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Post by BullRush on Aug 19, 2015 12:25:43 GMT
The football is paramount. My tune has never changed. We are losing again... PB keeps blaming the state of the pitch - same for both sides chum get used to it - what would you have done/say/do Wain old chap? You don't quite get football and how a pitch can impact one side more than the other, do you? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 12:37:25 GMT
The football is paramount. My tune has never changed. We are losing again... PB keeps blaming the state of the pitch - same for both sides chum get used to it - what would you have done/say/do Wain old chap? I actually thought Mr Beadle gave a very measured and honest response to the Stourport reverse. He said we were outplayed before the penalty and 10 men, as well as after. He was correct.
I posted on the old forum two or three months ago that I would not have been saturating the team with old faces. There are increase expectations on players who previously represented Hereford United. I have seen nothing to change my mind on that front.
Midfield is where the biggest problem lies. (I didn't go to Highgate). There is urgent need for an enforcer in that department. I applaud the investment in Mills and Heysham, but we've got to get the ball to Mills especially a bit more often.
For the second Stourport goal, our left back, Mr Edwards ushered the forward on to his favoured left foot into the area where he was able to us it to shape the ball around the 'keeper. Cheers! Mr Purdie's best position is left back. He can still take free kicks if he likes.
You asked for my opinion. There you go...
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Post by nailswortholdbull on Aug 19, 2015 13:08:29 GMT
you can have all the fancy corporate stuff and nice clean ground but when it comes down to it ,what happens on the pitch is what matters!!! will be interesting to see the gate at the next home game. Probably not. Next home game is a Tuesday nighter, and the attendance is, historically, always less for midweek stuff............. |
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Post by sortitoutwebbbull on Aug 19, 2015 13:27:15 GMT
PB keeps blaming the state of the pitch - same for both sides chum get used to it - what would you have done/say/do Wain old chap? You don't quite get football and how a pitch can impact one side more than the other, do you? Ha - of course I do. You see Bullrush, it's the same for both sides - there will be many more pitches like this to play on this season. PB needs to get practising on Woolhopes pitch for example to get used to the conditions - it is not something that is going to go away - as I said he/ the squad need to get used to this - I knew it would be like this, I suspect most people did, but somehow it seems like he didn't which is a bit worrying - grind out results, mix it up with the oppo - stop moaning, and get on with it |
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Post by BullRush on Aug 19, 2015 13:37:56 GMT
You don't quite get football and how a pitch can impact one side more than the other, do you? Ha - of course I do. You see Bullrush, it's the same for both sides - there will be many more pitches like this to play on this season. PB needs to get practising on Woolhopes pitch for example to get used to the conditions - it is not something that is going to go away - as I said he/ the squad need to get used to this - I knew it would be like this, I suspect most people did, but somehow it seems like he didn't which is a bit worrying - grind out results, mix it up with the oppo - stop moaning, and get on with it I do agree, to an extent, that PB and the lads may benefit from training on surfaces that are less than ideal however I still argue that a team familiar with a certain pitch will more often than not do better on it than a team unfamiliar. It's only natural. It's interesting that you cite Woolhope as an example, having spent many a Sunday playing on the Berryfield pitch (I suspect you may well know that hence your use of it as an example) I can accept that it is quite a unique pitch and can offer questionable bounce etc from time to time. I'll counter your argument somewhat though - I also play for Fownhope, who's pitch is also quite unique in the respect that it has a slight slope and uneven level across the pitch. As a side we are by no means title contenders nor are we relegation candidates but if you get the chance, take a look at the number of times we have been beaten at home in recent years as opposed to away. You see, we have had a settled side now for 3 or 4 seasons which has grown accustomed to the pitch and it's peculiar contours similar to how Highgate's players are very familiar to the alleged "cabbage patch" pitch they play on. It really does make quite a difference. |
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Post by wrongguyguv on Aug 19, 2015 14:46:56 GMT
The football is paramount. My tune has never changed. We are losing again... You are right. the football under Turner kept the snipers at bay. The football under Keyte was crap and ultimately did for him. this new club really needs to come through now and get to grips with the level of football at which we start again. It is not very good on the eye so a few goals are needed to keep the recent fairweathers on board. |
