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Post by eggchaserbull on Nov 7, 2021 15:52:57 GMT
Was fantastic wasn't it (won't comment on the reffing comments from you and egg chaser!). Actually, totally spoilt at the moment. My home province, Hawkes Bay are totally dominating the local scene over here with similar plays including our first win in Canterbury in decades - and it was a thrashing with some fantastic ball handing skills. And we have kept the Ranfurly Shield in the cupboard for another summer. Brilliant for a provincial side. Was reading the other day the obituary for Sandy Carmichael who died recently. It featured a photograph of him after allegedly being subjected to thuggery when playing against Canterbury. His face was not a pretty sight. It seems such on-field assaults were common in those days, although not unique to NZ club sides. Apparently the South African test sides of the day were even more brutal. I'm not a follower of the sport in any detail so if I have got the wrong end of this particular stick no doubt one or two of you Rugby chaps will put me straight. Sandy Carmichael never named the player who kept hitting him in the face when he was trapped at the bottom of a ruck.He explained that if he did, the story would probably die and the thuggery would be forgotten. Others, including legendary flanker Fergus Slattery, have named the assailant as Alister Hopkinson, the Canterbury prop; Slattery says he must have punched him in the face more than 20 times, leaving him with mutiple fractures to his cheek bones. Carmichael said that after the game, whilst waiting to go to hospital, he was being consoled by Ian 'Mighty Mouse' McLauchlan when he blew his nose; because the sinuses were cracked, his eye socket was inflated and that was the only time he ever saw fear on McLauchlan's face. The game was vilent from the start, and the referee, a NZ doctor no less, told the 2 captains that they would have to sort it out, as he wasn't prepared to. A dereliction of duty? From that day on, Lions teams were not prepared to carry on taking the illegal hits that they were constantly subjected to on these tours, and vowed that an attack on one player was an attack on all. This led to the famous '99' call, instigated by Willie John McBride on the 1974 tour of South Africa; basically, if a Lions player was subjected to foul play, the call '99' was made, and each ot the Lions players hit the opposing player that was nearest to him. The logic was that the referre would not send off all 15 of them. The South Africans were amazed when it actually happened, and there is film of JPR Williams, the full back, running 50 metres to get close enough to hit a South African; Gordon Brown knocked out the false eye of the player standing by him. It worked, 21 wins and a draw on an undefeated tour, although the Lions won by playing running rugby once the South Africans decided it's not so much fun assaulting players who will hit back. I loved that tour; is that wrong of me?
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Post by eggchaserbull on Nov 7, 2021 16:00:11 GMT
Ellis Jenkins, eh? Not a bad comeback after three years out with ACL damage. It's good to see him back, especially after how good he was in the SA game 3 years ago; him and Basham together could be as good as the Warburton and Tipuric combination. I might not be so pleased to see him back next year at Twickenham.
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Post by Hawkeye on Nov 7, 2021 16:19:58 GMT
Was reading the other day the obituary for Sandy Carmichael who died recently. It featured a photograph of him after allegedly being subjected to thuggery when playing against Canterbury. His face was not a pretty sight. It seems such on-field assaults were common in those days, although not unique to NZ club sides. Apparently the South African test sides of the day were even more brutal. I'm not a follower of the sport in any detail so if I have got the wrong end of this particular stick no doubt one or two of you Rugby chaps will put me straight. Sandy Carmichael never named the player who kept hitting him in the face when he was trapped at the bottom of a ruck.He explained that if he did, the story would probably die and the thuggery would be forgotten. Others, including legendary flanker Fergus Slattery, have named the assailant as Alister Hopkinson, the Canterbury prop; Slattery says he must have punched him in the face more than 20 times, leaving him with mutiple fractures to his cheek bones. Carmichael said that after the game, whilst waiting to go to hospital, he was being consoled by Ian 'Mighty Mouse' McLauchlan when he blew his nose; because the sinuses were cracked, his eye socket was inflated and that was the only time he ever saw fear on McLauchlan's face. The game was vilent from the start, and the referee, a NZ doctor no less, told the 2 captains that they would have to sort it out, as he wasn't prepared to. A dereliction of duty? From that day on, Lions teams were not prepared to carry on taking the illegal hits that they were constantly subjected to on these tours, and vowed that an attack on one player was an attack on all. This led to the famous '99' call, instigated by Willie John McBride on the 1974 tour of South Africa; basically, if a Lions player was subjected to foul play, the call '99' was made, and each ot the Lions players hit the opposing player that was nearest to him. The logic was that the referre would not send off all 15 of them. The South Africans were amazed when it actually happened, and there is film of JPR Williams, the full back, running 50 metres to get close enough to hit a South African; Gordon Brown knocked out the false eye of the player standing by him. It worked, 21 wins and a draw on an undefeated tour, although the Lions won by playing running rugby once the South Africans decided it's not so much fun assaulting players who will hit back. I loved that tour; is that wrong of me? Thanks ecb. A good deal of that appears in the obit, including the '99' call. As you suggest, it seems that sorted the buggers out. FWIW, no, I don't believe that's wrong of you.
