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Post by Peroni on Oct 26, 2021 10:15:38 GMT
Think its actually expected points difference.
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Post by glawsterwhite on Oct 26, 2021 20:00:46 GMT
I was looking in to getting tickets for someone off a Welsh fella I used to work with for Wales France or Wales Scotland in the 6 Nations obviously. The request was bottom tier, the ticket prices were £105 or £100. The middle tier are £115. Twickenham tickets must be mental based on that. The person realised they had a nice big telly when I quoted the prices. It will probably sell out though I guess. They must be charging per expected New Zealand point. 😂😂😂
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Post by somnambulist on Oct 30, 2021 20:47:43 GMT
Autumn internationals start this weekend, a week before the international window when clubs have to release players to the test teams. Two games in the UK, Scotland v Tonga and Wales v All Blacks; normally, I would think the Wales game wold be the one to watch, but seeing as they will only have about a third of their first choice players available,* I think the Scotland game is the most interesting. I hope all those fans who have paid record ticket prices for the Wales game get their money's worth, but, frankly, I doubt that they will #ripoff. The only interest for me is, because of players' non-availability, the 21 year old Dragon's openside flanker, Taine Basham (great name), will get to go against the All Blacks back row; he is definitely a player for the future. * Even I had a call to see if I was available, and I'm English; apparently, I qualify through my wife's nationality. He went very well. One of the few to distinguish themselves. A good half from Priestland too.
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Post by eggchaserbull on Oct 31, 2021 12:02:07 GMT
Autumn internationals start this weekend, a week before the international window when clubs have to release players to the test teams. Two games in the UK, Scotland v Tonga and Wales v All Blacks; normally, I would think the Wales game wold be the one to watch, but seeing as they will only have about a third of their first choice players available,* I think the Scotland game is the most interesting. I hope all those fans who have paid record ticket prices for the Wales game get their money's worth, but, frankly, I doubt that they will #ripoff. The only interest for me is, because of players' non-availability, the 21 year old Dragon's openside flanker, Taine Basham (great name), will get to go against the All Blacks back row; he is definitely a player for the future. * Even I had a call to see if I was available, and I'm English; apparently, I qualify through my wife's nationality. He went very well. One of the few to distinguish themselves. A good half from Priestland too. He's definitely a talent. Thought Johnny McNicholl played well, also. I hate to criticise refs, but I thought M. Raynal reffed the ABs as so many do around the world; that is differently to every other team. The ABs play to the edge of the laws, but he was not penalising them when they stepped over the edge: going off feet when jackalling; being just offside; side entries; forward passes; and how 2 players can no-arms tackle our old Gloucester boy, Ross Moriarty, making contact to the head with the arm and end up with just 1 yellow card between them is incredible. The ref blamed Moriarty for leading with his head, FFS. It's ironic that Beauden Barrett's 2 intercept tries were the result of forward passes from 2 of the Kiwis playing for Wales.
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Post by somnambulist on Nov 1, 2021 12:05:08 GMT
He went very well. One of the few to distinguish themselves. A good half from Priestland too. He's definitely a talent. Thought Johnny McNicholl played well, also. I hate to criticise refs, but I thought M. Raynal reffed the ABs as so many do around the world; that is differently to every other team. The ABs play to the edge of the laws, but he was not penalising them when they stepped over the edge: going off feet when jackalling; being just offside; side entries; forward passes; and how 2 players can no-arms tackle our old Gloucester boy, Ross Moriarty, making contact to the head with the arm and end up with just 1 yellow card between them is incredible. The ref blamed Moriarty for leading with his head, FFS. It's ironic that Beauden Barrett's 2 intercept tries were the result of forward passes from 2 of the Kiwis playing for Wales. Unpenalised offsides and forward passes are two of my bugbears! I am also completely perplexed by the deliberate knock on rule. Whilst I think it is entirely possible to intercept with only one hand, why did Barrett get penalised but not carded? Have the laws changed? Wales looked ring-rusty, though even on a good day they would probably have been beaten. It would help if we had a scrum half who could actually box kick. Dynamic as Davies and Williams undoubtedly are, neither has the all-round game of an in-form Webb or even the more prosaic Aled Davies. Loved watching the handling skills of NZ in the second half. Some of their off-loads were truly mesmerising. A great side playing rugby the way it should be played.
