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Post by Saul Goodman on Jul 17, 2018 21:34:26 GMT
.....according to the BBC News at 10.00 this evening, Japan and the European Union have signed a humungous trade deal.
In fact, the biggest deal ever between the two countries.
So there you have it.
The EU is a country.
Or, in other words, a state.
Happy Days.
FFS!
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Post by colebridgebull on Jul 17, 2018 22:24:50 GMT
No. It isn't a country. Or a state.
It's a union. It's a free trade deal which, if BREXIT goes ahead, the U.K. will be excluded from. Interestingly, from 29 March next year the U.K. will be the only country in the world with no trade deals in place and no teams of skilled, hard nosed negotiators to secure them. Didn't see that on a bus.
If you want an analogy, Hereford FC play in a league with other teams. They could go it alone, but playing the reserves every week would soon lose its appeal.
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Post by Saul Goodman on Jul 17, 2018 22:30:00 GMT
You've entirely missed the point of my "tongue in cheek" observation that Fiona Bruce read from her autocue that the European Union is a country.
Some fecker in the BBC News production team slipped that little gem in.
I wonder, does he or she support leave, or remain?
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Post by colebridgebull on Jul 17, 2018 22:33:09 GMT
Ah-ok. I get it now.
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Post by MAXBULL on Jul 17, 2018 23:12:01 GMT
I hate Honda Mazda Toyota Mitsubishi Suzuki and Nissan cars anyway. Give me a good old British car any day.  Actually that's an idea, why don't we make some cars? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 6:11:33 GMT
Because we're no good at anything.
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Post by FASH on Jul 18, 2018 7:41:54 GMT
I wonder if Japan will forced to allow the free movement of people from the EU to get this tariff free trade deal?
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Post by Palms Halt on Jul 18, 2018 7:48:54 GMT
I wonder if Japan will forced to allow the free movement of people from the EU to get this tariff free trade deal? It's amazing what you can get if you have people capable of negotiating trade deals competently. |
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Post by indefatigabull on Jul 18, 2018 8:28:33 GMT
Leaving aside Roberto's point about the EU not being a country, on Radio 4 this morning the Japanese Ambassador to the UK said this trade deal has taken five years to negotiate and that the 10% tariff on Japanese-made cars will reduce to 0% over the next eight years.
If Doctor Liam Fox gets his skates on, he may be able to sort something similar for the UK by 2032.
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Post by Peroni on Jul 18, 2018 8:45:12 GMT
No. It isn't a country. Or a state. It's a union. It's a free trade deal which, if BREXIT goes ahead, the U.K. will be excluded from. Interestingly, from 29 March next year the U.K. will be the only country in the world with no trade deals in place and no teams of skilled, hard nosed negotiators to secure them. Didn't see that on a bus. If you want an analogy, Hereford FC play in a league with other teams. They could go it alone, but playing the reserves every week would soon lose its appeal. Thats sounds like fun. So 1 week Symo could just pop up north and insist on playing for F C United as they have a good winger, then on the Tuesday, the keeper from Harriers will walk through the Edgar St dressing room telling Beadle he will be in goal that night, because he does not fancy a long trip to Blyth, and the grass is also softer, so Horse can sit on the bench. |
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Post by Saul Goodman on Jul 18, 2018 9:35:04 GMT
Leaving aside Roberto's point about the EU not being a country, on Radio 4 this morning the Japanese Ambassador to the UK said this trade deal has taken five years to negotiate and that the 10% tariff on Japanese-made cars will reduce to 0% over the next eight years. If Doctor Liam Fox gets his skates on, he may be able to sort something similar for the UK by 2032. Yes, a fascinating interview. The EU has agreed that cars manufactured in Japan will ultimately not be subject to the current tariff. However, he also confirmed that Japanese cars manufactured in the UK and exported to EU member states would still be subject to the 10% tariff once (if) we leave the EU. Liam Fox couldn't negotiate his way out of a paper bag. Nor, it would seem, could our current Prime Minister. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 10:08:17 GMT
Leaving aside Roberto's point about the EU not being a country, on Radio 4 this morning the Japanese Ambassador to the UK said this trade deal has taken five years to negotiate and that the 10% tariff on Japanese-made cars will reduce to 0% over the next eight years. If Doctor Liam Fox gets his skates on, he may be able to sort something similar for the UK by 2032. Yes, a fascinating interview. The EU has agreed that cars manufactured in Japan will ultimately not be subject to the current tariff. However, he also confirmed that Japanese cars manufactured in the UK and exported to EU member states would still be subject to the 10% tariff once (if) we leave the EU. Liam Fox couldn't negotiate his way out of a paper bag. Nor, it would seem, could our current Prime Minister. While I agree completely with your assessment of them both, they've put themselves in a position where they have nothing to negotiate with. The haste with which article 50 was triggered - motivated, I am utterly convinced - mainly by the timetable to which the EU is working to tighten up on non-domiciliary tax havens, started the clock ticking. A clear statement of intent was made - "we're offski, deal or no deal." You can't then spend the next two years trying to negotiate a deal if you have already declared an intention to leave without one. This should have been planned for a minimum of 10 years before anyone mentioned triggering Article 50 and if it then transpired that, actually, there is no deal that works in the UK's best interest we don't leave. We stay part of the EU and address its many faults as a member state. |
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Post by Incognito on Jul 18, 2018 10:23:14 GMT
Leaving aside Roberto's point about the EU not being a country, on Radio 4 this morning the Japanese Ambassador to the UK said this trade deal has taken five years to negotiate and that the 10% tariff on Japanese-made cars will reduce to 0% over the next eight years. If Doctor Liam Fox gets his skates on, he may be able to sort something similar for the UK by 2032. Yes, a fascinating interview. The EU has agreed that cars manufactured in Japan will ultimately not be subject to the current tariff. However, he also confirmed that Japanese cars manufactured in the UK and exported to EU member states would still be subject to the 10% tariff once (if) we leave the EU. Liam Fox couldn't negotiate his way out of a paper bag. Nor, it would seem, could our current Prime Minister. In which case they could have no gripes if we loaded 10% on to all the EU manufactures cars coming into The UK? |
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Post by Saul Goodman on Jul 18, 2018 10:34:49 GMT
But doing that wouldn't persuade the Japanese (or the Germans with Mini and Rolls Royce) to continue to manufacture here or to invest further into the existing plants
And by and large, typical UK buyers of VAG, BMW and Mercedes cars wouldn't flinch too much with higher prices.
