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Post by eggchaserbull on Apr 20, 2023 15:17:26 GMT
I see the sentence is to be a deterrent to others.
In a country where scrotes are given discharges for assaulting women by beating, and community sentences for assaulting police officers, and fines for killing kids whilst driving without due care and attention.
Hmm!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2023 15:47:02 GMT
I see the sentence is to be a deterrent to others. In a country where scrotes are given discharges for assaulting women by beating, and community sentences for assaulting police officers, and fines for killing kids whilst driving without due care and attention. Hmm! I think not living near a river is a deterrent to most people. It does seem harsh without knowing too much about the case. There are so many worse environmental crimes that are fully endorsed by the people in charge.
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Post by Incognito on Apr 20, 2023 16:04:40 GMT
the River Lugg Drainage Board used to do it most years to prevent flooding. And it worked.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2023 16:17:17 GMT
the River Lugg Drainage Board used to do it most years to prevent flooding. And it worked. You know if you go to a Christmas doo at a big venue and share it with other companies, that is the sort of random company name the MC shouts out when doing the cheery roll call. There is always a double glazing company.
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Post by sortitoutwebbbull on Apr 20, 2023 16:22:22 GMT
I see the sentence is to be a deterrent to others. In a country where scrotes are given discharges for assaulting women by beating, and community sentences for assaulting police officers, and fines for killing kids whilst driving without due care and attention. Hmm! So what you are really saying its that it doesn't really matter what you do to a site of special scientific interest? Did you know that the Lugg was home to six protected and endangered species, including common otter, Atlantic salmon, white clawed crayfish, brook lamprey, shad and bullhead? In court the Lugg was described as one of the best rivers in the UK for salmon and that it supported many rare water beetle and crane fly species. Also at the same time, 71 mature trees were completely uprooted, and 24 trees felled, with native vegetation and nesting sites destroyed. For info, he had been warned about this previously but chose to ignore all the warnings.............................just saying like
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Post by Hawkeye on Apr 20, 2023 17:24:38 GMT
the River Lugg Drainage Board used to do it most years to prevent flooding. And it worked. The clue is in the name. I imagine the LDB would only have acted within agreed and mandated guidelines.
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Post by mikeunderpenyard on Apr 20, 2023 17:48:34 GMT
If this was a one off, I'd agree the sentence was harsh, the fact he's a serial offender who's arrogance shows no bounds suggests to me the punishment is apt.
I think it 'will' act as a deterrent against these types of criminal acts.
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Post by Monkey Tennis on Apr 20, 2023 18:53:49 GMT
If this was a one off, I'd agree the sentence was harsh, the fact he's a serial offender who's arrogance shows no bounds suggests to me the punishment is apt. I think it 'will' act as a deterrent against these types of criminal acts. I agree. On the face of it the sentence seems harsh but if you delve a little further... The sentence can't be compared to those imposed on other offenders for different offences however heinous, because they are different offences. He had been warned.
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Post by GRL on Apr 20, 2023 19:16:07 GMT
the River Lugg Drainage Board used to do it most years to prevent flooding. And it worked. STOKE PRIOR Trees and boats and plains. THE Lugg used to be larger than its tributary, the River Wye. At the end of the Ice Age, the Teme, swollen with water from melting ice, joined the Lugg. It formed one mighty river flowing down the centre of what was to become Herefordshire and carved out the great wide valley that we see today. Later moraines blocked the outlet of the Teme and forced it to flow east to join the Severn leaving the wide valley, underlain by sheets of gravel, to be occupied by the now much smaller Lugg. Three-quarters of the river flows though Herefordshire and its catchment area occupies half the county. Information about cargoes carried down the years is sketchy; the mainstays were timber, cider, malt, hops, wool, corn and oak bark for tanning - a major export from Chepstow from about 1850. The Lugg’s most famous boat cargo was the bells of Leominster Priory in 1756. These were taken down to the Wye and on to Chepstow to be recast and returned by the same route. Our family walk this month is a gentle one from Stoke Prior on the Lugg’s left bank. After a very modest climb commanding most surprising views to the Welsh hills, we reach 14th century timber-framed Eaton Hall, now a farmhouse. The house was built by the Hackluyt family. William Hackluyt fought for King Henry V in the Battle of Agincourt and took a French nobleman called St George. Just beyond the farmyard is a delightful seventeenth century stone bridge (at point 4) which gives access across the Lugg to the water meadows. Once through the Millennium gate we follow a stretch of river which, despite the proximity of Leominster by-pass, is still rich in wildlife. There’s a chance if you walk stealthily enough along the bank to spot a kingfisher swooping from its riverside perch; and local anglers have reported early morning sightings of the otter.(Acknowledgment to Pete Blench: Walking Out From Leominster). About fifty yards in from the riverbank, there’s a true English Black Poplar. With down-arching branches covered in gnarled bosses, it’s a rare tree. In fact, according to the Forestry Commission, it is the most endangered native timber tree in Britain. It usually grows in isolation in boggy ground such as in wet woodland or on flood plains. Mature trees grow to 30m,commonly live for 200 years, and sometimes last for 225. Black poplar wood is fine textured, soft and almost white in colour. It is resistant to shock, and traditional uses therefore included carts, floorboards and clogs. It was also used to make matches. Today, black poplar timber is used to make artificial limbs, wine cases, pallets, shelving and toys. Our fine specimen by the Lugg is both isolated and on the flood plain. But be careful, for it is said that fallen red male catkins are the Devil's fingers, and bring you bad luck if you decide to pick them up. Volca bridge is at point 5 after we have walked along the riverside for about a mile. The bridge was probably built to replace a ford which would have been drowned out when a lock was built a little lower on the river. It provided the inhabitants of Stoke Prior with the means to cross from the left bank to their Lammas Meadows on the right. “Volca” derives from the earlier name for a common Lammas meadow “Folkehey”, or meadow of the people. The floodplain here, at the confluence of the Arrow and the Lugg, is bounded on nearly three sides by the rivers which overflow their banks on a regular basis. If we have resisted the temptation to put some catkins in our pocket, we may well catch a glimpse of hares in the vicinity of the bridge, as well as the kingfisher and the otter. Stoke Prior and the Lugg. Village, country lane, easily attained views, riverside, wildlife and a rare tree. An easy 3 mile walk. Up to 10 stiles.
