General Election

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May 12, 2017 7:44:21 GMT colebridgebull said:

A manifesto that is strong stable and takes back control.

Surely a BREXITERS dream. Shoving it up the liberal elite, looking after the young in education and particularly the elderly. So perfect for Jammo AND excitable.

Not sure what the problem is.

There isn't one. THAT'S the problem. And is why the level of debate about the Labour campaign is so poor, and focused on Corbyn personally.

[FASH]

Corbyn is the man to make Brexit work by taking the country back from the unelected corporate policy makers and putting the British public first.

[FASH]

May 12, 2017 7:49:05 GMT Jonny Dangerous said:

May 12, 2017 7:44:21 GMT colebridgebull said:

A manifesto that is strong stable and takes back control.

Surely a BREXITERS dream. Shoving it up the liberal elite, looking after the young in education and particularly the elderly. So perfect for Jammo AND excitable.

Not sure what the problem is.

There isn't one. THAT'S the problem. And is why the level of debate about the Labour campaign is so poor, and focused on Corbyn personally.

If by “looney leftie” they mean a person who is committed to peace and justice and freedom then every rational human being is in the club!

[excitable]

They are all on here today. They must have stayed indoors so that the rain doesn't make the ink run on their absurd placards with stupid anarchistic slogans. Obviously have no important work to do un less they are, like me, retired.

P.S.. Also pass time by changing user names and avatars again. Little things please little minds.

[colebridgebull]

If you'd been paying attention instead of checking out cheeky Theresa and Phowwwwwr Phil on page 3 of the super soaraway Daily Heil, you'd have noticed that I'm in my way to Edinburgh today, so have a HUMUNGOUS amount of time to kill before the Murrayfield festivities kick off.
How' do you feel about all your tax and national insurance payments being diverted into the off shore bank accounts of the Right Wing Elite. Because you know that's what you're voting for. And don't forget to tug your forelock as you do so.

[excitable]

I don't follow your movements, don't read the Daily Mail and won't tug a forelock as there is very little left after tearing my hair out at the thought of Father Christmas, sorry Corbyn and his super give away

[changeabull]

May 12, 2017 7:44:21 GMT colebridgebull said:

A manifesto that is strong stable and takes back control.

Surely a BREXITERS dream. Shoving it up the liberal elite, looking after the young in education and particularly the elderly. So perfect for Jammo AND excitable.

Not sure what the problem is. To add to the fun it's apparently economic suicide.

That's numberwang

0.00001/10

You peaked with your "brexit won't happen" trolling posts. Should have retired then.

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The issue with Labour policy is that they actually believe their own figures will be a reality. They don't understand how it could be conceivable that people would pack their bags and leave if they get told to pay an absurd amount of tax. We've attracted a good many rich foreigners in this country the past few years but that could all change.

It was interesting to hear on the news the other night about how low paid migrant workers take more out that what they pay in. This certainly isn't the case for those on the highest tax band who came here to take advantage of more generous taxes. But we need these people and that is the whole idea of lower taxes to make this country more attractive for the wealthy.

Take the corporation tax cuts as well. Last year corporation tax receipts went up because the economy grew and more firms returned a profit so tax receipts increased. You go the other way and increase it and there is a possibility that Britain is less attractive to investors meaning less business is done so revenue could be lower.

So its laughable to suggest that these big spending plans can all be costed. Its not to say that I think the Conservatives will be bang on with everything but I do think these Labour policies are nowhere near to a reality. Their other policies would simply cost jobs. So I'm not really sure how that involves everyone being better off.

[Incognito]

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May 12, 2017 10:19:02 GMT Incognito said:

Why don't you enlighten us as to where your kids when to university then.

[Incognito]

Birmingham, Nottingham and Cranfield.

[eggchaserbull]

May 12, 2017 10:11:44 GMT @jammo said:

The issue with Labour policy is that they actually believe their own figures will be a reality. They don't understand how it could be conceivable that people would pack their bags and leave if they get told to pay an absurd amount of tax. We've attracted a good many rich foreigners in this country the past few years but that could all change.