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Post by sortitoutwebbbull on Aug 19, 2015 14:47:27 GMT
Ha - of course I do. You see Bullrush, it's the same for both sides - there will be many more pitches like this to play on this season. PB needs to get practising on Woolhopes pitch for example to get used to the conditions - it is not something that is going to go away - as I said he/ the squad need to get used to this - I knew it would be like this, I suspect most people did, but somehow it seems like he didn't which is a bit worrying - grind out results, mix it up with the oppo - stop moaning, and get on with it I do agree, to an extent, that PB and the lads may benefit from training on surfaces that are less than ideal however I still argue that a team familiar with a certain pitch will more often than not do better on it than a team unfamiliar. It's only natural. It's interesting that you cite Woolhope as an example, having spent many a Sunday playing on the Berryfield pitch (I suspect you may well know that hence your use of it as an example) I can accept that it is quite a unique pitch and can offer questionable bounce etc from time to time. I'll counter your argument somewhat though - I also play for Fownhope, who's pitch is also quite unique in the respect that it has a slight slope and uneven level across the pitch. As a side we are by no means title contenders nor are we relegation candidates but if you get the chance, take a look at the number of times we have been beaten at home in recent years as opposed to away. You see, we have had a settled side now for 3 or 4 seasons which has grown accustomed to the pitch and it's peculiar contours similar to how Highgate's players are very familiar to the alleged "cabbage patch" pitch they play on. It really does make quite a difference. I don't disagree with you - What I am trying to say is that the state of the pitch should not be used as an excuse and besides you are an amateur side presumably NOT looking for excuses - PB needs to get on with, roll up his sleeves and start getting results - it's the same for all sides in this league |
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Post by eggchaserbull on Aug 19, 2015 14:54:46 GMT
I think they've been doing the day job stuff. We're tinpot now, remember? and galvanise his players? I think it is up to the other teams in the WML to carry out their own ground maintenance, I think PB has enough to do without turning up an hour early, at an away game, with a Flymo.
Also, at this level there is no need to galvanise players, as most are non contract players and move on before the rust shows.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 15:13:28 GMT
The football is paramount. My tune has never changed. We are losing again... You are right. the football under Turner kept the snipers at bay. The football under Keyte was crap and ultimately did for him.this new club really needs to come through now and get to grips with the level of football at which we start again. It is not very good on the eye so a few goals are needed to keep the recent fairweathers on board. Blimey. New forum. New broom. Never thought I'd see somebody else actually write that. There are none so blind that cannot see it. Be careful agreeing with me, mind.
Still haven't had my friend request confirmed by Andrew Munsley? He/she could learn a lot...
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Post by eggchaserbull on Aug 19, 2015 15:21:56 GMT
You are right. the football under Turner kept the snipers at bay. The football under Keyte was crap and ultimately did for him.this new club really needs to come through now and get to grips with the level of football at which we start again. It is not very good on the eye so a few goals are needed to keep the recent fairweathers on board. Blimey. New forum. New broom. Never thought I'd see somebody else actually write that. There are none so blind that cannot see it. Be careful agreeing with me, mind.
Still haven't had my friend request confirmed by Andrew Munsley? He/she could learn a lot...
And........you're back in the room.
As soon as you were banned we were all in agreement with you. Mind you, we didn't think we'd have to pay any more attention to you. 
Good to have you back, Wain.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 15:38:32 GMT
As soon as I say "It's Good to be Back",
I'll be accused of Gary Glitteresque tendencies.
So I won't.
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Post by wrongguyguv on Aug 20, 2015 11:20:17 GMT
Wainwrong, were you in the VP Club set up at all? Wondering what the word was in there. Apparently our new club was born from there where the members felt Turner never included them and then Keyte was not very discreet in his views that George Webb, Chair of the VP committee was a complete waste of space. Blandford was in there too of course though he batted both ways in that he also joined the Board at some away matches.
All the protagonists, and now our new leaders, were in the VP set up. Hale, Williams, Webb, Watson. They became HUST but only used the membership it seems to get the groundswell going.