Like you, I voted leave.
As each day passes, I understand why that was a mistake.
And that the way this whole dog's breakfast of a saga is being conducted in the full glare of global publicity is making our once great nation a laughing stock.
More of one, even, than that idiot Trump.
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Post by sittingbull on Jul 18, 2018 10:43:40 GMT
Roberto, you voted leave with a thought and understanding to why......now you let a load of EU personnel scare you into thinking you did wrong, Stop worrying, and start planning for the future. The world was going to stop at midnight in 2000, did it? but it didn't stop people trying to worry others now, did it.
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Post by indefatigabull on Jul 18, 2018 10:57:08 GMT
But doing that wouldn't persuade the Japanese (or the Germans with Mini and Rolls Royce) to continue to manufacture here or to invest further into the existing plants And by and large, typical UK buyers of VAG, BMW and Mercedes cars wouldn't flinch too much with higher prices. Like you, I voted leave. As each day passes, I understand why that was a mistake. And that the way this whole dog's breakfast of a saga is being conducted in the full glare of global publicity is making our once great nation a laughing stock. More of one, even, than that idiot Trump. Don't bring Trump into this. To quote 'God' on Twitter this morning - Whatever you think about Trump, I think we can all agree he's a piece of sh!t. When (if) we leave the EU, I predict that one day we will be banging on the door asking them to let us back in. |
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Post by Saul Goodman on Jul 18, 2018 11:00:57 GMT
Roberto, you voted leave with a thought and understanding to why......now you let a load of EU personnel scare you into thinking you did wrong, Stop worrying, and start planning for the future. The world was going to stop at midnight in 2000, did it? but it didn't stop people trying to worry others now, did it. You make fair points. However, what scares me the most is the ineptitude of our government. It's just shambolic. And the opposition doesn't fill me with optimism either. John Major's shenanigans with the Maastricht Treaty landed us with over a decade of Blair, Brown and Mandelson. I believe that lot didn't do us many favours but when compared to Corbyn, Abbott and Starmer, they are likely to appear to have been competent. Anyway, as this is supposed to be a football forum, I'll stop now. I promised myself I wouldn't become involved in politics on here again. 🤔 |
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Post by Saul Goodman on Jul 18, 2018 11:03:52 GMT
But doing that wouldn't persuade the Japanese (or the Germans with Mini and Rolls Royce) to continue to manufacture here or to invest further into the existing plants And by and large, typical UK buyers of VAG, BMW and Mercedes cars wouldn't flinch too much with higher prices. Like you, I voted leave. As each day passes, I understand why that was a mistake. And that the way this whole dog's breakfast of a saga is being conducted in the full glare of global publicity is making our once great nation a laughing stock. More of one, even, than that idiot Trump. Don't bring Trump into this. To quote 'God' on Twitter this morning - Whatever you think about Trump, I think we can all agree he's a piece of sh!t. When (if) we leave the EU, I predict that one day we will be banging on the door asking them to let us back in. I don't "do" Twitter or BookFace. Out of interest, to whom do you refer as 'God'? |
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Post by Incognito on Jul 18, 2018 11:05:17 GMT
But doing that wouldn't persuade the Japanese (or the Germans with Mini and Rolls Royce) to continue to manufacture here or to invest further into the existing plants And by and large, typical UK buyers of VAG, BMW and Mercedes cars wouldn't flinch too much with higher prices. Like you, I voted leave. As each day passes, I understand why that was a mistake. And that the way this whole dog's breakfast of a saga is being conducted in the full glare of global publicity is making our once great nation a laughing stock. More of one, even, than that idiot Trump. Don't bring Trump into this. To quote 'God' on Twitter this morning - Whatever you think about Trump, I think we can all agree he's a piece of sh!t. When (if) we leave the EU, I predict that one day we will be banging on the door asking them to let us back in. At which point the French will say Non for the next twenty years and afterwards, blockade the ports bringing in goods from The UK.
Been there, done that.
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Post by Saul Goodman on Jul 18, 2018 11:32:27 GMT
I think you just made a very good case to remain.
😂
BTW, how's your dodgy knee?
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