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Post by colebridgebull on May 28, 2017 7:57:19 GMT
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Post by singe on May 28, 2017 8:07:48 GMT
Now, that's an interesting find cb. We have a certain right wing Tory on here who adores Sir Alex Ferguson.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 8:09:00 GMT
"I believe Labour has always been the party of the working man......" says the multi-millionaire connoisseur of fine wine.
Seriously, cb, I think we all know that yer man from the Govan shipyards is a Labour supporter.
For anyone to portray him as anything else is unthinkable.
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Post by colebridgebull on May 28, 2017 8:32:01 GMT
Now, that's an interesting find cb. We have a certain right wing Tory on here who adores Sir Alex Ferguson. Really? Well what are the chances?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 8:39:44 GMT
Never mind all that, I'm watching Ms Abbott on the Marr programme.
Wonderful performance. 😄
In the interests of balance and fairness, Ms Rudd is up next.
I wait with baited breath.
Politicians? Pah.
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Post by colebridgebull on May 28, 2017 8:44:02 GMT
Wonder if Marr will ask her about tax avoidance.
That could be awkward.
(Just hope Abbott keeps away from the maths stuff. I understand that she studied it at Uni)
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Post by colebridgebull on May 28, 2017 8:47:46 GMT
And the thorny issue of meeting former IRA members remains a huge embarrassment of course.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 8:55:56 GMT
You're much better than that.
Big difference between "former" and "active".
The late McGuiness ultimately became a respected politician, accepted even by Paisley.
He wasn't so widely respected back in the day of visits by Corbyn to meet Adams et al at the height of the troubles. And I was a frequent visitor to the Province during those times.
Edit: The image you posted is almost certainly of a visit by Johnson when he was London Mayor to the factory in Northern Ireland that produces the "new" Routemaster London Bus. They are manufactured there.
I see little wrong with either the concept or the image, given that they indicate support for the "working man" (to quote Sir Alex) in Northern Ireland.
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Post by colebridgebull on May 28, 2017 9:05:39 GMT
"better than that"? I agree. But of course it is Johnson and his ilk (no doubt primed by the vile tax avoiding Crosby) who has attacked Corbyn for "meeting with the IRA".
Tell me this. How was the Irish issue ultimately resolved? By force or negotiation?
It was the latter. So. Why was Corbyn meeting the Republcans (because we should really try to keep this as sensible an argument as possible) such a bad thing?
The Tories were meeting them for many years privately and out of the public eye. It was the right thing to do. Corbyn had the courage of his convictions and did so more publically.
The rank hypocrisy of the Tories making this an issue shows how desperate they are getting.
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Post by singe on May 28, 2017 9:12:46 GMT
How about this one then?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 9:15:49 GMT
"better than that"? I agree. But of course it is Johnson and his ilk (no doubt primed by the vile tax avoiding Crosby) who has attacked Corbyn for "meeting with the IRA". Tell me this. How was the Irish issue ultimately resolved? By force or negotiation? It was the latter. So. Why was Corbyn meeting the Republcans (because we should really try to keep this as sensible an argument as possible) such a bad thing? The Tories were meeting them for many years privately and out of the public eye. It was the right thing to do. Corbyn had the courage of his convictions and did so more publically. The rank hypocrisy of the Tories making this an issue shows how desperate they are getting. Of course the issue was resolved through negotiation by all parties. Of course Corbyn played a role, along with others from across the political spectrum. Of course there are tax avoiders in politics and business, all as reprehensible in my eyes as in yours. I wasn't actually entering into an argument with you, just having what I believed was relatively light-hearted banter about serious enough issues. I see no reason why that concept should change in this instance. Finally, may I draw to your attention the edit to my previous post? Enjoy the rest of the Bank Holiday cb.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 9:20:41 GMT
I think the point about the IRA is that Jeremy Corbyn wants a united Ireland, he's said it on many occasions.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 9:22:32 GMT
Brexit may ultimately force that particular issue.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 9:24:23 GMT
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Post by colebridgebull on May 28, 2017 9:27:09 GMT
I think the point about the IRA is that Jeremy Corbyn wants a united Ireland, he's said it on many occasions. And that's a bad thing because...? Surely going forward, a strong and United Kingdom is in a far better position to cope with the challenges post Brexit (if it ever happens...)
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 9:28:48 GMT
There are those who seek to draw a comparison between The Troubles and Suicide bombings. I can't see any similarity, personally.
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Post by colebridgebull on May 28, 2017 9:28:54 GMT
Precisely. Time to move forward. Good work. Are we gradually "turning" you?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 9:32:31 GMT
I think the point about the IRA is that Jeremy Corbyn wants a united Ireland, he's said it on many occasions. And that's a bad thing because...? Surely going forward, a strong and United Kingdom is in a far better position to cope with the challenges post Brexit (if it ever happens...) Its a bad thing because Northern Ireland has a larger share of unionists. Everything has to be done to keep that border open in business terms but to suggest that you can unite Ireland and not have all our war breaking out again is utter madness. I almost find it worrying that you share so many of his views. I think most people are able to see that Corbyn's visions would lead to outright chaos in every area he touches.
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Post by singe on May 28, 2017 9:36:10 GMT
IF I was in the UK I'd definitely vote for him. He's far more mainstream than the UK press are leading gullible people to believe. The Labour manifesto is a really well thought out, fair document.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 9:53:34 GMT
IF I was in the UK I'd definitely vote for him. He's far more mainstream than the UK press are leading gullible people to believe. The Labour manifesto is a really well thought out, fair document. TBF, anything would look well thought out when the alternative is Theresa May shrieking 'strong and stable' at anybody within earshot. 'Demented and neurotic' might be a more accurate assessment.
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