I wonder if Watson actually knew that Hale and Williams had already opened the new Hereford FC company when he was busy on the radio telling the world that it would be a fans-owned club.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 11:35:14 GMT
Wainwrong, were you in the VP Club set up at all? Wondering what the word was in there. Apparently our new club was born from there where the members felt Turner never included them and then Keyte was not very discreet in his views that George Webb, Chair of the VP committee was a complete waste of space. Blandford was in there too of course though he batted both ways in that he also joined the Board at some away matches. All the protagonists, and now our new leaders, were in the VP set up. Hale, Williams, Webb, Watson. They became HUST but only used the membership it seems to get the groundswell going. I wonder if Watson actually knew that Hale and Williams had already opened the new Hereford FC company when he was busy on the radio telling the world that it would be a fans-owned club. I would be very surprised if he didn't !! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 15:20:06 GMT
Wainwrong, were you in the VP Club set up at all? Wondering what the word was in there. Apparently our new club was born from there where the members felt Turner never included them and then Keyte was not very discreet in his views that George Webb, Chair of the VP committee was a complete waste of space. Blandford was in there too of course though he batted both ways in that he also joined the Board at some away matches. All the protagonists, and now our new leaders, were in the VP set up. Hale, Williams, Webb, Watson. They became HUST but only used the membership it seems to get the groundswell going. I wonder if Watson actually knew that Hale and Williams had already opened the new Hereford FC company when he was busy on the radio telling the world that it would be a fans-owned club. My days in the VP club were, broadly speaking, 1989 till 2001. That era was spent in the basement section of the Football League, and included relegation, of course, to the Conference in 1997. In truth, that slightly pre-dates the maelstrom of ill-feeling which contributed to the demise of Hereford United. Certainly Mr Watson, Mr Blandford, Mr Williams and Mr Hale were members of the VP Club for some, if not all of the years mentioned above. I hasten to point out that they were not close associates of mine - so I do not profess to know what they were thinking in those days. (I tend to move in much humbler circles).
The only observation I would make from a much more recent time - September 2014 - is that I am confident that there was plenty of antipathy from Mr Keyte towards at least three of the above mentioned VP members.
That is all that I KNOW.
I do not remember Mr Webb. Apparently I was his cricket captain one day. Sadly, I can't recall that either.
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Post by sortitoutwebbbull on Aug 20, 2015 16:16:27 GMT
Wainwrong, were you in the VP Club set up at all? Wondering what the word was in there. Apparently our new club was born from there where the members felt Turner never included them and then Keyte was not very discreet in his views that George Webb, Chair of the VP committee was a complete waste of space. Blandford was in there too of course though he batted both ways in that he also joined the Board at some away matches. All the protagonists, and now our new leaders, were in the VP set up. Hale, Williams, Webb, Watson. They became HUST but only used the membership it seems to get the groundswell going. I wonder if Watson actually knew that Hale and Williams had already opened the new Hereford FC company when he was busy on the radio telling the world that it would be a fans-owned club. My days in the VP club were, broadly speaking, 1989 till 2001. That era was spent in the basement section of the Football League, and included relegation, of course, to the Conference in 1997. In truth, that slightly pre-dates the maelstrom of ill-feeling which contributed to the demise of Hereford United. Certainly Mr Watson, Mr Blandford, Mr Williams and Mr Hale were members of the VP Club for some, if not all of the years mentioned above. I hasten to point out that they were not close associates of mine - so I do not profess to know what they were thinking in those days. (I tend to move in much humbler circles).
The only observation I would make from a much more recent time - September 2014 - is that I am confident that there was plenty of antipathy from Mr Keyte towards at least three of the above mentioned VP members.
That is all that I KNOW.
I do not remember Mr Webb. Apparently I was his cricket captain one day. Sadly, I can't recall that either.
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Post by luke on Aug 20, 2015 18:02:14 GMT
As soon as I say "It's Good to be Back", I'll be accused of Gary Glitteresque tendencies. So I won't. Careful or we'll have a suspected second case of mistaken identity this week... |
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Post by BullRush on Aug 20, 2015 20:44:41 GMT
My days in the VP club were, broadly speaking, 1989 till 2001. That era was spent in the basement section of the Football League, and included relegation, of course, to the Conference in 1997. In truth, that slightly pre-dates the maelstrom of ill-feeling which contributed to the demise of Hereford United. Certainly Mr Watson, Mr Blandford, Mr Williams and Mr Hale were members of the VP Club for some, if not all of the years mentioned above. I hasten to point out that they were not close associates of mine - so I do not profess to know what they were thinking in those days. (I tend to move in much humbler circles).
The only observation I would make from a much more recent time - September 2014 - is that I am confident that there was plenty of antipathy from Mr Keyte towards at least three of the above mentioned VP members.
That is all that I KNOW.
I do not remember Mr Webb. Apparently I was his cricket captain one day. Sadly, I can't recall that either.
Ahhhh talk of Mr Webb.................. Go on... |
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