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Post by eggchaserbull on Nov 1, 2021 13:03:49 GMT
He's definitely a talent. Thought Johnny McNicholl played well, also. I hate to criticise refs, but I thought M. Raynal reffed the ABs as so many do around the world; that is differently to every other team. The ABs play to the edge of the laws, but he was not penalising them when they stepped over the edge: going off feet when jackalling; being just offside; side entries; forward passes; and how 2 players can no-arms tackle our old Gloucester boy, Ross Moriarty, making contact to the head with the arm and end up with just 1 yellow card between them is incredible. The ref blamed Moriarty for leading with his head, FFS. It's ironic that Beauden Barrett's 2 intercept tries were the result of forward passes from 2 of the Kiwis playing for Wales. Unpenalised offsides and forward passes are two of my bugbears! I am also completely perplexed by the deliberate knock on rule. Whilst I think it is entirely possible to intercept with only one hand, why did Barrett get penalised but not carded? Have the laws changed?Wales looked ring-rusty, though even on a good day they would probably have been beaten. It would help if we had a scrum half who could actually box kick. Dynamic as Davies and Williams undoubtedly neither has the all-round game of an in-form Webb or even the more prosaic Aled Davies. Loved watching the handling skills of NZ in the second half. Some of their off-loads were truly mesmerising. A great side playing rugby the way it should be played. Only if it's an AB who deliberately knocks on. Only joking. In this case, I think the ref got it right; it was not a deliberate slap down, I think Barrett was just going for it hoping he could intercept, it's what he does. It was about 50 yards from the try line, if memory serves, and there was cover; if it had happened near or in the 22 then he would probably have got a card. I don't think there is a directive that a deliberate knock on is a definite yellow, I think it's covered by the cynical actions in general laws, leaving the ref some discretion.
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Post by singe on Nov 3, 2021 7:05:25 GMT
He's definitely a talent. Thought Johnny McNicholl played well, also. I hate to criticise refs, but I thought M. Raynal reffed the ABs as so many do around the world; that is differently to every other team. The ABs play to the edge of the laws, but he was not penalising them when they stepped over the edge: going off feet when jackalling; being just offside; side entries; forward passes; and how 2 players can no-arms tackle our old Gloucester boy, Ross Moriarty, making contact to the head with the arm and end up with just 1 yellow card between them is incredible. The ref blamed Moriarty for leading with his head, FFS. It's ironic that Beauden Barrett's 2 intercept tries were the result of forward passes from 2 of the Kiwis playing for Wales. Unpenalised offsides and forward passes are two of my bugbears! I am also completely perplexed by the deliberate knock on rule. Whilst I think it is entirely possible to intercept with only one hand, why did Barrett get penalised but not carded? Have the laws changed? Wales looked ring-rusty, though even on a good day they would probably have been beaten. It would help if we had a scrum half who could actually box kick. Dynamic as Davies and Williams undoubtedly are, neither has the all-round game of an in-form Webb or even the more prosaic Aled Davies. Loved watching the handling skills of NZ in the second half. Some of their off-loads were truly mesmerising. A great side playing rugby the way it should be played. Was fantastic wasn't it (won't comment on the reffing comments from you and egg chaser!). Actually, totally spoilt at the moment. My home province, Hawkes Bay are totally dominating the local scene over here with similar plays including our first win in Canterbury in decades - and it was a thrashing with some fantastic ball handing skills. And we have kept the Ranfurly Shield in the cupboard for another summer. Brilliant for a provincial side.
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Post by glawsterwhite on Nov 3, 2021 9:09:03 GMT
More important than all the above glaws unbeaten run ended on Friday night ! And with hfc losing my weekend was just about complete !
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Post by somnambulist on Nov 3, 2021 10:27:10 GMT
Unpenalised offsides and forward passes are two of my bugbears! I am also completely perplexed by the deliberate knock on rule. Whilst I think it is entirely possible to intercept with only one hand, why did Barrett get penalised but not carded? Have the laws changed? Wales looked ring-rusty, though even on a good day they would probably have been beaten. It would help if we had a scrum half who could actually box kick. Dynamic as Davies and Williams undoubtedly are, neither has the all-round game of an in-form Webb or even the more prosaic Aled Davies. Loved watching the handling skills of NZ in the second half. Some of their off-loads were truly mesmerising. A great side playing rugby the way it should be played. Was fantastic wasn't it (won't comment on the reffing comments from you and egg chaser!). Actually, totally spoilt at the moment. My home province, Hawkes Bay are totally dominating the local scene over here with similar plays including our first win in Canterbury in decades - and it was a thrashing with some fantastic ball handing skills. And we have kept the Ranfurly Shield in the cupboard for another summer. Brilliant for a provincial side. Thanks. Enjoyed that. That McClutchie is a bit of a live wire!
