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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2023 12:51:25 GMT
Well anyway, Sunak (or a spokesman on his behalf, I can't recall) said that "now isn't the time for a ceasefire".
When isn't a good time for a ceasefire? Surely all the time is actually a good time for a ceasefire?
Considering he said this after Hamas mentioned a potential 'hostages for ceasefire' deal, I think it's even more idiotic. Or determined, depending on how you look at it.
Yougov poll suggests that a whopping total of 8% of people agree with with Sunak on this.
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Post by bringbackelmo on Oct 20, 2023 12:56:41 GMT
Sunak is a spectacularly useless politician, arguably the worst PM we've ever had (and I include Truss in that).
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Post by Gulliver on Oct 20, 2023 14:06:19 GMT
Sunak is a spectacularly useless politician, arguably the worst PM we've ever had (and I include Truss in that). Worse than Blair and his lies about Iraq's 'weapons of mass destruction'? You have to be kidding!
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Post by GRL on Oct 20, 2023 14:06:44 GMT
I'll add a little to this as I have a personal perspective and connection to Palestine. My wife has good friends in both Gaza and the West Bank. Her friends in Gaza lived in Gaza City. As per the Israeli instruction they left their home behind and moved to the south for their own "safety". Two days later, a neighbouring building in the "safe" zone was hit by an Israeli airstrike killing three and blowing out the windows in their own place of supposed safety. One of her friends has been routinely harassed by Hamas for working for western aid agencies. He, like many in Gaza, is far, far from a fan of Hamas. Tell me, does he deserve having his life, which was already extremely difficult, made worse in this way? Does he need to see his neighbours killed because of the actions of militants that he hates? Even before this latest escalation he has survived multiple Israeli bombings on Gaza. He cannot leave Gaza (basically no-one can, or could). The human cost is indescribable, I'm seeing picture of dead babies being cradled by their parents, shell-shocked children shivering in fear, husbands gripping the bodies of their dead wives, doctors collapsing when they realise the victims brought to them are members of their own families. These are real people, this is not an abstract situation where Israel can just drop a few bombs and everything will be sorted. And just for the avoidance of doubt, Israel does not give a flying Feck about whether civilians are hit. They are mere collateral damage.Which is precisely the comparison made by Mr Luckhurst between Britain 80 years ago and Israel now. I hope your associates come through this terrible situation.
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Post by GRL on Oct 20, 2023 14:11:39 GMT
I don't think Sunak will slavishly follow Biden in the manner which Blair followed Bush and spend the rest of his life trying to justify it.
It is, after all, quite an indictment of the USA that they have appointed a President who is under a misapprehension that he's Irish.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2023 14:39:27 GMT
I don't think we are relevant enough anymore for Biden to be too worried what Sunak thinks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2023 14:50:09 GMT
It will be different when Caddis is PM.
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Post by Andrew on Oct 20, 2023 15:31:31 GMT
A fat lot of good it did I miss HUFC
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Post by psychedelictony on Oct 20, 2023 19:21:23 GMT
A fat lot of good it did I miss HUFC FFS he did what he could. He had no interest in Hereford United.
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