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Post by halesowen1 on Aug 23, 2015 7:54:20 GMT
Perhaps the shock of being 3-0 down was the catalyst to make the team realise what this league is about. If you have determination and motivation results will follow. Certainly there are players in the squad capable of getting the right results but the team might still need to improve its defensive qualities. A vocal organiser who directs others more seems to be required to cut out the silly errors.
What do others think? A strong performance on Tuesday against Coleshill is a must and a few goals and a clean sheet could do wonders for confidence and belief. After the comeback on saturday there should be a good crowd to watch the game.
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Post by grubber on Aug 23, 2015 8:11:16 GMT
I see a tall, dark central defender from the Stourport area making his way out of the Leigh Sinton pie shop......
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 8:51:38 GMT
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Post by Robin Fridays Right Foot on Aug 23, 2015 8:55:25 GMT
Some of our best attacking football yesterday second half.Young and experienced players are making mistakes and getting punished.Beadle shows no elation or angst unlike some on here.It's a roller coaster and will be for a dozen games until we get some consistency.Beadle knows we need a couple of players,lets just stay steady move up with the front runners and then strengthen to eliminate the soft spots.
See you Tuesday COYW.
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Post by banburybull on Aug 23, 2015 11:51:57 GMT
It was the rain, totally changed the way the pitch played.
We've not had much rain in Aug and played three away games on dry, hard, long grass, bobbly, unwatered pitches.
We have not been able to play the passing game until second half yesterday. I'm not using this an an excuse, certainly for not being 3-0 down, but anyone that has been to those three away games will have seen the difference a watered pitch makes to our game.
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Post by bullyid on Aug 23, 2015 11:58:21 GMT
Yes
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Post by bringbackelmo on Aug 23, 2015 12:08:36 GMT
It would have been nice if it had sunk in after we lost to bloody Stourport, but if yesterday marks a turning point, I'll take it
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Post by reasonabull on Aug 24, 2015 8:38:40 GMT
And where do you think we are going to find nice flat watered pitches to suit our play in this league? If they are bad now just wait til February! The pitches aren't going to improve its our football style that needs to change.
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Post by Peroni on Aug 24, 2015 8:55:40 GMT
And where do you think we are going to find nice flat watered pitches to suit our play in this league? If they are bad now just wait til February! The pitches aren't going to improve its our football style that needs to change. Good point, but we've been playing far too much long ball football already. The state of the pitch doesn't really matter if the ball's in the air all the time. Not so easy to chase after a long ball, if the field is rutted. More likely to have a "Bolt" style stagger ! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 11:24:51 GMT
It was the rain, totally changed the way the pitch played. We've not had much rain in Aug and played three away games on dry, hard, long grass, bobbly, unwatered pitches. We have not been able to play the passing game until second half yesterday. I'm not using this an an excuse, certainly for not being 3-0 down, but anyone that has been to those three away games will have seen the difference a watered pitch makes to our game. I don't agree that it was just the pitch.
Several factors IMO.
Beadle gave them a good old fashioned bollocking. A penny drops moment for certain players?
Beadle changed the system, by bring Bonella on as a holding player and thus allowing both full backs to get forward more and thus keeping the game stretched on a fairly wide pitch. Plus playing the ball on the deck, it was noticeable how Jamer who was the most guilty hoofer started passing on the deck much more often.
With Bonella on Purds played further forward.
We were fitter on average that Rocester.
Page just got better and better in the second half and seemed get more ball. Our best creator IMO.
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Post by BullRush on Aug 24, 2015 12:08:39 GMT
Why don't you ask again on another thread?
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Post by bringbackelmo on Aug 24, 2015 13:09:15 GMT
I don't agree that it was just the pitch.
Several factors IMO.
Beadle gave them a good old fashioned bollocking. A penny drops moment for certain players?
Beadle changed the system, by bring Bonella on as a holding player and thus allowing both full backs to get forward more and thus keeping the game stretched on a fairly wide pitch. Plus playing the ball on the deck, it was noticeable how Jamer who was the most guilty hoofer started passing on the deck much more often.