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Post by eggchaserbull on Apr 21, 2023 11:39:25 GMT
I see the sentence is to be a deterrent to others. In a country where scrotes are given discharges for assaulting women by beating, and community sentences for assaulting police officers, and fines for killing kids whilst driving without due care and attention. Hmm! So what you are really saying its that it doesn't really matter what you do to a site of special scientific interest? Did you know that the Lugg was home to six protected and endangered species, including common otter, Atlantic salmon, white clawed crayfish, brook lamprey, shad and bullhead? In court the Lugg was described as one of the best rivers in the UK for salmon and that it supported many rare water beetle and crane fly species. Also at the same time, 71 mature trees were completely uprooted, and 24 trees felled, with native vegetation and nesting sites destroyed. For info, he had been warned about this previously but chose to ignore all the warnings.............................just saying like Please don't assume that you have the right to make up the subtext of my post. The post was in no way intended as a trivialisation of the damage done to the river. My post was a comment on other criminal offences, often against the person, where the penalties given suggest that the magistrates/judges consider these offences to be lesser than those commited against the establishment, commerce in particular. Oh, and also where the government has given guidelines not to jail people because the prisons are full (probably with pensioners not paying their council tax). As for water course damage, part of my working life involved mitigating against this, so yes, I am aware of some of your environmental references. Just saying like.
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Post by sortitoutwebbbull on Apr 21, 2023 13:45:06 GMT
So what you are really saying its that it doesn't really matter what you do to a site of special scientific interest? Did you know that the Lugg was home to six protected and endangered species, including common otter, Atlantic salmon, white clawed crayfish, brook lamprey, shad and bullhead? In court the Lugg was described as one of the best rivers in the UK for salmon and that it supported many rare water beetle and crane fly species. Also at the same time, 71 mature trees were completely uprooted, and 24 trees felled, with native vegetation and nesting sites destroyed. For info, he had been warned about this previously but chose to ignore all the warnings.............................just saying like Please don't assume that you have the right to make up the subtext of my post. 1) The post was in no way intended as a trivialisation of the damage done to the river. My post was a comment on other criminal offences, often against the person, where the penalties given suggest that the magistrates/judges consider these offences to be lesser than those commited against the establishment, commerce in particular. Oh, and also where the government has given guidelines not to jail people because the prisons are full (probably with pensioners not paying their council tax). As for water course damage, part of my working life involved mitigating against this, so yes, 2)I am aware of some of your environmental references.3) Just saying like.1) I'm really pleased to hear that and.............2) Excellent 3)chuckle chuckle
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2023 3:28:02 GMT
That sentence isn't harsh at all.
The man is lucky to be alive!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2023 9:19:22 GMT
I just find it mad that people who either have no care or understanding of these type of areas are allowed to own them. There should be some kind of vetting process. The government should issue compulsory purchase orders on these types of places and remove these people, if necessary. It's like that guy who bulldozed one of the Priddy Circles. I just don't understand what goes through a person's mind when they're doing this stuff. Not a lot, I should imagine.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2023 9:43:18 GMT
I just find it mad that people who either have no care or understanding of these type of areas are allowed to own them. There should be some kind of vetting process. The government should issue compulsory purchase orders on these types of places and remove these people, if necessary. It's like that guy who bulldozed one of the Priddy Circles. I just don't understand what goes through a person's mind when they're doing this stuff. Not a lot, I should imagine. Meandering away from that slightly, but speaking of vetting processes my mate has just lost his beloved moggy. 23 it got to. Impressive. Anyway we know they want a dog so we started talking about that and they had already looked into it. Looked at the old rescue dog option. He said the main items on the tick box list were, don't live near a main road, don't have kids, someone needs to be around all day and then finally ideally you would have another dog. Not sure how strict they are about all that, but they failed all of them. They have a great house and garden for a woofer and live right on the edge of town for walks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2023 10:19:42 GMT
Yeah, I contemplated a rescue dog last year as I seem to be a home for most of my life nowadays. I gave up after the neverending list of things you need.
I completely understand that most of these dogs need a solid and reliable new home but I'm surprised they managed to re-home any of them such are the demands!
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Post by GRL on May 23, 2023 7:18:37 GMT
Wye Valley. Ales Offending Nature (like) Butty.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2023 8:56:38 GMT
Malvern Hills Another out-of-this-world nearby brewery.
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