It was interesting to hear on the news the other night about how low paid migrant workers take more out that what they pay in. This certainly isn't the case for those on the highest tax band who came here to take advantage of more generous taxes. But we need these people and that is the whole idea of lower taxes to make this country more attractive for the wealthy.

Take the corporation tax cuts as well. Last year corporation tax receipts went up because the economy grew and more firms returned a profit so tax receipts increased. You go the other way and increase it and there is a possibility that Britain is less attractive to investors meaning less business is done so revenue could be lower.

So its laughable to suggest that these big spending plans can all be costed. Its not to say that I think the Conservatives will be bang on with everything but I do think these Labour policies are nowhere near to a reality. Their other policies would simply cost jobs. So I'm not really sure how that involves everyone being better off.

Labour tends to tax more – true.

Labour tends to redistribute money to people with a propensity to consume, that money goes back into the economy leading to job creation and higher tax revenues.

The Tories tend to cut taxes – true.
Tories tend to cut taxes for the wealthy, people who are more likely to use that money to invest in property or lock it away in savings.

Therefore, Tory governments have a reduced income and need to borrow more.

The Tories are cutting money to local authorities and the public sector, where it is needed, and lowering taxes for wealthier people. They’ve given the banks cheap money, so they aren’t lending, and we have a housing shortage. How is this policy going to help our economy?

The Tories claim that there have never been more people in employment than now; this may be true, but how many of those are on zero hours contracts?

People who think the Tories are the party for the economy are deluding themselves; they are the party for the economy of the elite.

[colebridgebull]

May 12, 2017 10:27:14 GMT @jammo said:

May 12, 2017 10:19:02 GMT Incognito said:

Why don't you enlighten us as to where your kids when to university then.

I've got one at Oxford if that helps boost my tiny bit of credibility...

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May 12, 2017 10:51:30 GMT eggchaserbull said:

May 12, 2017 10:11:44 GMT @jammo said:

The issue with Labour policy is that they actually believe their own figures will be a reality. They don't understand how it could be conceivable that people would pack their bags and leave if they get told to pay an absurd amount of tax. We've attracted a good many rich foreigners in this country the past few years but that could all change.

It was interesting to hear on the news the other night about how low paid migrant workers take more out that what they pay in. This certainly isn't the case for those on the highest tax band who came here to take advantage of more generous taxes. But we need these people and that is the whole idea of lower taxes to make this country more attractive for the wealthy.

Take the corporation tax cuts as well. Last year corporation tax receipts went up because the economy grew and more firms returned a profit so tax receipts increased. You go the other way and increase it and there is a possibility that Britain is less attractive to investors meaning less business is done so revenue could be lower.

So its laughable to suggest that these big spending plans can all be costed. Its not to say that I think the Conservatives will be bang on with everything but I do think these Labour policies are nowhere near to a reality. Their other policies would simply cost jobs. So I'm not really sure how that involves everyone being better off.

Labour tends to tax more – true.

Labour tends to redistribute money to people with a propensity to consume, that money goes back into the economy leading to job creation and higher tax revenues.

The Tories tend to cut taxes – true.
Tories tend to cut taxes for the wealthy, people who are more likely to use that money to invest in property or lock it away in savings.

Therefore, Tory governments have a reduced income and need to borrow more.

The Tories are cutting money to local authorities and the public sector, where it is needed, and lowering taxes for wealthier people. They’ve given the banks cheap money, so they aren’t lending, and we have a housing shortage. How is this policy going to help our economy?

The Tories claim that there have never been more people in employment than now; this may be true, but how many of those are on zero hours contracts?

People who think the Tories are the party for the economy are deluding themselves; they are the party for the economy of the elite.

I don't think so. They've increase the minimum wage and the tax bands for the lowest paid in this country meaning a good many pay no income tax whatsoever. Most people who are in work are now much better off. The benefits system pre 2010 really was a shambles and almost discouraged people from looking for a job.

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May 12, 2017 11:01:44 GMT colebridgebull said:

May 12, 2017 10:27:14 GMT @jammo said:

Why don't you enlighten us as to where your kids when to university then.

