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Post by eggchaserbull on Nov 27, 2018 14:39:34 GMT
Erm, I don't think so. HT says 82% of delegates would vote the same way as they did in the referendum, which sums up sod all. It means that 18%, nearly a fifth, would vote differently. In a referendum where there was something like 33.5 million votes cast, that's over 4 million votes. There was something like a 17.5million to 16million split, so 4 million votes moving about could change the whole complexion of the result. However, the HT doesn't say how the delegates would vote now, so we've no idea how it would affect the outcome; just another piece of meaningless journalism from the HT (from the assistant editor, no less).
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Post by Peroni on Nov 27, 2018 14:49:10 GMT
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Post by colebridgebull on Nov 27, 2018 14:57:00 GMT
I see Mr Ian Mean has re-surfaced in Herefordshire.
Former editor of the Gloucester Citizen (and Mr Harris' FIL. Allegedly)
Also a MASSIVE self publicist
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Post by mikeunderpenyard on Nov 27, 2018 15:07:19 GMT
"Self publicist"
Has the sweary filter been changed again?
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Post by Peroni on Nov 29, 2018 10:23:37 GMT
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Post by Peroni on Nov 29, 2018 16:33:42 GMT
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Post by changeabull on Nov 29, 2018 16:53:13 GMT
"Mr Corbyn claimed he preferred ITV's bid out of "respect" for viewers who wanted to watch the I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here! final on ITV the same evening - 9 December. "I want to watch it myself," he said." Jesus wept! Glad to know The Bearded Devil* has got his priorities right. * Nickname © Jammo
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Post by Skomer on Nov 29, 2018 19:29:44 GMT
Jammo's point about immigration and house prices set me off on some research. A Nottingham University paper (https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/economics/documents/research-first/luke-green.pdf) asserts that for every 1% increase in immigration in an area, house prices fall by 3.8%. It seems well off natives flee.
The real causes of house price inflation are mostly supply side: we need to build more houses!Simple!On the demand side: final salary pensions going, government distortions of the market, banks desperate to lend (although that is being reigned back a bit now).
Finally, the latest immigration figures show no reduction overall, but a big decline from the EU - more left than came in April to June. I said on here 2 years ago that Brexit will not reduce immigration and it looks as if I might have been correct. People from south Asia will take up the slack. The difference is that many EU citizens work in the UK for a while then go back home. Those from south Asia tend not to (a bit of a generalisation, I know). Ironically, this means that Brexit may in fact cause an increase in net immigration. It also means that we are likely to experience a bigger cultural mix change than many red in the tooth Brexiteers are likely to find palatable. Unexpected consequences strike again.
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Post by Barney still in B-Block on Dec 4, 2018 18:32:38 GMT
Not so unexpected in some quarters. Way back in the piece, there was talk from Countries outside of the EU of more open access for people in return for half-decent trade deals. Which, in reality will need to be permitted, if tens of thousands of low-skilled vacancies are to be filled.
It’s a pretty large irony that many of our older generations who voted out will find the Care-Homes they will reside in will be staffed by non-EU immigrants.
(Although recent developments in Westminster suggest that Brexit may not be quite as nailed on as some would hope. Anyone else suspect that T May, a remainer let’s not forget, has brilliantly trolled Parliament and the whole country in deliberately arranging such a lousy deal that the sensible second referendum option kicks the whole sh1tshow into touch for ever?)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 18:58:40 GMT
Not so unexpected in some quarters. Way back in the piece, there was talk from Countries outside of the EU of more open access for people in return for half-decent trade deals. Which, in reality will need to be permitted, if tens of thousands of low-skilled vacancies are to be filled. It’s a pretty large irony that many of our older generations who voted out will find the Care-Homes they will reside in will be staffed by non-EU immigrants. (Although recent developments in Westminster suggest that Brexit may not be quite as nailed on as some would hope. Anyone else suspect that T May, a remainer let’s not forget, has brilliantly trolled Parliament and the whole country in deliberately arranging such a lousy deal that the sensible second referendum option kicks the whole sh1tshow into touch for ever?) Gotta be hasn't it?
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Post by onlooker on Dec 4, 2018 19:03:24 GMT
Over the last couple of weeks I have increasingly suspected that Brexit will not happen. Article 50 will be revoked and we will remain in the status quo. This will have to be engineered so that it comes about as a cross party initiative with a free vote as either main party proposing this is likely to be annihilated at the next general election. The UK will of course be humiliated in the eyes of the other EU members.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 19:06:25 GMT
CB has already cashed in.
TBFL, over the last two years he's made a monkey out of the Swansea Tory boy and his ilk.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 19:08:29 GMT
Even that vile vermin **** Farage appears to have chucked in the towel.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 19:09:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 19:10:46 GMT
As for that other vile vermin **** Cameron, history will be his judge. And he will be found wanting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 19:30:19 GMT
No you fail to identify the real vermin. You're not alone, to be fair. Because you have this blinkered Labour/Tory Left/Right mindset, you continue to misunderstand and misrepresent just about everything.
The real vermin is the electorate. Get it into your head once and for all. And the fecking rest of you.
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Post by FASH on Dec 4, 2018 19:32:02 GMT
Not so unexpected in some quarters. Way back in the piece, there was talk from Countries outside of the EU of more open access for people in return for half-decent trade deals. Which, in reality will need to be permitted, if tens of thousands of low-skilled vacancies are to be filled. Why? With 4.1% of the workforce currently unemployed wouldn't it be better for some of them to fill the low skilled positions before shipping in more workers?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 19:34:00 GMT
Even that vile vermin **** Farage appears to have chucked in the towel. Genuinely, what has he been up to since the start of this? I cannot recall seeing him crop up anywhere.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 19:34:59 GMT
No you fail to identify the real vermin. You're not alone, to be fair. Because you have this blinkered Labour/Tory Left/Right mindset, you continue to misunderstand and misrepresent just about everything. The real vermin is the electorate. Get it into your head once and for all. And the fecking rest of you. What does that mean?
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Post by Monkey Tennis on Dec 4, 2018 19:41:06 GMT
No you fail to identify the real vermin. You're not alone, to be fair. Because you have this blinkered Labour/Tory Left/Right mindset, you continue to misunderstand and misrepresent just about everything. The real vermin is the electorate. Get it into your head once and for all. And the fecking rest of you. Just about sums it up for me, too. Though I'd use the word "challenge" as opposed to "vermin". Edit; just un-highlighted an unnecessary highlight. He's still right though......
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