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Post by colebridgebull on Nov 3, 2021 11:24:02 GMT
More important than all the above glaws unbeaten run ended on Friday night ! And with hfc losing my weekend was just about complete ! It was a disappointing result, but (first half at least) a very encouraging display. out Exetering Exeter from a rolling maul in the first half was particularly enjoyable. As was the almost total absence of headdresses and the chop from the good sized contingent from Devon.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2021 12:08:43 GMT
More important than all the above glaws unbeaten run ended on Friday night ! And with hfc losing my weekend was just about complete ! It was a disappointing result, but (first half at least) a very encouraging display. out Exetering Exeter from a rolling maul in the first half was particularly enjoyable. As was the almost total absence of headdresses and the chop from the good sized contingent from Devon. If people are really offended about people having fun with headdresses then why haven't they removed the image from their badge? When are people going to crack down on Boston Celtics, Phoenix Rising and the New York Giants?
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Post by somnambulist on Nov 3, 2021 12:42:57 GMT
More important than all the above glaws unbeaten run ended on Friday night ! And with hfc losing my weekend was just about complete ! It was a disappointing result, but (first half at least) a very encouraging display. out Exetering Exeter from a rolling maul in the first half was particularly enjoyable. As was the almost total absence of headdresses and the chop from the good sized contingent from Devon. Shockingly ignorant interview with Tony Rowe in the Guardian recently. The club really aren't doing themselves any favours. I do think the headdresses and chop will go though, whether it be mandated from on high, or the Exeter fans realise what harm it is doing to their brand (God, I hate that word!). www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/oct/15/exeter-tony-rowe-were-not-trying-to-belittle-the-image-or-ancestry-of-anyone
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Post by ronnieclayton on Nov 3, 2021 12:59:37 GMT
Dodgy names? How about Saracens? They were originally Arab Muslims. My brother and my brother-in-law both played for Sarries a long time before they went professional so have to support despite their recent financial tricks.
Atlanta Braves won the World Series last night and the Chop is universal at their games. Even Trump was doing it - but then, he would.
'World Series' even. How can that be the right name if no-one outside the US is allowed to take part?
Answers in a plain brown envelope please.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2021 13:10:34 GMT
Although I appreciate that items which are or have been related to ceremony and/or war within a culture are a delicate matter, surely 'cultural appropriation' is either a) not possible or b) one of the most important processes to have happened in human history?
Culture is fluid. Any notions or material culture stem from a specific point in the timeline of any given culture. Ideas and goods change (or change value and/or meaning) within a culture over time. One of the main causes of these changes, if not THE main cause, is exposure to other ideas, materials and processes of other cultures.
Therefore, the idea of cultural appropriation is either not possible as all cultures stem from the first animals to have created 'culture' or one of the most important processes in human development as, without it, we'd all be sitting on our own in complete isolation with no thoughts in our mind, no goods in our hands, and no way of 'developing' beyond anything other than 'see, kill, eat' creatures.
I only mention this because I fear that sometimes this basic idea is completely lost in the meaningless arguments which people seem to enjoy in the 21st century.
