also an anonymous debut from a 16 year old Kevin Sheedy. #Imwithharveyrivers In my self-appointed role of moderator of the football history, I think you are wrong about that one?
Steve Emery did not actually play in the 6-1 home demolition by Wolves, and by Kindon, in particular. Les Briley wore number 2 on his back that afternoon, but he was aided and abetted, and indeed replaced at right back by one Dudley Tyler who wore number 10. Dudley played further back than Briley and not even he was able to stem Steve "Steel" Kindon. I think?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 11:08:21 GMT
Last saturday Rochester had 3 shots on target and scored all 3. On Tuesday Coleshill had 5 shots on target and scored all 5. No amount of twitter campaigns can hide the fact that Harvey Rivers isn't good enough to play at this level. Let him go and let's have DLW between the sticks on saturday. I assume you were not at Rocester then?
Otherwise you might understand about the deflected goal for example.
Or be aware of the fact that Rocester had more than 3 shots on target (Ok not a huge number)
He was to blame for one of the goals IMO as Ive already said.
Show me an outfield player who never makes a mistake during a game.
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Post by hendre on Aug 27, 2015 11:29:49 GMT
Surely it's about more than just mistakes. He's not commanding his area nor bossing/ organising the defence. He's a young lad learning his trade and it's not fair on him to be the Number 1 keeper at this critical time.
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Post by richardwatts on Aug 27, 2015 11:33:48 GMT
Surely it's about more than just mistakes. He's not commanding his area nor bossing/ organising the defence. He's a young lad learning his trade and it's not fair on him to be the Number 1 keeper at this critical time. Youth is no excuse. There's a 16 year old lad playing for West Ham in front of 60,000 who doesn't show any nerves so what's "Slow" Rivers' excuse? |
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Post by keepmum on Aug 27, 2015 12:42:56 GMT
Surely it's about more than just mistakes. He's not commanding his area nor bossing/ organising the defence. He's a young lad learning his trade and it's not fair on him to be the Number 1 keeper at this critical time. Youth is no excuse. There's a 16 year old lad playing for West Ham in front of 60,000 who doesn't show any nerves so what's "Slow" Rivers' excuse? I'm not going to bite |
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Post by bravesirrobin on Aug 27, 2015 12:56:00 GMT
I've noticed that he is a bit suspect with his kicking - is this because he prefers to kick out of his hands rather than dropping the ball and rolling it along the ground.
You'd think his old man Rivers would have told him to just keep rolling along.....
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Post by Redragtoabull on Aug 27, 2015 13:09:59 GMT
O' man river,
Dat ol' man river,
He mus'know sumpin'
But don't say nuthin'
He jes' keeps rollin'
He keeps on rollin' along.
Hope this helps... |
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Post by bringbackelmo on Aug 27, 2015 13:22:53 GMT
To be fair to Harvey he isn't getting much help from the defence and as a goalkeeper myself I know it can be extremely difficult facing long balls pumped over the top of your defenders, if the defenders aren't dealing with them.
I did say in another thread that now would be a good time to take him out of the firing line before his confidence is completely shot - give the defence to sort themselves out then bring him back in when we're playing better. With no back-up 'keeper that won't be that easy though.
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Post by Mr Branflakes on Aug 27, 2015 13:27:26 GMT
To be fair to Harvey he isn't getting much help from the defence and as a goalkeeper myself I know it can be extremely difficult facing long balls pumped over the top of your defenders, if the defenders aren't dealing with them. I did say in another thread that now would be a good time to take him out of the firing line before his confidence is completely shot - give the defence to sort themselves out then bring him back in when we're playing better. With no back-up 'keeper that won't be that easy though. What about Rhys Evans? Isn't he available to play for us? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 14:30:29 GMT
Last saturday Rochester had 3 shots on target and scored all 3. On Tuesday Coleshill had 5 shots on target and scored all 5. No amount of twitter campaigns can hide the fact that Harvey Rivers isn't good enough to play at this level. Let him go and let's have DLW between the sticks on saturday. Yet Gloucester City 3 leagues higher wanted to keep him on? Please excuse me if I consign your opinion to the 'Total Boll*cks' section of my mind. Trademark Alivination, dear Bullrush. I do believe you have been caught in the act of the old Morsus Calamitatum*. Signature piece of misinformation 'on Saturday". your servant, Homez * The Chomp of Misfortune, if wainwrong will permit it. |
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Post by rodders on Aug 27, 2015 14:39:49 GMT
If what I've been told is correct, then it's little wonder Rivers is struggling. Rhys Evans who is our goalkeeping coach goes in to train Harvey once a month. Now this might be a complete lie but it has come from someone involved in the youth set up last season, and I believe may still be this season.
How can a young keeper expect to improve when he is only getting specialist training once a month? Who is doing it when Rhys isn't there, cus I can't imagine Beads is much use as a goalkeeping coach, and it was the 15 year old youth team keeper warming him up on Tuesday night.
He probably does need taking out of the firing line, because if Gloucester wanted to keep him (they probably have a keeper coach) then he doesn't become a bad keeper over night.
Get DLW in for Few games, get working on that defence and get some wins under our belt. If we went on a run of games it would hopefully be a lot easier for Harvey coming back into a winning side and a defence that has sorted out its early season problems.
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