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Post by somnambulist on Nov 7, 2021 16:53:32 GMT
Was reading the other day the obituary for Sandy Carmichael who died recently. It featured a photograph of him after allegedly being subjected to thuggery when playing against Canterbury. His face was not a pretty sight. It seems such on-field assaults were common in those days, although not unique to NZ club sides. Apparently the South African test sides of the day were even more brutal. I'm not a follower of the sport in any detail so if I have got the wrong end of this particular stick no doubt one or two of you Rugby chaps will put me straight. Sandy Carmichael never named the player who kept hitting him in the face when he was trapped at the bottom of a ruck.He explained that if he did, the story would probably die and the thuggery would be forgotten. Others, including legendary flanker Fergus Slattery, have named the assailant as Alister Hopkinson, the Canterbury prop; Slattery says he must have punched him in the face more than 20 times, leaving him with mutiple fractures to his cheek bones. Carmichael said that after the game, whilst waiting to go to hospital, he was being consoled by Ian 'Mighty Mouse' McLauchlan when he blew his nose; because the sinuses were cracked, his eye socket was inflated and that was the only time he ever saw fear on McLauchlan's face. The game was vilent from the start, and the referee, a NZ doctor no less, told the 2 captains that they would have to sort it out, as he wasn't prepared to. A dereliction of duty? From that day on, Lions teams were not prepared to carry on taking the illegal hits that they were constantly subjected to on these tours, and vowed that an attack on one player was an attack on all. This led to the famous '99' call, instigated by Willie John McBride on the 1974 tour of South Africa; basically, if a Lions player was subjected to foul play, the call '99' was made, and each ot the Lions players hit the opposing player that was nearest to him. The logic was that the referre would not send off all 15 of them. The South Africans were amazed when it actually happened, and there is film of JPR Williams, the full back, running 50 metres to get close enough to hit a South African; Gordon Brown knocked out the false eye of the player standing by him. It worked, 21 wins and a draw on an undefeated tour, although the Lions won by playing running rugby once the South Africans decided it's not so much fun assaulting players who will hit back. I loved that tour; is that wrong of me? Yes, that's wrong of you. But it's wrong of me too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2021 17:16:04 GMT
Ireland loving life.
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Post by glawsterwhite on Nov 13, 2021 17:18:17 GMT
Just like glawster !! And hfc !!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2021 17:35:39 GMT
Just like glawster !! And hfc !! And Caledonian Braves.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2021 20:24:52 GMT
Spotify has just hit me with Dirty Old Town by the Specials.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2021 20:25:43 GMT
Spotify has just hit me with Dirty Old Town by the Specials. Which has f+c& all to do with rugby.
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Post by colebridgebull on Nov 14, 2021 8:53:32 GMT
Just like glawster !! And hfc !! Good weekend. Yes yes I know the relative strength of the teams put out, but any victory over B*th is enjoyable, and a solid thumping (71-10 in front of just over 11000 on a Friday night under lights) particularly so.