I've got one at Oxford if that helps boost my tiny bit of credibility...

I'd say Gloucester just about evens it out. But don't worry, I promise I wont tell singe.

[changeabull]

May 12, 2017 10:51:30 GMT eggchaserbull said:

May 12, 2017 10:11:44 GMT @jammo said:

The issue with Labour policy is that they actually believe their own figures will be a reality. They don't understand how it could be conceivable that people would pack their bags and leave if they get told to pay an absurd amount of tax. We've attracted a good many rich foreigners in this country the past few years but that could all change.

It was interesting to hear on the news the other night about how low paid migrant workers take more out that what they pay in. This certainly isn't the case for those on the highest tax band who came here to take advantage of more generous taxes. But we need these people and that is the whole idea of lower taxes to make this country more attractive for the wealthy.

Take the corporation tax cuts as well. Last year corporation tax receipts went up because the economy grew and more firms returned a profit so tax receipts increased. You go the other way and increase it and there is a possibility that Britain is less attractive to investors meaning less business is done so revenue could be lower.

So its laughable to suggest that these big spending plans can all be costed. Its not to say that I think the Conservatives will be bang on with everything but I do think these Labour policies are nowhere near to a reality. Their other policies would simply cost jobs. So I'm not really sure how that involves everyone being better off.

Labour tends to tax more – true.

Labour tends to redistribute money to people with a propensity to consume, that money goes back into the economy leading to job creation and higher tax revenues.

The Tories tend to cut taxes – true.
Tories tend to cut taxes for the wealthy, people who are more likely to use that money to invest in property or lock it away in savings.

Therefore, Tory governments have a reduced income and need to borrow more.

The Tories are cutting money to local authorities and the public sector, where it is needed, and lowering taxes for wealthier people. They’ve given the banks cheap money, so they aren’t lending, and we have a housing shortage. How is this policy going to help our economy?

The Tories claim that there have never been more people in employment than now; this may be true, but how many of those are on zero hours contracts?

People who think the Tories are the party for the economy are deluding themselves; they are the party for the economy of the elite.

So what you're basically saying is that people in work should be forced to pay much higher taxes and the income raised should be given to people on the dole?

I don't think you understand how society works. The rewards should be given to those who work the hardest not those who sit on their backsides at home thinking the world owes them a living.

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May 12, 2017 11:55:36 GMT changeabull said:

May 12, 2017 10:51:30 GMT eggchaserbull said:

Labour tends to tax more – true.

Labour tends to redistribute money to people with a propensity to consume, that money goes back into the economy leading to job creation and higher tax revenues.

The Tories tend to cut taxes – true.
Tories tend to cut taxes for the wealthy, people who are more likely to use that money to invest in property or lock it away in savings.

Therefore, Tory governments have a reduced income and need to borrow more.

The Tories are cutting money to local authorities and the public sector, where it is needed, and lowering taxes for wealthier people. They’ve given the banks cheap money, so they aren’t lending, and we have a housing shortage. How is this policy going to help our economy?

The Tories claim that there have never been more people in employment than now; this may be true, but how many of those are on zero hours contracts?

People who think the Tories are the party for the economy are deluding themselves; they are the party for the economy of the elite.

So what you're basically saying is that people in work should be forced to pay much higher taxes and the income raised should be given to people on the dole?

I don't think you understand how society works. The rewards should be given to those who work the hardest not those who sit on their backsides at home thinking the world owes them a living.

But they bring in so much revenue through tourism!

[monmouthbull]

I see Jezza's leaked manifesto promises to cap high earner's pay at 20 times what a company's lowest-paid staffer pulls in. So either Man U will have to start paying the cleaning staff five grand a week, or we'll be kissing goodbye to Premier League football. Happy days.

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Tories tend to cut taxes for the wealthy, people who are more likely to use that money to invest in property or lock it away in savings the Cayman Islands..

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May 12, 2017 12:40:55 GMT @corfubulls said:

Tories tend to cut taxes for the wealthy, people who are more likely to use that money to invest in property or lock it away in savings the Cayman Islands..

What about them increasing the personal allowance then?