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Post by Peroni on Nov 3, 2021 14:07:32 GMT
As far as Edgar St is concerned, Hale said "not going to be 'chopping and changing'"
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Post by colebridgebull on Nov 3, 2021 14:24:29 GMT
It was a disappointing result, but (first half at least) a very encouraging display. out Exetering Exeter from a rolling maul in the first half was particularly enjoyable. As was the almost total absence of headdresses and the chop from the good sized contingent from Devon. If people are really offended about people having fun with headdresses then why haven't they removed the image from their badge? When are people going to crack down on Boston Celtics, Phoenix Rising and the New York Giants? Not sure if that’s aimed at me (suggesting “offence”) but my problem is more to do with trying to see the game when some 6ft plus middle aged rosy cheeked Devonian is standing in front of me in a packed out Shed sporting a fecking humongous bit of unnecessary headwear than the cultural appropriation bit which I’ve never really been overly fussed about. I don’t like the Chop, but more because it’s an irritating chant. Not that anyone from Gloucester can moan as we only have one ourselves (the 12” version is reserved for when we win…)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2021 14:31:20 GMT
If people are really offended about people having fun with headdresses then why haven't they removed the image from their badge? When are people going to crack down on Boston Celtics, Phoenix Rising and the New York Giants? Not sure if that’s aimed at me (suggesting “offence”) but my problem is more to do with trying to see the game when some 6ft plus middle aged rosy cheeked Devonian is standing in front of me in a packed out Shed sporting a fecking humongous bit of unnecessary headwear than the cultural appropriation bit which I’ve never really been overly fussed about. I don’t like the Chop, but more because it’s an irritating chant. Not that anyone from Gloucester can moan as we only have one ourselves (the 12” version is reserved for when we win…) My stuff about cultural appropriation specifically were more in response to the Wasps* comment in the Guardian article. *who I consider to be vile practitioners of species appropriation. So they should probably wind their whatever-wasps-call-their-necks in.
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Post by eggchaserbull on Nov 3, 2021 14:59:49 GMT
Unpenalised offsides and forward passes are two of my bugbears! I am also completely perplexed by the deliberate knock on rule. Whilst I think it is entirely possible to intercept with only one hand, why did Barrett get penalised but not carded? Have the laws changed? Wales looked ring-rusty, though even on a good day they would probably have been beaten. It would help if we had a scrum half who could actually box kick. Dynamic as Davies and Williams undoubtedly are, neither has the all-round game of an in-form Webb or even the more prosaic Aled Davies. Loved watching the handling skills of NZ in the second half. Some of their off-loads were truly mesmerising. A great side playing rugby the way it should be played. Was fantastic wasn't it (won't comment on the reffing comments from you and egg chaser!). Actually, totally spoilt at the moment. My home province, Hawkes Bay are totally dominating the local scene over here with similar plays including our first win in Canterbury in decades - and it was a thrashing with some fantastic ball handing skills. And we have kept the Ranfurly Shield in the cupboard for another summer. Brilliant for a provincial side. Wow, first win since even I was a boy for you at Canterbury, and doing it with 45 points on the board; I bet that felt sweet. It must be a joy to watch Hawkes Bay at the moment, with that 10 - 12 - 13 combination you've got. Watching that showed the difference between NZ rugby players and the rest of the world; the NZ players, from 1 to 23, are all comfortable with ball in hand, and have all mastered the basic handling skills. Congratulations on hanging on to the Ranfurly Shield for another season; you've got to go for that Auckland record now.
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Post by somnambulist on Nov 7, 2021 14:04:00 GMT
Ellis Jenkins, eh? Not a bad comeback after three years out with ACL damage.
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Post by Hawkeye on Nov 7, 2021 14:58:38 GMT
Unpenalised offsides and forward passes are two of my bugbears! I am also completely perplexed by the deliberate knock on rule. Whilst I think it is entirely possible to intercept with only one hand, why did Barrett get penalised but not carded? Have the laws changed? Wales looked ring-rusty, though even on a good day they would probably have been beaten. It would help if we had a scrum half who could actually box kick. Dynamic as Davies and Williams undoubtedly are, neither has the all-round game of an in-form Webb or even the more prosaic Aled Davies. Loved watching the handling skills of NZ in the second half. Some of their off-loads were truly mesmerising. A great side playing rugby the way it should be played. Was fantastic wasn't it (won't comment on the reffing comments from you and egg chaser!). Actually, totally spoilt at the moment. My home province, Hawkes Bay are totally dominating the local scene over here with similar plays including our first win in Canterbury in decades - and it was a thrashing with some fantastic ball handing skills. And we have kept the Ranfurly Shield in the cupboard for another summer. Brilliant for a provincial side. Was reading the other day the obituary for Sandy Carmichael who died recently. It featured a photograph of him after allegedly being subjected to thuggery when playing against Canterbury. His face was not a pretty sight. It seems such on-field assaults were common in those days, although not unique to NZ club sides. Apparently the South African test sides of the day were even more brutal. I'm not a follower of the sport in any detail so if I have got the wrong end of this particular stick no doubt one or two of you Rugby chaps will put me straight.
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