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Post by glawsterwhite on Nov 14, 2021 9:54:52 GMT
Quite so cb. You can only beat the team in front of you - perhaps they’ll bring some forwards with them next time ! I was really pleased to see glaws keep their foot on the pedal for the full 80,
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Post by eggchaserbull on Nov 14, 2021 10:16:51 GMT
Ireland v ABs, what a game. I was doing family stuff yesterday afternoon, so didn't get to watch it until nearly midnight. Even watching it on a recording it took me over 2 1/2 hours, had to see everything plus rewinding certain parts; oh yes, and I had to catch up on the liquid intake.
Bit of a head this morning, going to suffer standing at the Remembrance ceremony.
Well done Ireland.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 10:24:04 GMT
Ireland v ABs, what a game. I was doing family stuff yesterday afternoon, so didn't get to watch it until nearly midnight. Even watching it on a recording it took me over 2 1/2 hours, had to see everything plus rewinding certain parts; oh yes, and I had to catch up on the liquid intake. Bit of a head this morning, going to suffer standing at the Remembrance ceremony. Well done Ireland. You didn't watch it with the Queen did you?
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Post by somnambulist on Nov 14, 2021 13:14:25 GMT
Ireland v ABs, what a game. I was doing family stuff yesterday afternoon, so didn't get to watch it until nearly midnight. Even watching it on a recording it took me over 2 1/2 hours, had to see everything plus rewinding certain parts; oh yes, and I had to catch up on the liquid intake. Bit of a head this morning, going to suffer standing at the Remembrance ceremony. Well done Ireland. Brilliant game. Ireland played on the front foot without fear. Thoroughly deserved their victory. And fair play to the All Blacks. As well as being a fantastic side, they're a sporting lot and were gracious in defeat. It's almost as if Ashworth and Meades had never existed (sorry Singe, couldn't resist). Loved the Irish props. Took me back to the days of Adam and Duncan Jones. The fancy haircuts of Marler and Francis just don't cut it for me.
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Post by eggchaserbull on Dec 12, 2021 13:07:45 GMT
FAO colebridgebull Some excellent posts from you on the Coronavirus thread, today; the sort of posts you'd expect from somebody to whom words are part of their workaday world, and who would have knowledge of the legality of marrying a scrummage.
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Post by colebridgebull on Dec 12, 2021 13:29:22 GMT
The good posters on Shedweb were forming an orderly queue on Friday night. It was a beautiful beautiful thing. You do not go to France and shove their pack all over the park. Particularly when theirs is packed with internationals and yours is made up, primarily, of 19 and 20 year olds.
It’s probably good for many of our marriages that so few of us were actually therein the end…
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2021 13:44:46 GMT
Well that has cleared the mystery of rugby up for everyone.
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Post by glawsterwhite on Dec 12, 2021 17:47:25 GMT
Yes cb a valiant performance from a scratch team 😁 The coaches really have instilled dog and real self belief in the squad - great to see ! I think that with our regular back row we would have won that game
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Post by eggchaserbull on Dec 13, 2021 11:53:31 GMT
The good posters on Shedweb were forming an orderly queue on Friday night. It was a beautiful beautiful thing. You do not go to France and shove their pack all over the park. Particularly when theirs is packed with internationals and yours is made up, primarily, of 19 and 20 year olds. It’s probably good for many of our marriages that so few of us were actually therein the end… I actually thought we were going to win with that lineout close to their line, near the end; especially the way the lineout maul has gone this season. I blame Mrs eggchaserbull for the fact that we messed it up. She was worried about me, on Friday night, as she had not heard any swearing and moaning at the TV; this is normal for me when watching Glos on the box. Outrageously, she ventured down into the Mancave just as we threw in to that lineout. She'd broken the spell; there was me with an empty glass, which had been empty since young Jordan's try (another great steal from the Tigers by the looks of it) because I didn't want to break the spell. After a few b0ll0cks and fecks* she made a tactical withdrawal, confident that I was back to normal. * I do wish she wouldn't do that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2021 12:25:44 GMT
There is a good school rugby anecdote (and general bulldogs type stuff) on BBC Sounds. Mark Steele (who I think is brilliant) Headliners. Worth a listen.
He is talking about being educated in the 1970s which will resonate with many on here.
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