With Bonells on Purds played further forward.
We were fitter on average that Rocester.
Page just got better and better in the second half and seemed get more ball. Our best creator IMO.
If someone had said to you before the season started, would you be happy with dropping six points in the first four games and failing to keep a clean sheet, would you have taken it? I don't think anyone would have taken it because of a belief that we could do better. I don't think Beads or any of the players would either. That doesn't make an unmitigated disaster though, nor is it a reason for suggesting we need new players. It isn't ideal, but it could be worse. |
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Post by will on Aug 24, 2015 13:49:27 GMT
Of course nobody would have taken it, but having rescued 3 points from certain defeat on Saturday i can accept 6 points from twelve for the time being. 75% of our games so far this season have been away from home where you would imagine our form is going to be weaker anyway. Plus look at how the two sides we have lost to have got on in their other games, both have come flying out the traps and also won their fa cup tie against midland premier opposition. For what its worth i would have taken 9 goals from the first 4 as well.
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Post by dorsetbull on Aug 24, 2015 16:23:55 GMT
And where do you think we are going to find nice flat watered pitches to suit our play in this league? If they are bad now just wait til February! The pitches aren't going to improve its our football style that needs to change. I'll take some water bottles  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 17:57:52 GMT
I don't agree that it was just the pitch.
Several factors IMO.
Beadle gave them a good old fashioned bollocking. A penny drops moment for certain players?
Beadle changed the system, by bring Bonella on as a holding player and thus allowing both full backs to get forward more and thus keeping the game stretched on a fairly wide pitch. Plus playing the ball on the deck, it was noticeable how Jamer who was the most guilty hoofer started passing on the deck much more often.
With Bonells on Purds played further forward.
We were fitter on average that Rocester.
Page just got better and better in the second half and seemed get more ball. Our best creator IMO.
If someone had said to you before the season started, would you be happy with dropping six points in the first four games and failing to keep a clean sheet, would you have taken it? No, I'd have been disappointed.
However I note that the two teams who beat us are first and second. Fair play to Stouport we were not good enough even before the sending off. but at Highgate I thought we were good enough to get something out out of the game. Some days the ball runs for you and on others it doesn't.
There has been too much hysteria on here about we should not settle for anything less than promotion etc IMHO. I'd be happy with a top 5 finish although the way the team played in the second half at Rocester fills me with great hope. I wish we stick with the same formation and tactic of the passing game. Our best 45 minutes so far by a long way.
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Post by nailswortholdbull on Aug 24, 2015 19:59:45 GMT
I just wonder if, had we gathered just 5 points, by means of a home win and 2 away draws, would most people be happier? Is it the fact that we've lost 2 that irks, or the fact that we only have 6 points. To many, it means the same thing, but 2 losses are harder to bear than just one...................
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 20:05:49 GMT
I just wonder if, had we gathered just 5 points, by means of a home win and 2 away draws, would most people be happier? Is it the fact that we've lost 2 that irks, or the fact that we only have 6 points. To many, it means the same thing, but 2 losses are harder to bear than just one................... I think you are right. Two wins and two defeats is, charitably, erratic form (especially if extrapolated over the course of the season), which is not what many were expecting, I think. Even if nothing changes, personnel wise, I would expect the team to hit a groove of form at some point. Like when they've played together a few times. |
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Post by jc on Aug 24, 2015 20:12:57 GMT
I think your right JD, I fully expect them to be right up there once they have a few more games under their belt.
It hasn't helped them gel together with the aways, at the start.
I am hoping tomorrow's game will be the start of the climb up the league.
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Post by bringbackelmo on Aug 24, 2015 20:57:41 GMT
I just wonder if, had we gathered just 5 points, by means of a home win and 2 away draws, would most people be happier? Is it the fact that we've lost 2 that irks, or the fact that we only have 6 points. To many, it means the same thing, but 2 losses are harder to bear than just one................... Nope. Points mean prizes, don't care how we get them or how many games we lose as long as we end the season with more points than everyone else! |
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